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Post by PK Bucko on Apr 11, 2014 8:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by milee on Apr 11, 2014 9:00:16 GMT -5
Take a bag of salad and dress it up. I will add some cut up apple and pieces of Buffalo chicken to mine. My youngest son loves Buffalo chicken, so we often have that on salad. It's reasonably healthy if you make it by just marinating chicken in Tabasco, olive oil and smoked Paprika then grilling or baking it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:00:25 GMT -5
I will never eat liver. I don't eat organs of excretion. The liver is the filter of the body. Why would I want to eat that? Because it's really good for you?
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Apr 11, 2014 9:01:32 GMT -5
I would have to be starving to death to eat liver. But I would have one hand clinging to my headstone while I pondered the choice Once again, my virtual sister speaks! I feel the same way about liver! As far as food donations/healthy food getting tossed out thing: yes, it does happen. A lot. Some of it is is just lack of education. If you don't grow up know what to eat and why, you won't do it, even when it is literally handed to you for free. Salad makes sense as a healthy choice if you know that it is. But to someone who grew up not having it in the house, it makes no sense. I learned this from a local community center that serves primarily Central American immigrants in our community. Most of them are or have been farm laborers. They've picked fresh produce, bagged and boxed it, but never had the money to buy it themselves. All that exposure to it, and they never bought it, never ate it, never "got" why it was good for them. It was just a commodity that made them a subsistence living. When their kids encountered fresh produce at school, they would not touch it. It took cooking and shopping classes at the community center to change their thinking.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 11, 2014 9:01:57 GMT -5
Bagged salad tastes like chemicals to me. But if I was starving I'd eat it without complaint! This is another example showing the USA is going soft. Not to mention that they did a study on bagged produce and found that some of it had more fecal matter and such than the unbagged produce. Numnuts thought they didn't have to wash it cause it was bagged !! Oh and that chemical taste - that's to keep it fresh looking thru the bag
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:03:39 GMT -5
NO ONE in my family likes liver except for my Dad. Mom would make it once or twice a year and cook it in bacon grease. So she'd have the pound of bacon sitting out taunting us and we wouldn't be able to have any unless we took some liver. THAT tells you how much I love my bacon!!
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Post by Shooby on Apr 11, 2014 9:05:27 GMT -5
I don't care if liver gives you eternal life. I am not eating it!
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 11, 2014 9:05:55 GMT -5
I can't be in enclosed area where liver is being cooked. Well, I can but someone is going to be cleaning up puke. The smell alone is enough - but hyper sensitive to smells - see toilet seat thread.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 9:16:55 GMT -5
I took home economics in the 8th grade (eons ago). All we learned was how to make cookies and biscuits. Oh, and how to sew a stupid pillow. My pillow was pathetic and sad! There was zilch taught about healthy eating back then. I am glad to see that has changed but it also may just be the area where you live. Some how I doubt schools in the Ozark mountains are teaching kids about healthy eating but I could be wrong
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:18:53 GMT -5
That is something that can be included in Common Core!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:50:30 GMT -5
I don't care if liver gives you eternal life. I am not eating it! My list of foods I won't eat is very short, but it includes most organ meats. I like pate de foie gras, but since the geese are force-fed to get their livers all nice and fatty, I won't buy/order it. When I was in Germany I was glad my second year of college German was German Scientific Readings so I could translate the menus. Calf's liver, calf's lung, calf's brain, calf's heart.. they didn't waste anything. The sign over one shop said, "Pferd"- horsemeat, which can be legally sold for human consumption in Germany. I guess I do have my limits.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 9:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Apr 11, 2014 9:53:47 GMT -5
I don't care if liver gives you eternal life. I am not eating it! Maybe the people who threw the salad out feel that way about it. I agree that iceberg lettuce isn't worth the effort and is only worth eating when accompanied by dressing, croutons cheese, and meat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:54:56 GMT -5
To take RESPONSIBILITY for yourself and choose something different from what you know, first you have to realize there is something else out there...
When you come from a low information background, you often continue in a low information background, and often times they communities are rather insular. It makes knowing what you don't know more complicated.
Yes. Education is good. Education is necessary. But a half credit of nutrition is never going to counteract a lifetime of habit and experience alone. Its like suggesting a half year on world cultures is going to allow people to choose their own religion instead of what they grew up with..
It especially means nothing if you couple it with school lunches that don't reinforce what the nutrition class is suggesting....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:57:24 GMT -5
Iceburg lettuce is an excellent conduit for my cheeseburger. Otherwise, it has no value as far as i'm concerned...
