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Post by Shooby on Mar 12, 2014 9:11:08 GMT -5
I also realize I have the ability to wear people. Hell, I wear myself out. I can debate literally ANY topic endlessly. So, of course boards are great forums for people like me. I enjoy being on boards because it really fulfills a part of me that has a NEED to tackle subjects in an indepth way. IRL, most people don't want more than light conversation. As for liking myself, it is a mixed bag. I have made mistakes. I have done a lot of right things and some things I am not too proud of. I am work in progress. I have had to learn to forgive myself for my flaws and in turn that has made me more empathetic toward others. I do find that nowadays people do not seem very forgiving of the flaws of others but have a 101 excuses and explanations for their own failings. We are a flawed species. I believe most of us are doing the best that we can and we will all have bumps in the road. I think a healthier dose of understand all around would be great. But, then again, I LOVE a good, heated debate as well. LOL.
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Post by steph08 on Mar 12, 2014 9:11:18 GMT -5
I like myself but I'm starting to feel like any decision I make will be the wrong one and that sucks. Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards That's me too. I really think I need to carefully think things through before making a decision, and then do the OPPOSITE of what I came up with! I just watched a Seinfeld episode where George did this - it's how he landed the job with the Yankees! Just do/say the opposite of what you think is right!
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 9:11:45 GMT -5
Firebird- I know exactly what you mean.
My BFF since college is an emotional drain. I love her and her kids to pieces but her life is always one drama after another. It's all made up drama and doom and gloom. Nothing in her life will ever be good enough and she will never reach a state of contentment. She is always actively planning for the next shoe to drop. As a result our relationship has suffered recently. For some unknown reason she has stopped speaking to me. Literally hasn't responded to any of my phone calls or texts in 6 weeks but sent me an invite to her daughter's birthday party that isn't until May.
On the flip side another close friend of mine is an absolute joy to be around. She always got a positive attitude and has an almost glow about her. I find myself wanting to spend more time with her because being in her company just makes me happy and content.
Scenario: In Laws coming for a weekend visit.
Friend A (BFF from college)- would first of all threaten to move again. They've already moved twice, leaving no forwarding address so the In Laws can't find them. She takes very personally a comment that her MIL made 7 years ago and has completely cut them out of their lives. Her husband is not allowed to talk to them and any emails get deleted without being read, mail gets returned to sender, packages get thrown away, etc. The In Laws haven't seen their son or granddaughter in 7 years and don't know that they have a nearly 2 1/2 year old grandson. She thought she recognized her MIL's car drive down their street once and called a realtor to talk about selling the house. The In Laws aren't bad people. They basically told their son that they wanted a relationship with him and that if his wife didn't want one with them they would abide by her wishes but still wanted their son in their lives. She took that to mean that they only wanted him in their lives and that she and their daughter would unnecessary distractions as far at they were concerned.
Friend B (happy friend) - isn't a huge fan of her In Laws but she would go out of her way to make sure they had a nice stay and plan activities for them to do with their grandchildren. She would encourage her DH to take them out to dinner while she stayed home with the kids so he could get some one on one time with her In Laws. If you asked her about them coming she would shrug and tell you there were other things she'd rather do but it's only a couple of days so no big deal. It would make her husband and kids happy to see their parents/grandparents.
Which one do you think is happier at the end of the day? I think the answer is pretty obvious
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2014 9:14:22 GMT -5
Friend A sounds like a psychopath. I had a friend in HS that stalked her ex boyfriend. He lived up by the mall so anytime we were in that area she wanted to "drive by and see if he's home". I'd scrunch down as far as I could in the passenger seat so if he saw her he wouldn't see me. That chick was seriously crazy, I'm glad I don't associate with her anymore.
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Post by Firebird on Mar 12, 2014 9:15:30 GMT -5
Friend A sounds like a psychopath. Word. I have some crazy family members but I can't imagine ever telling DH he couldn't talk to his own family.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2014 9:17:03 GMT -5
There are things I like about myself, and things that I don't like so much. I've spent some time working to change the things I don't like. After years of work, I'm much, much better, but I find my natural tendencies are still a certain way. I've decided those will never change, and I will have to continue to fight those for the rest of my life. Meanwhile, I will keep moving forward on how I act on those thoughts. I also decided to learn to like what I can't change. It is what it is, right?
