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Post by sarcasticgirl on Mar 12, 2014 10:39:59 GMT -5
Every time I have to call my son out of school like for a dentist appointment or something I expect them to be not believe me. To call me on it and be like "are you really his parent?" I feel like a teenager trying to excuse myself every time I have to make a call like that.
I've been thinking a good bit about this thread and when I started liking myself more. I think my son was the catalyst. When he started his freshman year of high school we told him to put himself out there and expand his social circle, join some clubs etc. We told him that if he put in the effort he would see a return on that investment. Now better than halfway through his sophomore year he is the most content teenager in the world.
He doesn't give two cents what other people think about him because he likes who he is. He has a great group of friends that all feel the same way. He is quite proud of his nerd-ness and embraces it. Seriously we have zero drama at our house and I think it boils down to him being a genuinely happy person. He gets up in the morning without complaint. Sits down for breakfast as a family and the first thing he says is "morning mom-goose, how'd you sleep?" We have a nice conversation about the upcoming day, what's on his schedule, etc. He goes back to his room to play around on his computer. I give him a 10 minute warning, then a 5 minute warning. At the 5 minute warning he brushes his teeth, gets his shoes on, packs up his backpack, etc. We have a nice conversation in the car and he is off to school. When we pick him he tells us about his day, share amusing stories. We sit down for dinner and was have a nice conversation. He always asks how my day was as well.
It's just a very peaceful existence in my house. He has helped me see that if I just embrace who I am and surround myself with people I enjoy than I can be happy too. What drugs are you giving your kid? that's the kind of kid I was as well... My mom really owes me!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 10:52:47 GMT -5
There's some things about me that I would change, but overall I'm extremely happy with myself. I think I've got a good job, started a good business, and I've done all this while not "selling out" and working long hours. I also have a great wife, great kids, and supportive family. It's hard for me to get TOO down on anything really.
But out of my entire family, I've always been the happiest. Just as an example, my older brother/sister are really cheap even though they have a lot of money. When my sister broke her leg and had to pay $1000 out of pocket for the deductible, she started crying and literally would not let it go for several weeks. I, on the other hand, lost $7K in a business dealing that went wrong and I was over it after I went to bed at night.
My philosophy is what's done is done, so just move on.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2014 10:55:39 GMT -5
Sorry to read this Moon as if you are willing to agree with people who choose to believe this. Its easy to measure money and titles which is why I think much of the real world prizes them so much. However, since I believe as souls we just recycle in and out of various lives, its just a temporary and not particularly useful measure of worth IMO. Yes its hard to go against the current and popular beliefs, but just like not keeping up with the Joneses, its the best way to stay sane and find ways to love yourself and your existence. Whatever it may be. I'm a little hard core, in that my idols are people who can rise from the ashes and choose to be happy in the most challenging of circumstances. I think of stories like a guy who once was kidnapped in a foreign country and held onto his sanity by holding onto a rock. Then he had to adjust to when he was removed from the trunk of the car and that rock was taken away. Probably a bit heavy for this topic, but I believe the ultimate goal is to be complete in and of yourself. Accomplishments and material things will fall away. The soul however, goes on. Don't sell yourself short, maybe next life is to become some rich mogul. This one has another goal.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2014 10:57:31 GMT -5
FWIW, I mostly happy with myself. There are things I'd love to change, but in general I am happy with my personality, strengths, and limitations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 10:59:14 GMT -5
Moonbeam, I think being a good person means a lot. I like who I am because I'm a good person, though I'm far from perfect. I'll never be wealthy unless I hit the lottery and I don't even have a real "career". That doesn't mean I'm 'less than" compared to anyone that has those things. I'm kind to people I don't even know, I'm loyal to my friends and I try to treat people the way I'd like to be treated.
I wish I didn't get embarrassed so easily and I'm working on being more willing to step outside my comfort zone. I have several more flaws, but overall I like who I am. I have times when negative self-talk creeps in, but I'm working on that too. The thoughts you allow to take up residence in your head affect your behavior and your behaviors make up your life.
I do think that people that like themselves behave differently from people that don't. When I was working with the wenches from hell, I came to the conclusion that they're just miserable people. People that are at peace with themselves and their lives don't go around trying to make other people miserable.
