I hate flies.

[tloonya]

Seriously looking into some solution to  keep flies away from my store.
Was given an advise - Air Curtain.
Varies from $150 to $1700...

For back door - magnetic curtain.

If you have an experience with any of those - share, please.

My concern that if people walking in and air is blowing in their faces - how strong is it?
Will I hear 'oh, shit!' every minute?

And magnetic curtains...I know nothing about. Googling but nothing useful.

[Green Eyed Lady]

I don't know about either of those options, but please don't use fly strips!  I went into a restaurant once (little diner) and they had those hanging with a bunch of dead flies on them.  Needless to say, I didn't eat.  If you get yourself a bunch of spiders, they will eat the flies.

[Deleted]

Mar 21, 2014 14:24:23 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

I don't know about either of those options, but please don't use fly strips!  I went into a restaurant once (little diner) and they had those hanging with a bunch of dead flies on them.  Needless to say, I didn't eat.  If you get yourself a bunch of spiders, they will eat the flies.

LOL

I was just going to say the same thing!  Or those jars that they fly in and drown.  Nothing like a jar of dead and dying flies to make me want to buy more groceries.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Yummy!

[Bob Ross]

There was an old lady that swallowed a fly...

You could be that lady. 

[tloonya]

Mar 21, 2014 14:26:31 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

Yummy!

You are not secretly a frog...are you?
________________________________________

NO WAY! I hate those catchers this is why I am looking for something else.

BTW what eats spiders? I need birds as well. Chickens...Amish ones...there we go.
I am back to your favorite subject!

[HoneyBBQ]

Get some cats to eat the birds.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

You get a bird to catch the spider

You get a cat to catch the bird

You get a dog to catch the cat

You get a goat to catch the dog

You get a horse to catch the goat

You get a cow to catch the horse

Then your store explodes.

[Green Eyed Lady]

No.  I am not secretly a frog, but I can't say here what I secretly really am. 

I think bats eat spiders.  You could get a bunch of bats, too.  The down side is that the poop all over everything.  That could turn people away from the produce.

[Deleted]

You want live chickens running around your store to eat spiders? 

Why do I picture third world open air market whenever I think of your store? 

[NancysSummerSip]

Mar 21, 2014 14:38:56 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

You get a bird to catch the spider

You get a cat to catch the bird

You get a dog to catch the cat

You get a goat to catch the dog

You get a horse to catch the goat

You get a cow to catch the horse

Then your store explodes.

Too many animals or too much methane gas?

[tractor]

Air curtains are the way to go, in reality you have probably been to many places that have them and you don't realize it. Almost every store around here has one, the gust of air is so slight, most think it's just the temperature difference between inside and outside.

Bugs get blown back every time the door opens. You might be able to turn it up high enough to keep people you like out of the store, but that would just be for fun.

[Otto the Orange]

why do you hate time?

[bookkeeper]

I worked in the livestock industry for 12 years, so I have more than a working knowledge about fly control.

Granular fly bait will do the trick for you. Basically, you pour the granular poison around the perimeter of your building. The flies are attracted to it, and once they touch it, they will become sick and die. The granular fly bait also messes with the reproductive system of the fly, so if the fly lays more eggs before they die, the eggs will not develop into more flies.

Inside the store, you can pour a little granulated fly bait into a pie tin or other disposable container and put them in out of the way locations, such as under a display stand or in a corner customers don't walk through.  Granular fly bait costs about $50 for a 20 pound pail and is available at feed stores or farm stores that sell vet supplies.

My dad uses an insecticide named Tempo for fly control on his farm.  It costs about $40 - $50 at a farm store for a pint.  You mix the Tempo with water according to directions and spray surfaces where the flies like to land.  Very effective insecticide and the label lists this product as safe for food prep areas, pets and hospital/nursing homes.  Tempo has a very long residual, so a windowsill you sprayed down will kill the flies that land on it for several months.

Do you have any tall grass or weeds around your store?  Flies like to lay eggs in the tall grass and weeds, causing even more flies.  Get out the weed whacker and trim up anything around the property that is not mown short.

I have used both products and I prefer Tempo.  I spray the foundation of my house with Tempo every year to help keep crickets, spiders, Japanese beetles, box elder bugs, and flies away from my home.   Tempo really cuts down on the creepy crawly things that want to live in my basement.

[tloonya]

Mar 21, 2014 15:21:37 GMT -5 tractor said:

Air curtains are the way to go, in reality you have probably been to many places that have them and you don't realize it. Almost every store around here has one, the gust of air is so slight, most think it's just the temperature difference between inside and outside.

Bugs get blown back every time the door opens. You might be able to turn it up high enough to keep people you like out of the store, but that would just be for fun.

