Anti-Semitic shooting in KS

[Sam_2.0]

Happened over the weekend near us. Grandfather & grandson killed, and occupational therapist visiting her mom was killed.
www.kansascity.com/2014/04/13/4957486/one-reported-dead-in-shooting.html

Sometimes people really suck. Especially this guy www.kshb.com/news/crime/frazier-glenn-miller-suspect-in-deadly-shootings-ran-radio-ads-for-10-senate-campaign

[mmhmm]

Haters gotta hate, I guess.  My condolences to those who lost family members and friends to this particular hater.

[Tennesseer]

The SPLC called this guy a sicko hater years ago.

Frazier Glenn Miller

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Scary. My wife works at a JCC and my youngest goes to daycare there.

[EVT1]

      But, in 1987, while still out on bond, Miller disappeared and went underground. He mailed a "Declaration of War" to supporters, exhorting “Aryan warriors of The Order” to kill “our enemies,” and established a point system for each kill. The targets were: “n_____s (1), White race traitors (10), Jews (10), Judges (50) Morris Seligman Dees (888).” He signed the statement “Glenn Miller, loyal member of ‘The Order.’”

     The FBI caught up with Miller and four other Klansmen in Springfield, Mo., where he was tear-gassed out of a mobile home. Authorities found hand grenades, automatic weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition, the explosive C-4, and $14,000 in cash. He and the others were indicted for conspiracy to acquire stolen military weapons, explosives and equipment, and for planning robberies and the assassination of Dees. Miller pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and to sending a threat through the mail. He served three years in federal prison, mostly in Otisville, N.Y. As part of his plea deal, he agreed to testify against 14 leading white supremacists in a sedition trial.


3 years huh- and some people do more time for weed.......Way to drop the ball.

[sesfw]

I just don't understand anyone hating this much.

[djAdvocate]

what a pig.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

The irony of it all was that none that he shot and killed were Jewish.

i wonder if it can still be called a hate crime?

[Tennesseer]

Apr 15, 2014 9:49:41 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

The irony of it all was that none that he shot and killed were Jewish.

i wonder if it can still be called a hate crime?

The shooter did not know they were not Jewish.  His alleged intent was to shoot and kill Jews.  What the victims were or were not ìs secondary.  It is the intent of the perpetrator which defines a hate crime.

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Apr 14, 2014 15:57:27 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

      But, in 1987, while still out on bond, Miller disappeared and went underground. He mailed a "Declaration of War" to supporters, exhorting “Aryan warriors of The Order” to kill “our enemies,” and established a point system for each kill. The targets were: “n_____s (1), White race traitors (10), Jews (10), Judges (50) Morris Seligman Dees (888).” He signed the statement “Glenn Miller, loyal member of ‘The Order.’”

     The FBI caught up with Miller and four other Klansmen in Springfield, Mo., where he was tear-gassed out of a mobile home. Authorities found hand grenades, automatic weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition, the explosive C-4, and $14,000 in cash. He and the others were indicted for conspiracy to acquire stolen military weapons, explosives and equipment, and for planning robberies and the assassination of Dees. Miller pleaded guilty to a weapons charge and to sending a threat through the mail. He served three years in federal prison, mostly in Otisville, N.Y. As part of his plea deal, he agreed to testify against 14 leading white supremacists in a sedition trial.


3 years huh- and some people do more time for weed.......Way to drop the ball.

Not defending the guy, but he was "offered" a plea deal and was working within the judicial system parameters. I don't consider the effort to get 14 other convictions of similar types as a dropping the ball situation. A prosecutor has no way of knowing what these types are capable of at some time in the future. Getting 14 for 1 would seem like a good opportunity at the time, all considered.

[EVT1]

Amassing weapons, having a kill list, conspiracy to commit murder is a good indication he might be a risk in the future- but being a rat has its advantages I guess.