moneymaven
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Post by moneymaven on Mar 2, 2014 12:40:58 GMT -5
I saw my old boss yesterday. She mentioned that she knew I was on the job hunt and two colleagues who I had cast my net to in the job search had specifically told them I was looking.
I'm annoyed for a few reasons: she used it as a tactic to try to get me back and tell me how the grass isn't always greener with a snark. And secondly, I specifically asked both parties to hold the information in confidence and despite saying they absolutely will, they ran their mouths quickly. I find that so unprofessional!
Has that ever happened to you on either side of the equation: job seeker or hiring manager? How'd you handle it?
Nothing particular for me to do. I start the new job tomorrow and it has nothing to do with either person, but it annoys me.
I've been a hiring manager for many years and I would have never compromised a job seeker by telling someone in the industry. I've learned how small the world is and that you don't break confidence for any reason. It will bite you in the ass every time.
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Post by grits on Mar 2, 2014 15:19:16 GMT -5
Just remember that whatever you send out eventually comes back to you. They'll get theirs. They may not recognize the reason for it but they'll get theirs.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 18:08:50 GMT -5
I've frequently had people confide in me when they were looking for another job and I've always kept it in confidence. One thing I always ask is that they let me know if/when a change becomes public knowledge. That way I get to be the one to spring the news on people but it's only after the person who's confided in me says it's OK.
In the end, people who can't be trusted don't get juicy confidences. A former boss once told me he appreciated my ability to be discreet. He inherited our unit and told me he'd tested each of us out with quasi-secret information and that with one woman the information got leaked almost immediately. That was the last time he trusted her. OTOH, I was in meetings for 3 days with a guy 2 levels above me who I knew was about to be fired and whose replacement had already been hired. I never said a word to him.
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Post by Shooby on Mar 2, 2014 18:26:29 GMT -5
Just more confirmation on how thongs really work and how to play things wisely.
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Post by Regis on Mar 2, 2014 18:27:37 GMT -5
Just more confirmation on how thongs really work and how to play things wisely. How does this confirm how thongs work? Freudian slip?
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Mar 2, 2014 18:28:46 GMT -5
...:::"Just more confirmation on how thongs really work and how to play things wisely.":::...
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Post by Shooby on Mar 2, 2014 18:29:00 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 18:46:24 GMT -5
I've been described as non-confrontational but I'm getting ornery in my old age and I think I'd also go back to the two who blabbed and inform them that, from now on, they may assume anything I tell them is public information because now I know they cannot be trusted with confidences.
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Post by truthbound on Mar 3, 2014 2:23:26 GMT -5
You spread the information and people blabbed. That's what they do.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 3, 2014 7:32:24 GMT -5
That old saying "if you don't want it repeated don't tell it" I will go to my grave with some folks secrets but I never tell anyone mine so I will go to my grave with my own too...
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 3, 2014 7:40:32 GMT -5
One of the best things I have learned from this board is that very few can be trusted. Never tell anyone anything you don't want repeated.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 3, 2014 7:47:11 GMT -5
Exactly. I never understood the need to blabbing everything to others. Frankly, I am shocked every now and then the things some folks will tell me. And it takes a lot to shock me. I would NEVER admit out loud to someone else if I had done what they say they did.
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 3, 2014 8:42:55 GMT -5
How can you network for a new job without telling anyone you're looking? I've always worried about that happening which hampers my job search. Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards
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Post by chen35 on Mar 3, 2014 11:41:14 GMT -5
I know an HR guy at a pretty large company in town. He actually TOLD me that he had interviewed one of my employees. He didn't know he was my employee, just that he worked at the same company. We are pretty small at this location though. I couldn't believe he did that. I'd be pissed if I were the one who was interviewing!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 12:46:22 GMT -5
I know an HR guy at a pretty large company in town. He actually TOLD me that he had interviewed one of my employees. He didn't know he was my employee, just that he worked at the same company. We are pretty small at this location though. I couldn't believe he did that. I'd be pissed if I were the one who was interviewing! That's absolutely wrong. I work in a small field and have a big network. It's not unusual for me to interview someone from a company where I know another actuary. I have never, EVER communicated with my contact at their current employer while they were interviewing. I have after they've changed jobs (joined us or another firm). If they interview with us but then stay with their current employer, I never breathe a word about it.
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Post by shanendoah on Mar 3, 2014 13:24:37 GMT -5
Did you smile sweetly at her and thank her for the offer but mention that you were just about to start a job with the greenest grass there is?
But, before you for certain blame those other two, remember that you were job hunting in a fairly small industry (if I am remembering correctly). There is a lot of informal networking that goes around, people checking references that you may not actually list as references. At the university, if someone saw an applicant from a department where they knew someone (but not someone listed as a reference), they might still call up their friend and say "hey, person X has applied for a position with us. Did you work with X? What do you think?"
It is very possible that someone at one of the places you applied noticed that you had worked for the former boss and did a bit of informal networking themselves to find out if you'd be a good employee.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2014 20:24:31 GMT -5
It is very possible that someone at one of the places you applied noticed that you had worked for the former boss and did a bit of informal networking themselves to find out if you'd be a good employee.The OP said her old boss specifically said she heard about her job search from the 2 friends who had promised to keep it a secret.
I agree with the informal networking, though. I consider it fair game to call a contact at any employer prior to the applicant's current employer. I wouldn't call someone that I thought might break confidences, though. Similarly, if another actuary called me about someone I used to work with, I wouldn't broadcast that they were looking to leave their current employer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 1:03:53 GMT -5
If someone from another company told me they were interviewing a couple of my employees, I'd say THANK GOD...
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