Thanks to you for taking my question as it was asked. I love this solution, just wanted to make sure it works.

[tloonya]

Mar 22, 2014 9:31:29 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

I worked in the livestock industry for 12 years, so I have more than a working knowledge about fly control.

Granular fly bait will do the trick for you. Basically, you pour the granular poison around the perimeter of your building. The flies are attracted to it, and once they touch it, they will become sick and die. The granular fly bait also messes with the reproductive system of the fly, so if the fly lays more eggs before they die, the eggs will not develop into more flies.

Inside the store, you can pour a little granulated fly bait into a pie tin or other disposable container and put them in out of the way locations, such as under a display stand or in a corner customers don't walk through.  Granular fly bait costs about $50 for a 20 pound pail and is available at feed stores or farm stores that sell vet supplies.

My dad uses an insecticide named Tempo for fly control on his farm.  It costs about $40 - $50 at a farm store for a pint.  You mix the Tempo with water according to directions and spray surfaces where the flies like to land.  Very effective insecticide and the label lists this product as safe for food prep areas, pets and hospital/nursing homes.  Tempo has a very long residual, so a windowsill you sprayed down will kill the flies that land on it for several months.

Do you have any tall grass or weeds around your store?  Flies like to lay eggs in the tall grass and weeds, causing even more flies.  Get out the weed whacker and trim up anything around the property that is not mown short.

I have used both products and I prefer Tempo.  I spray the foundation of my house with Tempo every year to help keep crickets, spiders, Japanese beetles, box elder bugs, and flies away from my home.   Tempo really cuts down on the creepy crawly things that want to live in my basement.

Thanks so much, bookkeeper.
One question though...I think I have a very good exterminator but how come he doesn't know about these both solutions you just told me about?
I do not have any grass around, however dumpsters are just in a 15 feet distance from my back door.
I would probably put granules around dumpsters and spray Tempo inside of my store. Thanks. If I can have flies free zone here - I would be almost happy.

[tloonya]

Mar 21, 2014 14:42:07 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

You want live chickens running around your store to eat spiders? 

Why do I picture third world open air market whenever I think of your store? 

I don't know why? Are you by any chance narrow-minded?

[bookkeeper]

Exterminators don't make any money off of livestock fly poison, that's why they don't talk about it.

Sprinkle some granular fly bait around the dumpster and your problem should be cut in half by the first day. If you have neighbors with pets you may want to warn them about the fly bait before little buffy finds it.

[tloonya]

Mar 22, 2014 11:34:15 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

Exterminators don't make any money off of livestock fly poison, that's why they don't talk about it.

Sprinkle some granular fly bait around the dumpster and your problem should be cut in half by the first day. If you have neighbors with pets you may want to warn them about the fly bait before little buffy finds it.

No, I do not have anything on the back of the store.
It is a small strip mall with regular back with dumpsters, refrigerators, storages etc.
I am not sure though if anyone with little buffies are wondering there - can I throw it under the dumpster just in case there are some buffies? 

Thanks, you are saving my sanity!

[tloonya]

Mar 22, 2014 11:34:15 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

Exterminators don't make any money off of livestock fly poison, that's why they don't talk about it.

Sprinkle some granular fly bait around the dumpster and your problem should be cut in half by the first day. If you have neighbors with pets you may want to warn them about the fly bait before little buffy finds it.

Would that be that? www.amazon.com/Maxforce-Granular-Bait-Bayer-Baits/dp/B003ORU1KA

[Otto the Orange]

Mar 22, 2014 9:31:29 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

............. I have more than a working knowledge about fly control...........

Hillary Clinton has a high paying job for you, it involves her husband.....

[toomuchreality]

Book keeper-
There is some type of beetle (flies) where I live, that looks like a cockroach to me. They're big. One was on my screen once, so I grabbed my can of Raid House and Garden spray, and started spraying it through the screen. I was freaking out the whole time. It seemed to have no effect.The bug actually shook the Raid off it's back leg! (It was dripping) I just kept spraying. I looked away, and when I looked back, it was gone.

I don't do bugs/spiders/flies etc well, at all. I have two screens on my balcony door now. One opens in the center, the other on the side. I use that Ortho spray, that is supposed to work for months. But I'm still afraid to use my balcony, or leave the balcony door open. I've only seen one inside, ever. It was on the back of my neck! (that's why I put up the 2nd screen) I'm afraid. Not of it biting me, just afraid.

Do you think Tempo would work on these things? I'm desperate!



Sorry loony, I'm not hijacking your thread, I promise! I just needed to ask this one question.
I'm so glad you brought this subject up, so I could!

I hope you are having a good weekend!