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 9:59:57 GMT -5
Iceburg lettuce has no nutritional value either. You have to eat the green stuff to get vitamins.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 10:06:10 GMT -5
To take RESPONSIBILITY for yourself and choose something different from what you know, first you have to realize there is something else out there... When you come from a low information background, you often continue in a low information background, and often times they communities are rather insular. It makes knowing what you don't know more complicated. Yes. Education is good. Education is necessary. But a half credit of nutrition is never going to counteract a lifetime of habit and experience alone. Its like suggesting a half year on world cultures is going to allow people to choose their own religion instead of what they grew up with..
It especially means nothing if you couple it with school lunches that don't reinforce what the nutrition class is suggesting.... When you've been eating the same things for 20-30 years it's hard to change.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 10:07:44 GMT -5
To take RESPONSIBILITY for yourself and choose something different from what you know, first you have to realize there is something else out there... When you come from a low information background, you often continue in a low information background, and often times they communities are rather insular. It makes knowing what you don't know more complicated. Yes. Education is good. Education is necessary. But a half credit of nutrition is never going to counteract a lifetime of habit and experience alone. Its like suggesting a half year on world cultures is going to allow people to choose their own religion instead of what they grew up with.. It especially means nothing if you couple it with school lunches that don't reinforce what the nutrition class is suggesting.... Grandma drinks Mt. Dew, Daddy drinks Mt. Dew, Aunt Mary drinks Mt. Dew... get where I am going with this... There was actually a whole special on 20/20 or Dateline (can't remember which) a few years ago about people in Kentucky who drank nothing but Mt. Dew. They had rotting teeth, were extremely unhealthy, etc. It was sad to watch but they seriously didn't know any better.
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Post by wyouser on Apr 11, 2014 10:11:03 GMT -5
As summer temps arrive, how do you keep that much lettuce. It goes bad really fast around here if not eaten quickly. I could see a lot of free lettuce ending up in the trash spoiled because a family didn't eat it all in a couple days.
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Post by 973beachbum on Apr 11, 2014 10:13:16 GMT -5
I used to volunteer at a food bank for years. We always asked people if they would eat something before giving it to them. I don't care if I think the bagged salad is the best thing ever. if the person getting it won't eat it, but will eat canned carrots or other veggies, who am I to insist that they eat the food they don't like? We do actually eat salad fairly regularly but no way could we eat ten bags before they went rancid! And most bagged salad is mostly iceburg with a little something else throw in to make the label sound more appealing. So I don't have any delusions that it is actually some superfood, especially after it is drowned in salad dressing. Personally if I was stranded on a desert island and all I had to eat was lettuce and liver I would eat washed up seaweed and sand first.
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Post by Shooby on Apr 11, 2014 10:13:37 GMT -5
"To take RESPONSIBILITY for yourself and choose something different from what you know, first you have to realize there is something else out there...
When you come from a low information background, you often continue in a low information background, and often times they communities are rather insular. It makes knowing what you don't know more complicated.
Yes. Education is good. Education is necessary. But a half credit of nutrition is never going to counteract a lifetime of habit and experience alone. Its like suggesting a half year on world cultures is going to allow people to choose their own religion instead of what they grew up with..
It especially means nothing if you couple it with school lunches that don't reinforce what the nutrition class is suggesting"
Yeah, if you are dumber than a box of rocks, then you will probably never learn and nobody can help you. Most people have access to TV, the internet at the free library, etc and if they CHOOSE to EDUCATE themselves, they can. If they want to remain STOOPID and make excuses for themselves, then they can. Yeah some things in life are "hard". Boo hoo. Who said everything in life is supposed to be easy? No wonder so many people are barely functional nowadays.
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Post by tloonya on Apr 11, 2014 10:19:38 GMT -5
I wonder how much of this free food gets thrown away by picky eaters? A retired priest told me they had to be careful what they put in the BackSnacks program because "if they [the kids] don't like it, they'll throw it away".
If they throw edible food away, they're not hungry enough.
Someone from England was telling me that when you visit a dentist - they ask you if you want your teeth white or 'American white'? So I think it is type of hungry or 'American hungry'? NOW please tell me what KIND of hunger are we talking about when we are donating to fight the hunger programs? People keep saying 'there are so many hungry people in USA' and I am hearing from all over the places stories like OP just posted. And stories about bums on the streets who are throwing pennies in trash because the don't want to be bothered with counting pennies...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 10:19:52 GMT -5
Yes. TV has some excellent examples of how we should eat. Forget health class... lets just educate about nutrition through commercials! Well balanced meals there... How do you CHOOSE to educate yourself if you DON'T KNOW BETTER... If you were brought up knowing that Kraft mac and cheese is a healthy side dish and corn is an excellent vegetable... how do you know to educate yourself differently? ... I agree though, if people don't want to learn about things they don't understand, its difficult to teach them... so, i guess i'm done here ...