The thing I am dealing with right now is that I have a friend who has a few of the same bad "habits" that I have, but she isn't working to change them. Which is fine - she can be whoever she wants to be. Maybe her reactions to things are good and strong. But, I didn't like myself when I reacted like she does. I found that when I hang out with her, she triggers it for me. She can say any number of things, and I can get all worked up, and more often than not, I end up regretting falling into old patterns. I have decided to stop hanging out with her as much as I can avoid it, as I just don't find it healthy for me. When we do end up together, I limit how much I drink and I stay pretty vigilant about what I'm saying and doing. It isn't all together relaxing for me, but I see it as another opportunity for growth.
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Post by Bob Ross on Mar 12, 2014 9:23:20 GMT -5
The key to attaining enlightenment is coming to the realization that you are perfect, while everyone else is flawed. If you can do that, the world will be your oyster. That, or some sh*t about desires. Either or.
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Post by moon/Laura on Mar 12, 2014 9:24:59 GMT -5
No, not really. I mostly view myself as a colossal failure. sent from my Galaxy S4 Why? I guess because I made many bad decisions when I was younger, and those have screwed up my life to the point that I will probably never be able to recover from them. I am "successful" in my workplace, but it's not that great of a job. No real money to be had, no chance for advancement, etc. I'm a good person, but I don't feel like that means anything. All that seems to matter anymore is how much money you make and/or what your title is. Aww....moon. I am sorry you feel that way. No one should feel like a failure ever! “Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.”
As long as you're doing what you think is best at the time there is no reason to question or feel guilty over your decisions. thanks, beer. Unfortunately, I don't even have faith I'm doing what's best anymore.
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Post by chen35 on Mar 12, 2014 9:30:05 GMT -5
I'd say it depends? I tend to suffer from "imposter syndrome" which means I am convinced that I'm a fake but really good at hiding it. I fear one day someone will discover I'm a fake and my world will implode. I have a hard time accepting praise from people b/c I am convinced I don't deserve it. I know it's illogical and I do work on combating it, but it's a part of my psyche that will never go completely away. This is me as well. I was telling my DH the other day that I am worried that one day someone at work will figure out that I have no idea what i'm talking about and then that will be the end of that! I have no confidence in my abilities. It's something I'm working on.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 12, 2014 9:32:53 GMT -5
It's very interesting to read people's perception of themselves and compare it to how *I* viewed them.
I have plenty of shortcomings, but it never made me not like myself. I've analyzed myself from the perspective of - would *I* want to be friends with me or would *I* want to be married to me. If the answer is "yes", then I would be good to go. If not, I would try to work on things that made me say "no"
When I was younger and wanted to major in psychology, that was one of the topics that I really wanted to explore - people not liking themselves. It was so not relatable to me.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2014 9:33:02 GMT -5
As a manager, I was always encouraged to give my employees measurable objectives. When writing a resume you are supposed to assign real value to everything you do. I think that people can't always "feel" the difference between good and bad. We need to numerically prove it. And, unfortunately, money seems to be our national metric.
But, in reality, happiness is the metric we should measure. If you are happy - fuck all the rest of them.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 12, 2014 9:35:36 GMT -5
I spent too much time in my life trying to be what I thought others wanted me to be. And, I spent too much time investing my time, energy and heart into people who really don't give a damn about me. I decided I would rather be disliked for who I really am than liked for who I am not. And, now I allow myself to be myself. And, I feel much more at ease with myself and who I am. I think part of this was that I really admired my mom's warm, exuberant personality. She made everyone feel at ease. She was fun and joyful and warm and sweet. I always wished I could be like her in that way. I admire the fun extroverts of the world. But, that isn't who I am. I am a very clinical personality with a dry, sarcastic humor. Some people think I am quite funny and I am sure people can't stand me. But that is OK too. I've always wished I could be like that too, but I think it's something people are born with. At least I hope it is or otherwise I have failed miserably.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2014 9:41:57 GMT -5
I am teaching my kids that you don't have to like everyone. Just because you don't like someone, or someone doesn't like you doesn't really mean that either of you are bad people. A lot of people don't have anything in common, or just do things so differently they can't find common ground. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
I have to believe that, because my mother doesn't like me. And she feels tremendously guilty about that. I'm just not her cup of tea. Too loud, too nonchalant about some things, not relaxed enough about others. If I believed that someone was broken because I didn't like them, then I would have to believe that I was broken if someone didn't like me. Maybe I could wash over that with average every day people - but when it is your mom (and a good mom at that - not a mentally ill drug addict or anything) doesn't like you, you have to just say "Oh well, people are different."