[bookkeeper]

Mar 22, 2014 12:07:01 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 22, 2014 11:34:15 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

Exterminators don't make any money off of livestock fly poison, that's why they don't talk about it.

Sprinkle some granular fly bait around the dumpster and your problem should be cut in half by the first day. If you have neighbors with pets you may want to warn them about the fly bait before little buffy finds it.

Would that be that? www.amazon.com/Maxforce-Granular-Bait-Bayer-Baits/dp/B003ORU1KA

Quick Bayt is the product that I have used in the past. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/Durvet-BC698303-Quickbayt-Bait-350gm/dp/B000AEAKMY

We used to buy it in 40 pound buckets, but apparently it is available in smaller quantities too.

 

[bookkeeper]

Mar 23, 2014 15:52:54 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Book keeper-
There is some type of beetle (flies) where I live, that looks like a cockroach to me. They're big. One was on my screen once, so I grabbed my can of Raid House and Garden spray, and started spraying it through the screen. I was freaking out the whole time. It seemed to have no effect.The bug actually shook the Raid off it's back leg! (It was dripping) I just kept spraying. I looked away, and when I looked back, it was gone.

I don't do bugs/spiders/flies etc well, at all. I have two screens on my balcony door now. One opens in the center, the other on the side. I use that Ortho spray, that is supposed to work for months. But I'm still afraid to use my balcony, or leave the balcony door open. I've only seen one inside, ever. It was on the back of my neck! (that's why I put up the 2nd screen) I'm afraid. Not of it biting me, just afraid.

Do you think Tempo would work on these things? I'm desperate!



Sorry loony, I'm not hijacking your thread, I promise! I just needed to ask this one question.
I'm so glad you brought this subject up, so I could!

I hope you are having a good weekend!

Are you talking about a June bug?  or maybe a cicada? June bugs are attracted to light, so turn off your interior lights when you want to use your balcony and they probably won't be as bad. 

You can mix up some Tempo and spray your balcony down to kill what bugs may land there.  Personally, I wouldn't go barefoot around this stuff.

You need to identify what bugs are bugging you and then go to a good hardware or farm store.  They should be able to sell you what you need to get rid of them.

[tloonya]

Mar 23, 2014 15:52:54 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Book keeper-
There is some type of beetle (flies) where I live, that looks like a cockroach to me. They're big. One was on my screen once, so I grabbed my can of Raid House and Garden spray, and started spraying it through the screen. I was freaking out the whole time. It seemed to have no effect.The bug actually shook the Raid off it's back leg! (It was dripping) I just kept spraying. I looked away, and when I looked back, it was gone.

I don't do bugs/spiders/flies etc well, at all. I have two screens on my balcony door now. One opens in the center, the other on the side. I use that Ortho spray, that is supposed to work for months. But I'm still afraid to use my balcony, or leave the balcony door open. I've only seen one inside, ever. It was on the back of my neck! (that's why I put up the 2nd screen) I'm afraid. Not of it biting me, just afraid.

Do you think Tempo would work on these things? I'm desperate!



Sorry loony, I'm not hijacking your thread, I promise! I just needed to ask this one question.
I'm so glad you brought this subject up, so I could!

I hope you are having a good weekend!

bokkeeper, correct me if I am wrong but if it is cicada - (google to see if it is) - I think if you see them - they are almost dead. So it  wouldn't react to the spray because it was a gonner.
I almost fainted first time I saw one. It was dry on my outside wall...but they are quite awesome creatures when you read about them...

[mmhmm]

Mar 23, 2014 15:52:54 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Book keeper-
There is some type of beetle (flies) where I live, that looks like a cockroach to me. They're big. One was on my screen once, so I grabbed my can of Raid House and Garden spray, and started spraying it through the screen. I was freaking out the whole time. It seemed to have no effect.The bug actually shook the Raid off it's back leg! (It was dripping) I just kept spraying. I looked away, and when I looked back, it was gone.

I don't do bugs/spiders/flies etc well, at all. I have two screens on my balcony door now. One opens in the center, the other on the side. I use that Ortho spray, that is supposed to work for months. But I'm still afraid to use my balcony, or leave the balcony door open. I've only seen one inside, ever. It was on the back of my neck! (that's why I put up the 2nd screen) I'm afraid. Not of it biting me, just afraid.

Do you think Tempo would work on these things? I'm desperate!



Sorry loony, I'm not hijacking your thread, I promise! I just needed to ask this one question.
I'm so glad you brought this subject up, so I could!

I hope you are having a good weekend!

Your Beetleus Giganticus sounds like a palmetto bug to me.  Is it big, brown and ugly?  If it is, Raid Max will kill the bloomin' thing. A mixture of powdered sugar and boric acid in a tin left outside your screened door will attract the things and kill them.  They'll also take it back to their nests before they die so anybody else lurking there will get the whammy, too.  Nasty things! (By the way, that mixture will also do in ants.)