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Post by midjd on Apr 11, 2014 10:19:54 GMT -5
The point you seem to be missing is that some people genuinely believe they are eating a balanced diet. They don't see it as being "stoopid" or NEEDING to learn anything - because to them, their diet of mac & cheese and poptarts is fine. While we might see some foods as intuitively bad - how could you ever think X is good for you? - growing up in certain communities, it's never questioned.
I've told this story on here before, but when I waitressed, I worked with a woman who swore up and down that our fried cheesecake was healthy, because it was breaded in cornflakes (they're a breakfast food! and made of corn!) and the cream cheese had protein and calcium. Yes, this was mind-boggling, and I'm sure I posted about it jokingly on Facebook, but to her, that was a healthy food.
(Look at all the different diets out there. Carbs are good, carbs are bad, protein is good, protein is hard on your kidneys, iceberg lettuce is bad, spinach is good, non-organic fruit is bad, butter is good, fake butter is bad, no, wait, fake butter is OK...) It's hard enough for educated, upper-middle-class folks to figure out which foods are healthy or not. Why do we hold poor, often uneducated, often insulated people to a higher standard?
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Post by 973beachbum on Apr 11, 2014 10:21:05 GMT -5
To take RESPONSIBILITY for yourself and choose something different from what you know, first you have to realize there is something else out there... When you come from a low information background, you often continue in a low information background, and often times they communities are rather insular. It makes knowing what you don't know more complicated. Yes. Education is good. Education is necessary. But a half credit of nutrition is never going to counteract a lifetime of habit and experience alone. Its like suggesting a half year on world cultures is going to allow people to choose their own religion instead of what they grew up with.. It especially means nothing if you couple it with school lunches that don't reinforce what the nutrition class is suggesting.... Grandma drinks Mt. Dew, Daddy drinks Mt. Dew, Aunt Mary drinks Mt. Dew... get where I am going with this... There was actually a whole special on 20/20 or Dateline (can't remember which) a few years ago about people in Kentucky who drank nothing but Mt. Dew. They had rotting teeth, were extremely unhealthy, etc. It was sad to watch but they seriously didn't know any better. I think I aslo saw that episode and there was more to it than just taste. Almost everyone they talked to or showed didn't have running water in their home. So anything they drank had to be bought and brought home. Most also didn't have their own car. So if the kid has a dollar which does anyone think they would buy a bottle of water or a soda? Actually the idea that here in the US in 2014, we have huge swaths of the population without adequete accest to clean water makes me crazy!
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 10:22:51 GMT -5
The point you seem to be missing is that some people genuinely believe they are eating a balance diet. They don't see it as being "stoopid" or NEEDING to learn anything - because to them, their diet of mac & cheese and poptarts is fine. While we might see some foods as intuitively bad - how could you ever think X is good for you? - growing up in certain communities, it's never questioned. (Look at all the different diets out there. Carbs are good, carbs are bad, protein is good, protein is hard on your kidneys, iceberg lettuce is bad, spinach is good, butter is good, fake butter is bad...) It's hard enough for educated, upper-middle-cass folks to figure out which foods are healthy or not. Why do we hold poor, often uneducated, often insulated people to a higher standard? I was actually typing a response to shooby and ended up not posting it. This is much nicer and better said than what I had...
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Post by tloonya on Apr 11, 2014 10:23:42 GMT -5
I ate this all! It is awesome! Only thing I can't find in USA to purchase is cow udder. I would make $$$$$$$$$ if I could persuade anyone to sell it to me. However it is not sold anywhere in US. If you know where it is sold - let me know. I am not the only one: www.lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=34495
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 10:24:15 GMT -5
Someone from England was telling me that when you visit a dentist - they ask you if you want your teeth white or 'American white'? So I think it is type of hungry or 'American hungry'? Good comparison. American hungry is nothing like India hungry. I once read a story in a local paper in Bangalore about a woman who poisoned herself and her 2 kids with insecticide because she couldn't afford to feed them. DH and I once saw a bum walk into a store and hand over the exact change to buy a six-pack of beer. DH observed that he probably knew exactly what it cost and as soon as he had exactly enough, he made his purchase. I bet HE didn't waste pennies!
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Post by midjd on Apr 11, 2014 10:26:34 GMT -5
Kind of like how in the Middle Ages it was safer to drink wine than water? (I was born in the wrong era... ) I went to college in southeastern KY and for those who aren't from and haven't visited the area... well, you might find it hard to believe there are places in the U.S. that look like that. If any of you are Census nerds, there is a section that indicates the % of the population without an indoor bathroom. We did that as part of a senior sociology project, and some counties had more than 25% of all households without an indoor toilet or running water. Many of my classmates were not only the first in their families to go to college, but the first to make it past 7th or 8th grade. It's truly a different world there.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 11, 2014 10:26:46 GMT -5
Yes, but some people on this board live in a very tiny box and apparently don't recognize any of these problems. I am convinced they have never been farther than 20 blocks from their own home (if that!).
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