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Post by cktc on Mar 12, 2014 11:29:39 GMT -5
Deep down I do, but it’s a tough love.
I could be doing better.
I should know better.
Have I accomplished enough?
Do I really need to eat that?
Why can’t I be more organized? etc…
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 12, 2014 11:31:52 GMT -5
Most of the time I like myself. More importantly, I respect myself. It wasn't always the case.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 12, 2014 11:42:00 GMT -5
I have a slightly different explaination of why people are happy and unhappy.
I have two family members who have almost always been miserably unhappy, angry people.
Both of them had expectations of what life would provide for them, and what their DH's would be like, and what their children would be like. For them to be happy, everything around them needs to be exactly how they want it to be - they're control freaks.
Needless to say, their kids didn't turn out exactly how they wanted them to be, their DH's haven't been 100% exactly right, and they don't have the picture perfect SAHM suburban life they imagined for themselves, and this leaves them chronically unhappy and always on the edge of a melt down. Even the slightest upset to their well laid plans, or the very hint of a critical comment will make them come undone.
Both of these women seem happy about who they personally are - in fact both can be a little smug at how 'perfect' they are, compared to the rest of the world - but both hang their happiness on how other people around them behave, and how well the world conforms to the careful plans they made, and nothing is ever exactly how they need for it to be. So, they are almost always unhappy.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2014 11:47:37 GMT -5
Most of the people I know who are truly unhappy with themselves have a victim/martyr mentality. They have no power over their lives everything happens TO them. They are powerless to change anything because the big fat meanies won't let them.
It's why I have very little to do with my brother. He refuses to accept control for himself and instead blames me for popping out of my mom first or something my dad said back in the 90's for why he can't get off his arse and change.
While I am not always thrilled with myself or my choices I do accept that I have control over my own destiny. I can't change the past but I can control my future.
My therapist called it external drive vs internal drive. I have internal drive, which is why even though I am not always happy with myself I am aware I can make my own happiness. My brother's life is totally externally driven everything is done to him and he reacts accordingly.
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Post by swamp on Mar 12, 2014 11:48:50 GMT -5
Most of the people I know who are truly unhappy with themselves have a victim/martyr mentality. They have no power over their lives everything happens TO them. They are powerless to change anything because the big fat meanies won't let them. .
People like that drive me nuts. Get off your ass and do something to change your life!!!!
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Post by Bob Ross on Mar 12, 2014 11:54:23 GMT -5
Most of the people I know who are truly unhappy with themselves have a victim/martyr mentality. They have no power over their lives everything happens TO them. They are powerless to change anything because the big fat meanies won't let them. .
People like that drive me nuts. Get off your ass and do something to change your life!!!!
Aww c'mon. Without folks like these, your business would be in the shitter.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2014 12:23:22 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I'm feeling like a martyr lately, and there isn't much I can do about it. I want to be a good mother, and well as a good daughter, but I can't be both. It's really an impossible situation, so no, I'm not happy right now. But trust me, there is no easy solution.
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Post by Sunnyday on Mar 12, 2014 14:03:08 GMT -5
I'm naturally critical and dark. But I'm fine with it. My baseline for happiness is not similar to most. It isn't a concern for me. By myself, I'm happy as a clam.
It's the other people around me who insists that my world view is wrong and miserable that are actually making me miserable.
Case in point, I think my children are the most beautiful things in the world, but for fun, I was mentioning to my in laws that it would have been better if my children switched noses (that my girl had inherited the nose that my son should have got) and for me it was all fun and speculation.
No bad feelings, but then my in laws are like, "oh there is nothing with your children's noses. Stop being critical and what have you."
I just wanted to punch them in their pollyanna faces. It was just talk for talking. Yes, I can see how they might have thought I was criticizing, but seriously,!!!
i also love to muse about my personal imperfections and how I want to get surgery to get them fixed. But for me, it's not serious. I will probably never get surgery, and my self esteem is pretty good. I know I'm rather attractive. Just because I love musing about my imperfections (with a smile and self-deprecating humour) does not mean that I have low self-esteem. I am naturally confident, so I don't need to go around saying that "yes, I'm good enough and gosh darn it, people like me!"