[tloonya]

Mar 23, 2014 18:16:35 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

Mar 22, 2014 12:07:01 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Would that be that? www.amazon.com/Maxforce-Granular-Bait-Bayer-Baits/dp/B003ORU1KA

Quick Bayt is the product that I have used in the past. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/Durvet-BC698303-Quickbayt-Bait-350gm/dp/B000AEAKMY

We used to buy it in 40 pound buckets, but apparently it is available in smaller quantities too.

 

Done! Got both from Amazon and can't wait to spray away...thanks

[toomuchreality]

Mar 24, 2014 11:09:14 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Mar 23, 2014 15:52:54 GMT -5 toomuchreality said:

Book keeper-
There is some type of beetle (flies) where I live, that looks like a cockroach to me. They're big. One was on my screen once, so I grabbed my can of Raid House and Garden spray, and started spraying it through the screen. I was freaking out the whole time. It seemed to have no effect.The bug actually shook the Raid off it's back leg! (It was dripping) I just kept spraying. I looked away, and when I looked back, it was gone.

I don't do bugs/spiders/flies etc well, at all. I have two screens on my balcony door now. One opens in the center, the other on the side. I use that Ortho spray, that is supposed to work for months. But I'm still afraid to use my balcony, or leave the balcony door open. I've only seen one inside, ever. It was on the back of my neck! (that's why I put up the 2nd screen) I'm afraid. Not of it biting me, just afraid.

Do you think Tempo would work on these things? I'm desperate!



Sorry loony, I'm not hijacking your thread, I promise! I just needed to ask this one question.
I'm so glad you brought this subject up, so I could!

I hope you are having a good weekend!

Your Beetleus Giganticus sounds like a palmetto bug to me.  Is it big, brown and ugly?  If it is, Raid Max will kill the bloomin' thing. A mixture of powdered sugar and boric acid in a tin left outside your screened door will attract the things and kill them.  They'll also take it back to their nests before they die so anybody else lurking there will get the whammy, too.  Nasty things! (By the way, that mixture will also do in ants.)

Yes. I would guess about 2 inches.
I'm not looking up any bugs, to see if that's it. No way. No how. I don't want to subject myself to any I don't absolutely have to!

I have asked the mgmnt what kind of bug it is. I have yet to be given a real/straight answer.

We get a lot of box elder bugs around here. For a LONG time the mgr kept telling me that's what they are. Excuse me?! These are so NOT a freaking box elder bug, I can't stand it! Not even close! Box elder bugs are about 1/4 - 1/2 inch long, black with a red stripe. These other things are WAY bigger, and shades of brown.

I hope I never see another one. I did save the one that had been on my neck, for mgmnt. I put the can of Raid on/over it, until they could come retrieve it, the following work day. Mainly so I could prove that it was not box elder bugs, I was getting so upset about. Also, cuz I didn't want to have to clean the sucker up!

I realize that this is paranoia. Unrealistic fear.   -It is what it is.


I don't contact the office for every little thing, (or bug). I try to take care of things myself, and be selective about what I call for. However, one weekend I was cleaning under the bed, and saw what I thought was a big spider next to the leg of my dresser. (melt down) I kept watching it, and it didn't move, so I decided it was dead. I was so freaked out, realizing that it was the weekend, that I called and left a mssg for the office. I described the situation, and asked that someone come help me asap Monday morning. The mgr came over. I told her where it was. She went and got it. When she came out of my bedroom, she told me it was a piece of lint. I didn't totally believe her, so asked to see it. When she held it out, I screamed and turned away. I couldn't make myself look. It's amazing how strong your mind can be!  heh.

Boric acid works well for a number of pests, and is relatively safe to use around pets and children. But another thing I am not doing, is purposely attracting them to MY space.
I'm crazy. Not insane! 


Thanks for all  the help and suggestions!

[toomuchreality]

Mar 24, 2014 11:55:39 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 23, 2014 18:16:35 GMT -5 bookkeeper said:

Quick Bayt is the product that I have used in the past. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/Durvet-BC698303-Quickbayt-Bait-350gm/dp/B000AEAKMY

We used to buy it in 40 pound buckets, but apparently it is available in smaller quantities too.

 

Done! Got both from Amazon and can't wait to spray away...thanks

Good luck with them. I hope they work well for you!

[mmhmm]

This would be a palmetto bug, tmr.  These are not my friends.  This, I know.  We had one in the house several years ago.  Since then, I have the outside perimeter of the house treated for such incursions and haven't seen another.  Naaasssssty things!