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 12, 2014 9:42:02 GMT -5
I like myself for the most part. Are there things I'd change? Yep, and I try to work on those things in priority order. I don't, however, expect to conquer all my warts and shimmer with perfection. That's okay with me. Most people, I think, are hardest on themselves. What you might feel is a horrible flaw often goes unnoticed by those around you and doesn't have all that much affect on your day-to-day life. It only shines brightly in your mind. moon/Laura, m'love, you're so much more than you give yourself credit for being. We aren't our jobs, and being a good person is far more valuable than being a crackerjack engineer. Those who are worth their salt (and your attention) don't care how much money you make, or what your title is. They're going to be far more impressed by that which isn't so visible.
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Post by Pants on Mar 12, 2014 9:46:05 GMT -5
I like myself just fine. One of the things I like about myself is that I do not radiate happiness.
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2014 9:52:19 GMT -5
I'd say it depends? I tend to suffer from "imposter syndrome" which means I am convinced that I'm a fake but really good at hiding it. I fear one day someone will discover I'm a fake and my world will implode. I have a hard time accepting praise from people b/c I am convinced I don't deserve it. I know it's illogical and I do work on combating it, but it's a part of my psyche that will never go completely away. This is me as well. I was telling my DH the other day that I am worried that one day someone at work will figure out that I have no idea what i'm talking about and then that will be the end of that! I have no confidence in my abilities. It's something I'm working on. I keep waiting for the grownups to show up and take over.
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 9:52:24 GMT -5
Friend A and I have been best friends for 10 years now. We used to talked daily, have family vacations together, celebrate holidays together, etc. Hell we even talked about where we would all retire to down the road.
She not a psycho. I just think she has a lot of issues that she needs to work through. That being said I feel like an asshole for saying this but I haven't really put a ton of effort into getting to the bottom of why she stopped speaking to me. She's kind of exhausting and a bit of a mental drain. I found myself telling her less and less about my life. She doesn't really know much of what's been going on for the past 6 plus months (nor has she asked).
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2014 9:54:32 GMT -5
Friend A and I have been best friends for 10 years now. We used to talked daily, have family vacations together, celebrate holidays together, etc. Hell we even talked about where we would all retire to down the road.
She not a psycho. I just think she has a lot of issues that she needs to work through. That being said I feel like an asshole for saying this but I haven't really put a ton of effort into getting to the bottom of why she stopped speaking to me. She's kind of exhausting and a bit of a mental drain. I found myself telling her less and less about my life. She doesn't really know much of what's been going on for the past 6 plus months (nor has she asked). People drift apart.
ETA: But she does sound like a psycho. Anyone who tells their spouse they cannot have a relationship with their parents and grandchildren (and the parents are not abusive/psycho/drunk/otherwise dysfunctional) is psycho. Or at least a controlling bitch.
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Post by Bob Ross on Mar 12, 2014 10:03:07 GMT -5
This is me as well. I was telling my DH the other day that I am worried that one day someone at work will figure out that I have no idea what i'm talking about and then that will be the end of that! I have no confidence in my abilities. It's something I'm working on. Here's a little secret for ya. No one knows what they're talking about. The key is to act like you know what you're talking about, and people will flock to you like flies to honey. The problem is then you have to invest in a rather large fly-swatter.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Mar 12, 2014 10:05:59 GMT -5
I feel like I've come a long way from what I could have been. So in that regard I'm happy. I'm successful and have a loving family and a good job. I couldn't want for much more, so I must be a fairly decent individual overall. But I still wish I had more friends, etc. So sometimes I think I'm not a nice enough person or friendly enough, or something. But then I come on YM and everyone says they'll be my friend and I feel better.