In fact, I've noticed that it's the people who do lack self-esteem who go around saying that shit like that as a mantra, because they need to.
In conclusion, I'm happy with myself, but I'm miserable with how people around me want me to conform to their attitude and thoughts. They are relentless with their "happiness patrol."
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 12, 2014 14:39:08 GMT -5
I am at an age where I don't really care what other people think of me. I don't need flashy material things to impress people...and I'm happy in my own skin. As an aside, I was wanting to recruit more pupils for my subject at School, so asked the current exam groups what they liked about our classes. They wrote that it was me who made it interesting and fun. Never really thought about it before and I was surprised at their answers....but I must be doing something right
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Post by Shooby on Mar 12, 2014 14:42:38 GMT -5
Yes. I can feel perfectly fine. But then you get scolded by the Happy Police. I mean what gives someone the right to comment on my facial expressions or mood? How rude can ya get?
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Post by Sunnyday on Mar 12, 2014 14:49:46 GMT -5
Yes. I can feel perfectly fine. But then you get scolded by the Happy Police. I mean what gives someone the right to comment on my facial expressions or mood? How rude can ya get? Yes, the Happy Police or the Happiness Patrol. Ruining life for all curmudgeons everywhere!!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2014 14:53:05 GMT -5
I'm a fairly serious person, I guess according to some people I look "mad" all the time and they insist I smile more. DH did it to me recently so I sat on the couch staring at him with a really creepy grin on my face till he told me to stop it. What I'm just doing what you told me to do. He stopped commenting after that.
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Post by Firebird on Mar 12, 2014 14:59:20 GMT -5
Sheila- please inform the Boy he needs to save himself another twenty-ish years so he can marry Babybird kthxbai.
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Post by steph08 on Mar 12, 2014 15:01:41 GMT -5
I'm a fairly serious person, I guess according to some people I look "mad" all the time and they insist I smile more. DH did it to me recently so I sat on the couch staring at him with a really creepy grin on my face till he told me to stop it. What I'm just doing what you told me to do. He stopped commenting after that. Do you suffer from Resting Bitch Face?
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Post by lazysundays on Mar 12, 2014 15:02:33 GMT -5
Funny, to answer that question, I was thinking do I have any guilt or regret that creates self loathing. No. Life hasn't always been easy, but I am comfortable with how I got here. I think I like myself better around my husband. He neutralizes my neuroses and makes me a happier person.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Mar 12, 2014 15:05:47 GMT -5
What drugs are you giving your kid? that's the kind of kid I was as well... My mom really owes me! LOL! Me too. It wasn't until I became an adult that I became so vocal and annoying. Yes, I do like myself. And after reading this thread I think I figured out why I'm so happy but I also think I was born this way. Mom said I was always perfectly content playing by myself and had no problems entertaining myself. I was an easy child and I accepted situations and change easily and would adjust accordingly. When mom married my step dad things progressively turned violent and dysfunctional as I got older so my #1 goal was to get the hell out of their house and out on my own. At the time that goal seemed HUGE to me but now I realize it wasn't much of a goal in the big scheme of things so everything good that has happened to me was gravy. And I love gravy. I'm aware of my shortcomings and I've either accepted them or I'm still working on them but I am a good person and care about others esp. those that matter to me. I try to live my life properly and honestly and legally in every way. It's been working for me so I will continue to do so. To me - the perfect life is being free from controlling/psycho people and being financially responsible and sound so I can remain so. That may change in the future but right now I am loving life most days. No, I'm not on any happy pills but I do like to drink but (mostly) it's in moderation. I think that is also the key to happiness for me. Moderation.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2014 15:07:15 GMT -5
Do you suffer from Resting Bitch Face
According to some people I do. It must he herditary because people say the same thing about my dad. I'm not mad, I'm not usually thinking about much of anything during times people comment on my facial expressions. If I'm mad I'm usually yelling, so you'd think they'd stop asking me if I was mad in fear of confirmation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 15:10:10 GMT -5
I found that the better I treated people, the better I liked myself and the better I liked myself, the better people liked and treated me.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 12, 2014 15:26:30 GMT -5
Interesting question. It's hard to assign a specific "yes" or "no" answer to that question.
