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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 11:07:10 GMT -5
I can cut back on breads and pastas but I will cut you if you tell me I can have no bread.
Also, I hate that Paleo is also no dairy. No dairy, no bread/pasta, no sugar - what's next, low-calorie soap? Fat free air?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 24, 2014 11:12:50 GMT -5
I can cut back on breads and pastas but I will cut you if you tell me I can have no bread. Also, I hate that Paleo is also no dairy. No dairy, no bread/pasta, no sugar - what's next, low-calorie soap? Fat free air? The no dairy was hard for me. I normally have greek yogurt for breakfast. If I can't have that and I can't eat eggs, what the hell am I supposed to eat? One of my magazines had a review of the big diets right now and Paleo got major negative marks from nutrition professors.
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Post by milee on Feb 24, 2014 11:18:09 GMT -5
Ugh. Hadn't even looked into Paleo but from all the descriptions, it's sounding less and less appealing all the time.
For me, anything that gets too complicated adds to the misery. Even though I'm complaining about the excess meat thing, at least a low carb diet is fairly simple to understand and plan for. Like when you're on a diet eliminating gluten, at least that's reasonably straightforward once you get a good list of gluten containing foods. Sounds like Paleo has some complicated rules of what is and isn't OK; complicated is not my friend when it comes to eating.
Then again, it's nice that there's a variety of different diet plans out there that are effective. Almost everybody can find some sort of plan that will help them lose weight and still give them some of the things they love and are important to them. The thought of all meat makes me gag, but I have friends who love the idea of eating all that meat for example. Paleo sounds complicated to me, but I know lots of people I work out with that love it. Gluten free is pretty miserable IMHO but lots of people find it's not torture and the benefits are worth it. Whatever floats your boat and works - it's good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 11:28:26 GMT -5
WW/MyFitnessPal food & exercise tracking was hands down the most effective plans for me. I never felt deprived and I learned to expand my food horizons. I really need to start tracking my food/exercise again.
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Post by sesfw on Feb 24, 2014 11:38:18 GMT -5
DD is on a very restricted diet called the Specific Carb Diet ....... no dairy, grains, sugar. The only sweetener she can have is honey. She had a mass of colitis scar tissue removed from her colon last year and this diet is helping to heal her digestive tract.
I made cookies for her at Christmas using almond flour ..... and IMO they were great. I followed the recipes in Lucy's Cookbook for SCD. Her body is slowly healing.
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Post by milee on Feb 24, 2014 11:39:17 GMT -5
Yep. Lots of my friends love tracking food and exercise - one of their single biggest eye openers was discovering what a "serving" really equaled. I get too focused on things (obsessive is such an ugly term) for tracking food to be a good thing. If I have a general plan and can just follow the plan and keep portions reasonable, that works for me and I don't usually feel hungry or deprived. If there's a formal, complicated plan or I have to track details, I start obsessing about the planning and details, which causes me to be thinking about food all the time, which just makes me hungry. Then again, I'm probably just a suggestive eater anyway since all sorts of weird things make me hungry. Totally embarrassing, but whenever I watch the Biggest Loser, I get hungry. So, focusing on a detailed plan, tracking calories, watching other people do this just makes me think about food all. the. time. Bad.
On the other hand, if you're obsessive and know it, you can use it to your advantage. Like with exercise, if I set a goal and make a plan, I always follow the plan even if I'm totally feeling lazy that day because otherwise I worry that missing that day will prevent me from reaching the goal. So focusing on and worrying about making sure to get the exercise in is an OK thing for weight control. Focusing on the food all the time... not so much.