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Post by giramomma on Mar 12, 2014 10:06:24 GMT -5
I think I like myself. For me, that's accepting who I am, my strengths, weaknesses, and limits.
I'm much gentler and more patient with myself these days. I think now think where am I am presently is where I should be, if that makes sense.
Of course there are some things I'd like to change about myself, though.
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2014 10:07:31 GMT -5
I feel like I've come a long way from what I could have been. So in that regard I'm happy. I'm successful and have a loving family and a good job. I couldn't want for much more, so I must be a fairly decent individual overall. But I still wish I had more friends, etc. So sometimes I think I'm not a nice enough person or friendly enough, or something. But then I come on YM and everyone says they'll be my friend and I feel better. I'd go have a beer with you.
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 10:09:34 GMT -5
Every time I have to call my son out of school like for a dentist appointment or something I expect them to be not believe me. To call me on it and be like "are you really his parent?" I feel like a teenager trying to excuse myself every time I have to make a call like that.
I've been thinking a good bit about this thread and when I started liking myself more. I think my son was the catalyst. When he started his freshman year of high school we told him to put himself out there and expand his social circle, join some clubs etc. We told him that if he put in the effort he would see a return on that investment. Now better than halfway through his sophomore year he is the most content teenager in the world.
He doesn't give two cents what other people think about him because he likes who he is. He has a great group of friends that all feel the same way. He is quite proud of his nerd-ness and embraces it. Seriously we have zero drama at our house and I think it boils down to him being a genuinely happy person. He gets up in the morning without complaint. Sits down for breakfast as a family and the first thing he says is "morning mom-goose, how'd you sleep?" We have a nice conversation about the upcoming day, what's on his schedule, etc. He goes back to his room to play around on his computer. I give him a 10 minute warning, then a 5 minute warning. At the 5 minute warning he brushes his teeth, gets his shoes on, packs up his backpack, etc. We have a nice conversation in the car and he is off to school. When we pick him he tells us about his day, share amusing stories. We sit down for dinner and was have a nice conversation. He always asks how my day was as well.
It's just a very peaceful existence in my house. He has helped me see that if I just embrace who I am and surround myself with people I enjoy than I can be happy too.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Mar 12, 2014 10:10:54 GMT -5
I feel like I've come a long way from what I could have been. So in that regard I'm happy. I'm successful and have a loving family and a good job. I couldn't want for much more, so I must be a fairly decent individual overall. But I still wish I had more friends, etc. So sometimes I think I'm not a nice enough person or friendly enough, or something. But then I come on YM and everyone says they'll be my friend and I feel better. I'd go have a beer with you. Thanks, Swamp. I'll buy first round.
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2014 10:14:39 GMT -5
Every time I have to call my son out of school like for a dentist appointment or something I expect them to be not believe me. To call me on it and be like "are you really his parent?" I feel like a teenager trying to excuse myself every time I have to make a call like that.
I've been thinking a good bit about this thread and when I started liking myself more. I think my son was the catalyst. When he started his freshman year of high school we told him to put himself out there and expand his social circle, join some clubs etc. We told him that if he put in the effort he would see a return on that investment. Now better than halfway through his sophomore year he is the most content teenager in the world.
He doesn't give two cents what other people think about him because he likes who he is. He has a great group of friends that all feel the same way. He is quite proud of his nerd-ness and embraces it. Seriously we have zero drama at our house and I think it boils down to him being a genuinely happy person. He gets up in the morning without complaint. Sits down for breakfast as a family and the first thing he says is "morning mom-goose, how'd you sleep?" We have a nice conversation about the upcoming day, what's on his schedule, etc. He goes back to his room to play around on his computer. I give him a 10 minute warning, then a 5 minute warning. At the 5 minute warning he brushes his teeth, gets his shoes on, packs up his backpack, etc. We have a nice conversation in the car and he is off to school. When we pick him he tells us about his day, share amusing stories. We sit down for dinner and was have a nice conversation. He always asks how my day was as well.