On one hand, I haven't really hurt people all that much. I have said some hurtful or insensative things on occassion, everyone has, but in general I don't feel like I've spread a lot of misery throughout my life. I have never physically or verbally abused anyone, and I haven't cheated anyone or been manipulative. In general, I can sleep easy knowing I haven't caused a lot of people irreprable harm. Furthermore, I've been reasonably successful in establishing myself as an adult and being independent. Basically, what I'm saying is I don't feel any regret over how I've done as an adult.
On the other hand, do I feel happy and fullfilled with my life? The answer, unfortunately, is no. I feel alone and isolated, and that I'm basically just biding time until I die. I can't say my life is joyless, but it feels empty and meaningless.
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Post by sheilaincali on Mar 12, 2014 15:36:40 GMT -5
Sheila- please inform the Boy he needs to save himself another twenty-ish years so he can marry Babybird kthxbai. Firebird- That's quite the age difference you know- he will be 16 next month
Reminds me: So DH and DS were playing this big epic board game at our friend's house. This is Friend B's husband they were playing with. She was out of town so it was Z, DH and DS along with a couple more friends and Z's three kids. These kids LOVE the Boy. He is one of their regular babysitters and they think he is the greatest. The are 5, 3 and almost 2. So they guys are all standing in the kitchen talking before their game and the 5 year old comes up and gives the Boy a bug hug and says "Oh Stevie, I love you!". Poor DS- his face turned bright red and he didn't quite know what to say to that. I think he patted her on the head and said "Thank you".
He's the oldest of all of his little cousins and our friends' kids. So he gets stuck babysitting and entertaining little kids a lot. They all just flock to him. He was babysitting Z's kids the other Sunday afternoon and the little one happened to be down for a nap and slept through DS babysitting him. He woke up about 10 minutes after DS left and my friend called and said "can you bring Stephen back for like 15 minutes? Owen is super upset that he missed playing with him" So I took DS back over there and he and Owen read a couple of books and hung out for a bit.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Mar 12, 2014 15:46:14 GMT -5
I am finally comfortable in my own skin. I'm not close to perfect, but I do make a concerted effort to be genuinely happy with the many blessings I have in my life. I mean seriously, I have it pretty damn good compared to most of the women in this world. So, I tend toward a natural "glass half-full" approach to life. I've also finally learned to accept who I am. *Some* of my psychic makeup is beyond my control and would be good fodder for a nature/nurture conversation. But, I finally got to the point where I didn't want my shortcomings or disappointments to be the focus of my life -- this ONE life (well, as far as I know I only get one) I have been given. So, while I try to keep my flaws from spilling over on to others, I also just let them be and get on with the good stuff in life. I absolutely believe that one CAN be introspective to a fault. I would definitely want to be friends with me. If anything, I wish I had hit this balance years and years ago. It took me far too freaking long to find myself. I spent far too much time and effort trying to be what others wanted/expected me to be and trying to please far too many other people who probably never gave a damn one way or another anyway. I also spent far too much time assuming other people knew more or knew best or, worse, knew me. I gave up far too much of what *I* wanted/thought because I didn't know myself well enough. (It's hard to be assertive when you don't know who you are.) Seriously. I wasted decades. Now, while I don't intentionally go looking for disagreements these days, I'm no longer so controllable/malleable/sacrificial. I've learned that I do indeed have my own deal breaker opinions/standards/values and I am thoroughly comfortable standing firm in them. The best part about being comfortable in one's skin, though, is that I can sincerely agree to disagree and maintain the relationship, but I am finding fewer and fewer other people who can do so also. So, I am more likely to keep my thoughts to myself -- not because I lack my own thoughts and opinions or because I lack confidence or because I want to be liked -- I often keep them to myself because I don't want to get sucked in to other people's contrived drama. So, I now not only know that I have my own thoughts and opinions, I now can control when and if I share them. This is a huge development for me. It has really given me the ability to deal with all kinds of people in all kinds of situations and to test for those who are best suited for friendships. I've also had to come to terms with the fact that there IS evil in the world. I was totally unprepared for how self-centered/greedy/selfish/ruthless some people can be. My parents raised me to be the stereotypical good little Catholic girl but never, ever taught me that not everyone plays by the same rules or the same moral code. Yup, that wake up call hurt. But, I've even come to terms with that. I've simply decided that all I can do is treat others the way I would want to be treated, try to leave the world a little better than it was when I arrived, and to carry my trash out with me. How others react or respond to any of that is on them, not on me. And, FB, I, too, can deal with any criticism except that I am a good, loving mother to my children. I have family members who like to make fun of my (appropriately) close relationship with my kids. They like to "joke" that I am "doing it all wrong". If it was an occasional thing, no problem. But, the are weirdly too fascinated with our lives so it comes off more as criticism and judgement. Needless to say, we keep interactions to the bare minimum. DH and I had absolutely no help from extended family raising our kids and we went through some really, really difficult times most especially dealing with our old school district over ODS's learning disabilities. I am not afraid to say that I am immensely proud of how my kids turned out. If I never succeed in anything else in life, I can honestly say I left 2 really wonderful, caring, positive, capable human beings behind me. Naturally, I credit it all to my nurturing. So, anyone who attacks my parenting -- even in jest -- is quietly yet decidedly dropped to the D list in my life.