Man, I really wish I were a 6' tall guy. I really think my normal habits would be fine without much tweaking and keep me in reasonable shape. Being a small female is not your friend when it comes to maintaining weight.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 24, 2014 12:05:56 GMT -5
I forget what all nutrients they said Paleo would leave you lacking in. It seems to be all the rage among my CrossFit friends. I can get behind the idea that from scratch is good and processed is bad but the other things not so much. They really push eggs and yeah if I ate that way I'd lose weight from puking up my breakfast every morning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 12:13:23 GMT -5
Jenny, I feel your pain. Overall, I'm healthy and at age 61, I LIKE the shape my thighs are in, but last week my fasting blood glucose level was 109. Not enough to get alarmed, but 101-125 is "borderline diabetic". I have no risk factors but I do like sweet stuff (within limits so I keep my weight reasonable). I sit with the department candy dish/goodie table behind me at work. For 2 weeks ebfore the glucose test I swore off candy and found that it's easier when you don't start. It's really discouraging, though. My cholesterol numbers are pretty good without meds but if you cut down on carbs but want to be careful about fats, what's left? I love fresh fruits and vegetables, which helps, but I need foods with more substance and I NEED MY WINE!!!
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Post by milee on Feb 24, 2014 12:23:04 GMT -5
Jenny, I feel your pain. Overall, I'm healthy and at age 61, I LIKE the shape my thighs are in, but last week my fasting blood glucose level was 109. Not enough to get alarmed, but 101-125 is "borderline diabetic". My cholesterol numbers are pretty good without meds but if you cut down on carbs but want to be careful about fats, what's left? I love fresh fruits and vegetables, which helps, but I need foods with more substance and I NEED MY WINE!!! Oh, no! I guess it makes sense that alcohol would be high in sugars, but that never occurred to me. Yikes - did the doc suggest you give up the wine? That would stink.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 12:56:01 GMT -5
Oh, no! I guess it makes sense that alcohol would be high in sugars, but that never occurred to me. Yikes - did the doc suggest you give up the wine? That would stink. I haven't seen a doctor yet. This test was part of my company's wellness program so all I have now is that number- no context. I'm due for a regular checkup in June and will have the bloodwork done again, and will request a more specific test (I forget the name but it's a weird mix of numbers and letters). In the meantime, I'm trying to see what changes I can make that aren't painful. If I have to give up wine, I could actually switch to scotch. It's got to be less sugar and it's so strong that I sip it very slowly and would probably consume fewer calories. DH and I have a collection of a lot of bottles of realy good stuff form our travels, plus the cheapo, every day variety.
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Post by milee on Feb 24, 2014 13:08:43 GMT -5
Oh, no! I guess it makes sense that alcohol would be high in sugars, but that never occurred to me. Yikes - did the doc suggest you give up the wine? That would stink. I haven't seen a doctor yet. This test was part of my company's wellness program so all I have now is that number- no context. I'm due for a regular checkup in June and will have the bloodwork done again, and will request a more specific test (I forget the name but it's a weird mix of numbers and letters). In the meantime, I'm trying to see what changes I can make that aren't painful. If I have to give up wine, I could actually switch to scotch. It's got to be less sugar and it's so strong that I sip it very slowly and would probably consume fewer calories. DH and I have a collection of a lot of bottles of realy good stuff form our travels, plus the cheapo, every day variety. Gotcha. Is it also possible that the high resting blood sugar reading could be a one-off thing or caused by something else? I don't know that much about Type II diabetes (other than it's something I never, ever want to have) but had always thought that maintaining a healthy weight and exercise (both of which you must have really high marks on) were very protective. Seems like you'd have to eat a whole lot of sugary stuff to cause yourself a problem, which seems unlikely since you manage to keep such a reasonable weight level. That's why I'm wondering if something else is going on here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 14:28:18 GMT -5
I haven't seen a doctor yet. This test was part of my company's wellness program so all I have now is that number- no context. I'm due for a regular checkup in June and will have the bloodwork done again, and will request a more specific test (I forget the name but it's a weird mix of numbers and letters). In the meantime, I'm trying to see what changes I can make that aren't painful. If I have to give up wine, I could actually switch to scotch. It's got to be less sugar and it's so strong that I sip it very slowly and would probably consume fewer calories. DH and I have a collection of a lot of bottles of realy good stuff form our travels, plus the cheapo, every day variety. Gotcha. Is it also possible that the high resting blood sugar reading could be a one-off thing or caused by something else? I don't know that much about Type II diabetes (other than it's something I never, ever want to have) but had always thought that maintaining a healthy weight and exercise (both of which you must have really high marks on) were very protective. Seems like you'd have to eat a whole lot of sugary stuff to cause yourself a problem, which seems unlikely since you manage to keep such a reasonable weight level. That's why I'm wondering if something else is going on here. I don't know a whole whole lot about diabetes, but some people are naturally more predisposed to developing it than others - regardless of their lifestyle.
