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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 14:27:30 GMT -5
Today's chapter: MIL announced today to DH that she's going to adopt a Corgi rescue to replace the 12 old dog that died a few months ago.
Never mind that she really can't handle the existing 12 and 10 year old dogs.
When DH visited her two weeks ago her SIL let DH know that MIL was trying to get a puppy from a breeder. We think the breeder told MIL she couldn't handle a puppy.
As you may recall, DH and I agreed that we would take care of her existing Corgis if something happened to her. When DH heard about the potential puppy situation she told him that the breeder would take the puppy back.
Today when DH reminded her he was not going to take care of another dog MIL told him "You're cut off" and hung up on him.
Do you thing we're in the clear and don't have to deal her anymore?
On a more serious note for those of you in the pet rescue business, is there any criteria you use when you are dealing with an older person who wants to adopt?
The interview is some time today. I'm hoping it goes badly and the normal MO kicks in; dogs are barking, she's screaming at them and she's feeding them every 15 minutes and the rescue person runs away.
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Post by taz157 on Apr 13, 2014 14:35:33 GMT -5
I volunteered for a cat rescue organization before, who did let elderly people adopted adult cats. During the interview, they did ask what the backup plan was if they had died. Hint: The backup plan was NOT the rescue organization. Sometimes the backup plan person was there to okay it too.
Good luck!
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 14:44:26 GMT -5
I volunteered for a cat rescue organization before, who did let elderly people adopted adult cats. During the interview, they did ask what the backup plan was if they had died. Hint: The backup plan was NOT the rescue organization. Sometimes the backup plan person was there to okay it too. Good luck! That's good to know because I think she thinks the rescue group will take the dog back.
I also googled Corgi Rescue Portland OR and there's only 3 dogs listed, all are mixes and two of them are actually in Kill Shelters in CA but can be transferred to a qualified OR adoption. My MIL is such a snob she would not be happy with these mixes. And none of these dogs are 8 or 10 year old dogs. They are listed as "Young Adults".
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Post by zibazinski on Apr 13, 2014 14:57:48 GMT -5
Trust me, those places will not take any animal back-ever. Their job is to stick you with the pet.
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Post by cronewitch on Apr 13, 2014 15:27:06 GMT -5
Today when DH reminded her he was not going to take care of another dog MIL told him "You're cut off" and hung up on him.
Do you thing we're in the clear and don't have to deal her anymore?
Yes, he is free to not accept her phone calls or do anything for her. If she says anything he can claim he is too hurt to talk about it.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Apr 13, 2014 15:35:48 GMT -5
Trust me, those places will not take any animal back-ever. Their job is to stick you with the pet. Incorrect. The rescue organization I volunteer with states in the adoption contract that they will take back the animal at any time for any reason. It also states that the adopter cannot turn over ownership to anyone other than the rescue organization (although I've always thought that was unenforceable).
As for elderly adopters, I don't know what our criteria is. The general application asks questions about how the dog will be exercised and cared for. My parents adopted a dog through the rescue a few months ago, and my father planned on walking the dog because their yard is not fully fenced. Too many "accidents" later, I started walking her twice a day because he simply cannot manage enough exercise and outside time for her. But I'm only half a mile away.
ETA: Per Taz's experience below, not all rescues will take back an animal. But some will.
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 15:47:41 GMT -5
Today when DH reminded her he was not going to take care of another dog MIL told him "You're cut off" and hung up on him.
Do you thing we're in the clear and don't have to deal her anymore?
Yes, he is free to not accept her phone calls or do anything for her. If she says anything he can claim he is too hurt to talk about it.
You have a great sense of humor Crone!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 13, 2014 16:16:25 GMT -5
I was wondering of your MIL grew a set of horns along with her tail.....
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 16:25:02 GMT -5
I was wondering of your MIL grew a set of horns along with her tail..... Maybe I should have titled it "A Tale of Tail-less Dogs...?"
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Post by taz157 on Apr 13, 2014 16:39:16 GMT -5
Trust me, those places will not take any animal back-ever. Their job is to stick you with the pet. Incorrect. The rescue organization I volunteer with states in the adoption contract that they will take back the animal at any time for any reason. It also states that the adopter cannot turn over ownership to anyone other than the rescue organization (although I've always thought that was unenforceable).
As for elderly adopters, I don't know what our criteria is. The general application asks questions about how the dog will be exercised and cared for. My parents adopted a dog through the rescue a few months ago, and my father planned on walking the dog because their yard is not fully fenced. Too many "accidents" later, I started walking her twice a day because he simply cannot manage enough exercise and outside time for her. But I'm only half a mile away.
I know each rescue is different but I had adopted a kitten from the rescue I mentioned earlier. After almost 2 years, I was having issues with the cat that wasn't getting better. I tried to return the cat and they wouldn't take him back due partly due to his issues. I found him another home, which the director proceed to let me know it wasn't a good fit. I thought "you wouldn't take him back so I made the choice that I thought was best for the cat at the time".
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 13, 2014 16:44:25 GMT -5
Yes, he is free to not accept her phone calls or do anything for her. If she says anything he can claim he is too hurt to talk about it.