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Post by quince on Mar 12, 2014 16:14:08 GMT -5
I'd like to say yes, and in the same thought, I'm phrasing my feelings about myself as "self-loathing"...so probably no.
My life is great. It's definitely had downsides that I'm still getting over, but they all brought me here, so I don't think I'd change them so much. I have a hard time getting over the idea that I don't deserve all that I have, but who really deserves what they get, for good or ill?
I'm fortunate to be with a guy who doesn't use my insecurities to hurt or manipulate me, and who boosts me up without being a cheerleader. He doesn't tell me I'm worthwhile, etc, all the time, he just treats it as though it is obvious- It has helped a lot. At least now I can see that the way I treat myself is unhealthy and not rational.
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Post by shanendoah on Mar 12, 2014 16:30:57 GMT -5
Today's not a good day to ask. I don't feel well and I have no energy. I feel near to having a mini-emotional breakdown over STUPID stuff, which caused me to yell at the dogs more than they deserved. So at the moment, I don't like myself too much, and I'm not very happy at all.
However, I spent YEARS not liking myself. Sure, I could point out things about myself that I liked, but in general, I was not happy with who I was as a person, and that that was sabotaging any efforts I was making to put changes into my life. Once I decided that my number one priority needed to be accepting me for me- physically and emotionally, things got a lot better. Deciding, this is who I am, and I am ok with that, let me start any changes I wanted to make from a positive perspective instead of a negative one. It has made a huge difference.
I am still far from perfect. I have bad days (today being one of them), but for the most part, I am happy with who I am, and very happy with where I am in my life.
I have made specific decisions that do bring drama into my life (adopting from foster care being one of them), so I do my best to keep drama response low. I know people for whom everything is drama, and I honestly could not live that way.
Firebird - babybird does not get to marry sheilaincali's boy, because Pop Tart is going to marry him. (Arranged marriages are still a thing, right?)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 16:57:22 GMT -5
I'd say it depends? I tend to suffer from "imposter syndrome" which means I am convinced that I'm a fake but really good at hiding it. I fear one day someone will discover I'm a fake and my world will implode. I have a hard time accepting praise from people b/c I am convinced I don't deserve it. I know it's illogical and I do work on combating it, but it's a part of my psyche that will never go completely away. I also suffer from "imposter syndrome." I had incredible GRE scores, perfect grades in grad school, published, won fellowships, won writing awards . . . and I still felt like a fake. I honestly think that is why I could never finish. I feel like a fake sometimes when I teach . . . until I have to visit someone else's classroom. Really? You asked the kids to turn to page 365? You asked a kid to read the directions? You asked another kid to read the example? You asked a third kid to do the first sentence? He was a coach, but still . . . However, I do LIKE myself and enjoy my own company. I forgive myself for being less than perfect, but if I WERE perfect, I'd never know it. I am that hard on myself.
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Post by grits on Mar 12, 2014 17:50:49 GMT -5
I don't think it is all about liking yourself. Some people suffer greatly through no fault of their own. Yet, they choose to be cheerful. I couldn't control a lot of what happened to me in life. I still have only partial control over what happens to me. Yet, I choose to be cheerful. Developing an attitude of gratitude goes a long way.
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