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Post by swamp on Feb 24, 2014 14:29:02 GMT -5
WW/MyFitnessPal food & exercise tracking was hands down the most effective plans for me. I never felt deprived and I learned to expand my food horizons. I really need to start tracking my food/exercise again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 14:29:52 GMT -5
I had California rolls and a banana for lunch... and now I want combos - WTF? I haven't even thought about Combos in well over a year...
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Post by swamp on Feb 24, 2014 14:31:49 GMT -5
I had California rolls and a banana for lunch... and now I want combos - WTF? I haven't even thought about Combos in well over a year... I'm still jonesing for Cheetos
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Post by milee on Feb 24, 2014 14:40:18 GMT -5
I had California rolls and a banana for lunch... and now I want combos - WTF? I haven't even thought about Combos in well over a year... I'm still jonesing for Cheetos Think about Horatio's use for Cheetos. Poof, no more cravings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 14:43:13 GMT -5
MM, yeah. I actually liked the ones with plain cracker outside.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 14:48:33 GMT -5
I don't know a whole whole lot about diabetes, but some people are naturally more predisposed to developing it than others - regardless of their lifestyle. Yeah, one friend told me his mother was diagnosed with diabetes at my age, under the same circumstances, active, healthy weight, healthy diet. I do plan to talk to a doctor about next steps in June.
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Post by ilovedolphins on Feb 28, 2014 22:15:32 GMT -5
Starting tomorrow I am trying the no soda, candy, cookies or sweets thing. That is mostly what my pathetic diet is made up of so it will be a change. I am hoping it will make the roll around my stomach smaller and my fat neck a bit smaller. I need to get back to my treadmill and tracking my food. I have been putting in a lot of overtime hours and turn to junk food to eat in a hurry.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Feb 28, 2014 22:49:08 GMT -5
WW/MyFitnessPal food & exercise tracking was hands down the most effective plans for me. I never felt deprived and I learned to expand my food horizons. I really need to start tracking my food/exercise again. MFP and learning to enjoy exercise really worked for me as well. I'm a pescetarian so I've always been on top of the quality of foods I ate, but I definitely ate too much. I learned portion control and smarter choices (if I have a burrito for lunch, maybe don't have pizza for dinner!) Thankfully, I've never been a yo-yo person. The weight gradually packed on over a few years and I gradually lost it. I started 2012 at 180 pounds (size 14, ugh) and ended 2013 at 143 (where i seem to be staying, which is a size 8). I could never do a lot of these fad diets like Paleo. I already don't eat meat and try to stick to a mostly plant-based diet (I have fish 1-2 times a week), I don't need any further dietary restrictions!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 1, 2014 0:55:58 GMT -5
I really REALLY need to loose some weight.
But I will not do any "diet" that I am not willing to do "for life", so that pretty much cuts out all of them.
I KNOW what two things will make me loose weight, I just don't have the self discipline to do it.
Jenny - I am curious - why did you decide to do no-sugar now?
The reason I am asking is bc there seem to be 50 women on my FB feed who are going sugar-free, so I wasn't sure if it was a big thing now or something
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 7:01:48 GMT -5
Um.... So yeah, apparently that little slip led to a larger slip and now I have to start over. I also think I'm near "that time" so that makes it harder for me. It usually takes me 1-2 tries to stick to diet changes. Here's hoping next week will be the week that sticks!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 7:05:55 GMT -5
Lena, it took a while for me to realize this, but eating excess sugar: A)makes me want to eat more things with excess sugar B)makes me feel like crap afterward C) (IMO) affects how much I get out of my workouts
I don't want those things to lead to more health issues so I figure I'd better get a handle on it now.