You have a great sense of humor Crone!
I think Crone's approach is perfect! DH can play the rejection card too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2014 17:22:21 GMT -5
Trust me, those places will not take any animal back-ever. Their job is to stick you with the pet. Incorrect. The rescue organization I volunteer with states in the adoption contract that they will take back the animal at any time for any reason. It also states that the adopter cannot turn over ownership to anyone other than the rescue organization (although I've always thought that was unenforceable).
As for elderly adopters, I don't know what our criteria is. The general application asks questions about how the dog will be exercised and cared for. My parents adopted a dog through the rescue a few months ago, and my father planned on walking the dog because their yard is not fully fenced. Too many "accidents" later, I started walking her twice a day because he simply cannot manage enough exercise and outside time for her. But I'm only half a mile away.
ETA: Per Taz's experience below, not all rescues will take back an animal. But some will.
That's the rescue contract that I signed as well. There is, I think, a clause about how I assume financial responsibility for the dog until a new owner is found.
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 17:35:49 GMT -5
You might want to check out Hannah, the Pet Society in Beaverton. It's a weird little organization that might fit your MIL perfectly. Basically you lease pets from them. You can pay a fee and they will find you the "perfect" pet. I take that to mean they go to breeders as well as shelters. You pay a monthly fee and they deliver dog food to your doorstep. You have to pick up the flea and other meds at their hospital but the monthly fee covers all care at their hospitals. For a fee (around $30) they will send someone to pick up the dog and bring them back to your house for appointments including grooming. Since you don't own the dog you can return them at any time. There might be a fee to surrender because there is a fee for everything but they guarantee you can meet the new adoptive family, which wouldn't matter in the case of death. I'm not sure your MIL would pass their screening - they make you go to numerous classes and fill out a ton of paperwork. One of the issues we have with MIL adopting a third dog is that she already has her hands full with the two existing dogs. She can't lift them to put in her car to take them to the groomer or to the vet. And she's always going to the vet, at least once a week for allergy shots or whenever the dogs look at her funny "you know because they could be sick".
She also has issues walking them, especially in winter.
She also has had the neighbors in the apartments across the street and above her call the cops more than once because of the constant barking and her screaming at the dogs.
They are actually good dogs but because of her erratic behavior (screaming at them et cetera) the older dog has developed a shivering type tic. They are quiet and well-behaved when she's not around.
MIL told DH that the reason she wants a dog is because the last one was sick all the time and needed her. DH looked at her and said "So you want to adopt a sick dog?" Frankly I think she's bored and needs a project. So she creates complications and likes to wind other people up.
What I think she should do is volunteer for one of the pet rescue organizations but that's not going to happen. She's proud of the fact that she's not a "joiner"
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Post by goldensam on Apr 13, 2014 20:36:02 GMT -5
Every rescue is different, but the rescue I am an active member of has it in the contract that we will take back the dog for any reason at any time for the duration of its life. It is in the contract that they are not to surrender the dog to any shelter, new owner, or any place else other than us. We love the dogs and have a wonderful foster network and we stand by our contracts.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Apr 13, 2014 21:26:01 GMT -5
Today's chapter: MIL announced today to DH that she's going to adopt a Corgi rescue to replace the 12 old dog that died a few months ago.
Never mind that she really can't handle the existing 12 and 10 year old dogs.
When DH visited her two weeks ago her SIL let DH know that MIL was trying to get a puppy from a breeder. We think the breeder told MIL she couldn't handle a puppy.
As you may recall, DH and I agreed that we would take care of her existing Corgis if something happened to her. When DH heard about the potential puppy situation she told him that the breeder would take the puppy back.
Today when DH reminded her he was not going to take care of another dog MIL told him "You're cut off" and hung up on him.
Do you thing we're in the clear and don't have to deal her anymore?
Wowee, as usual. I wonder why she thinks that your husband is " cut off, " since he wasn't taking any money from her in the first place. It's possible she'll redo her will over it, so maybe he should tell her he's changed his mind about the puppy. You can always put the elderly dogs to sleep later if necessary.
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 22:13:02 GMT -5
Nazgul Girl,
Yes I believe she was implying that he would be cut out of her will. Frankly she needs us more than we need her. She's done a fabulous job of alienating people. I don't think she'll actually do it because it takes effort and money to change it. She re-did her estate stuff about 8 months ago when she was in really bad shape. She's got a good attorney and I think he would try to talk her out of it.
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Post by Bonny on Apr 13, 2014 22:18:58 GMT -5
When I adopted a rescue I had to give 4 references plus my vet. They called every single one of them with plenty of questions. If they check her references maybe one of them would give them a heads-up that she really can't handle another dog? You could tell her to put you down as a reference then you could tell them. I did think about contacting the Corgi rescue group and let them know what's going on but DH is against it.
Hopefully the rescue worker sees the issues and decides it's not a good situation. I really don't think her dogs are going to handle a new dog very well.
But who knows? I can't believe that a driving school teacher thought it was a good idea to help her get her driver's license back given how many times she failed the test!
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