It's just a very peaceful existence in my house. He has helped me see that if I just embrace who I am and surround myself with people I enjoy than I can be happy too. What drugs are you giving your kid?
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 10:19:27 GMT -5
honeybbq- as an adult making friends is not an easy fete. Friend B (close friend of mine) and I met initially through our husbands. The guys are good friends and at first we were along for the ride. Then a high school friend invited me to a scrapbooking retreat and I reluctantly agreed to go (not knowing any of the other women). She said they had an open spot did I have a friend that wanted to come as well. Her husband overheard me talking about it to DH and he was all "G" would be happy to go with.
So I invited her to come along. At the time I didn't know her super well. The weekend was a huge success and we've been close ever since then. In fact all 12 of us from the retreat have been close. We are having another retreat next weekend. We get together at least once a month to hang out (as a big group). We do dinners with the husbands (in smaller groups), do trivia nights together, etc.
G and I were talking about it and she was thanking me for introducing her to everyone. She struggled to make friends at work and always felt like the odd man out because of her position. She is a surgical PA but is also the lead PA and does all the scheduling, evaluations, hiring, firing, etc. So she's their boss and that makes it awkward to be all "hey want to go to lunch today? BTW your review is coming up"
She had struggled to make friends as an adult too. It seems almost like dominoes. Once you make that first friend I found if you open yourself up you tend to find more and meet more people. I don't know it sounds wishy washy. But honestly- two years ago DH and I were hermits that only socialized with my BFF and her DH (Friend A if you will). Now we rarely have a free weekend and have a very active social life. Quality friends too. The people that would drop everything if you needed something. It's been a whirlwind past couple of years.
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Mar 12, 2014 10:22:21 GMT -5
I feel like I've come a long way from what I could have been. So in that regard I'm happy. I'm successful and have a loving family and a good job. I couldn't want for much more, so I must be a fairly decent individual overall. But I still wish I had more friends, etc. So sometimes I think I'm not a nice enough person or friendly enough, or something. But then I come on YM and everyone says they'll be my friend and I feel better. I wish i had more friends locally as well. But people here have a different standard for friendship than what I'm accustomed to, and since i"m not into being cancelled on at the last minute or maintaining 90% of the effort to keep the friendship going, then I will just have to be satisfied with my 2 or 3 friends I have here. On the other hand, I have friends scattered around the globe. I keep in touch with my long distance friends and have for years... it isn't a one way street. so that leads me to believe that it isn't *ME* so much as all the crazies around. It also doesn't help that everyone has kids now and the childless couples simply don't fit in to play dates and all other kid-centric activities. ETA: i don't think the number of friends one has is always a reflection on their ability to be a good friend or their personality.
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 10:25:30 GMT -5
Swamp- That's just it. None. We don't even let him have a lot of caffeine.
Trust me- I've been watching and waiting for a shoe to drop or him to develop some crazy teenage attitude/rebellion. There just isn't any of that in him. He has his college plan mapped out (the what not the where yet). He has the greatest friends and the kids are a joy to have over to the house. The parents of his group of friends all get along really well and enjoy hanging out. The moms have a regular "mom's night out" and we get together for dinner.
I think it pretty much boils down to the fact that he really is a happy kid. He is a complete dork- facebook friends saw yesterday's pic of him in his bowtie and sweater vest headed to his Sub Regional Knowledge Bowl meet. He rocks a bowtie and one of those Russian style hats with the earflaps most days. Everyone at school likes him. The jocks are all nice to him because he does a fair amount of tutoring at school. The teachers bend over backwards for him and let him do his thing. Hell he talked his way in to a Independent study for seniors with his Engineering Teacher. The teacher checks in with him every few days and hands him more assignments and lets DS do his own thing. He even worked it so he would get full credit for the class and learn the curriculum from a class the conflicted with his schedule so he'd be able to take the test and get college credit.
I don't know what we did right or wrong with him but I'm not going to change anything now and mess up the good thing I've got going.
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