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Post by Opti on Mar 1, 2014 7:16:45 GMT -5
Good luck MJ. I've been in a major slip for about three days and I think the impending period is a big part of it. I don't know if I should be happy or sad the Spritz cookies I made with red palm oil and some sweet rice flour turned out well. If they were worse perhaps I'd be eating less of them? Also, I think this winter is making it easy for me to stress eat. According to what I read yesterday, if central NJ got no more snow(not happening ), we'd have the second snowiest winter on record for central NJ surpassing the 1995-1996 winter. I remember that one well as I moved out of my first house to deal with shoveling my car out of its parking spot on a regular basis. As of yesterday the forecast was up to 16 inches of snow over Sunday into Monday.
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Post by Opti on Mar 1, 2014 7:19:20 GMT -5
FWIW MJ, I'm thinking of splurging on some Grapefruit juice and some oatmeal. Its a low sugar breakfast that seems to curb my desire to eat sweet things the rest of the day. Not sure if you like either, but its worked for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 8:38:26 GMT -5
I really REALLY need to loose some weight. But I will not do any "diet" that I am not willing to do "for life", so that pretty much cuts out all of them. I KNOW what two things will make me loose weight, I just don't have the self discipline to do it. Jenny - I am curious - why did you decide to do no-sugar now? The reason I am asking is bc there seem to be 50 women on my FB feed who are going sugar-free, so I wasn't sure if it was a big thing now or something South Beach is not a 'diet', it'a a way of life....the first 2 weeks of no-carb is to get rid of the cravings.....I don't know that thre is any food on South Beach that you will never get to eat again.....I'd get the book from the library and look through it.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Mar 1, 2014 8:45:15 GMT -5
I really REALLY need to loose some weight. But I will not do any "diet" that I am not willing to do "for life", so that pretty much cuts out all of them. I KNOW what two things will make me loose weight, I just don't have the self discipline to do it. Jenny - I am curious - why did you decide to do no-sugar now? The reason I am asking is bc there seem to be 50 women on my FB feed who are going sugar-free, so I wasn't sure if it was a big thing now or something I never went on a "diet" to lose weight. I paid more attention to what went into my body, which i continue to do. I already had some healthy habits (not a soda or juice drinker, not much of a sweet tooth, vegetarian diet) but I had to watch my portion sizes and the amount of "bad" foods I treated myself to. I still eat burritos, pizza, and whatnot, just not every week.
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Post by truthbound on Mar 2, 2014 5:31:12 GMT -5
Why would you want to give up sugar and sweets? Everything in moderation Because sugar is poison. Just suck it up like someone said earlier. In a couple of weeks you won't even miss it.
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Post by motherto2 on Mar 2, 2014 11:31:43 GMT -5
I too, am a sugar addict. And sorry, but sucking it up and doing it doesn't work if you are addicted to it. It's a battle you have to deal with all the time. Maybe not every day, but most days. I've been battling it most of my adult life. I've said for over 20 years that it's got something as addictive in it as cigarettes. Now they are starting to admit it.
Funny you are talking about the South Beach Diet. I decided last week that I was going to try it again. I had the book out and wrote out my grocery list, so I'm ready. Not eating sugar is going to be tough. Someone mentioned quinoa. Is that ok on the first phase? I love it but thought I'd have to cut it out for now. I'd love to be able to eat that. It's better than rice! So, today being my last day of freedom, I just ate one of those new snickers bars that has PB in it.
I'm hoping one of the benefits is losing weight and that will help my back. I've been working towards getting one of my smaller rooms ready to move my treadmill into it. It's currently out in my kids old family room, which I no longer heat or cool since they don't go out there anymore. So of course I have every excuse not to go out there. Plus I read in the instruction manual not to use it under a certain temperature, which it stays under that temp for several months. So, I've got the room ready, now I just need to find a couple of guys to move it for me. It's so much heavier than my old one and doesn't have wheels, so I know better than to even attempt to move it. Times like this I regret not having male friends .
I'll let you know how the diet is working for me. I'm expecting all kinds of headaches and such. Hopefully won't need bail money.
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2014 11:38:53 GMT -5
FWIW MJ, I'm thinking of splurging on some Grapefruit juice and some oatmeal. Its a low sugar breakfast that seems to curb my desire to eat sweet things the rest of the day. Not sure if you like either, but its worked for me. Grapefruit juice and oatmeal are carb bombs. Juice is all sugar. Not that there is anything wrong with those foods, but it's not low carb.
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