Rocky Mtn Saver
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Feb 20, 2014 18:58:46 GMT -5
LOL, I didn't even catch that!
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raeoflyte
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 20, 2014 21:13:59 GMT -5
What kind of responses are you wanting and/or who do you want responses from?
I'm not understanding what your end goal of posting is if you have no interest in hearing any input.
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swasat
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Post by swasat on Feb 20, 2014 22:16:52 GMT -5
Thus posted DQ. This is the problem when people post on what they think they know, instead of actually quizzing the OP or any poster for that matter. I've read some library books on Solaris 10 and even had an informational phone interview with a former colleague who was the head of Linux and UNIX computing at Pfizer/Pharmacia/whatever potato/potatoe/vodka. Certifications do not prove you know anything. At best they might prove you are good at taking tests or had someone take it for you. My knowledge is built on a deep base, so some of this "new" stuff is kind of ho hum, we aren't still there yet for me. I've worked in big companies like Pfizer where we had reps give us presentations on the new stuff and what was coming down the pike. Yet, Windows XP, which is what my laptop has is still popular. I have a friend roughly 10 years older than me who is working with .php and UNIX files. He has no experience, but because he has an engineering mindset he is getting by and not losing his job. He was transistioned. Unfortunate for me, it would be a piece of cake for me to do what he does now, even though I don't know php yet/all that much. But many years of experience with various programming languages have given me the ability to make things happen.In conclusion, I have been reading up and broadening my skills. I just don't have any certs to prove anything. I just need to find smart employers, possibly those who are 40+ years old who aren't so enchanted with the now that they miss its just a natural progression from what was. Linux/Solaris is still not at the point mainframes were in 2000. Windows still can't do some simple stuff that UNIX has been doing for two decades. (Whine and ramble off. Time for dinner and more useful endeavors.) Let me bite. I am an out and out IT professional, with two advanced degrees in Computer Science, multiple certifications (all kept current) and been in IT application development for about 14 years now. I work for one of the BIG banks in America. Oh, and I am 36 years old. So lets see. 1. You don't know php. What programming language DO you know? Java, C++, C#, Drupal, VB, Visual C? What is your niche? 2. You say Unix/Solaris is not where Mainframes were in 2000. Ummm....how do you know? You haven't held a full time IT job in last 5 years? Oh, I agree you have read up on it. But do you know how many companies use Unix as their main system now? Almost all big systems are built on Unix. Yes, mainframe still exists, but its not THE system anymore. Sorry to break your bubble but just having mainframe knowledge and criticizing Unix is not going to take you anywhere. You want a IT job, you learn Unix. 3. Finding a "smart" employer who is more than 40+ years old. Fortunately, all smart IT people keep up with the times. So chances are that the 40+ year old hiring manager you are looking for is going to ask you some basic questions about programming languages, operating systems and your past five years of work history. You MUST know something that is absolutely current. 4. No certifications. Why?? Why are you not taking any certifications? If you have been out of workforce for 5 years, certifications can actually show the future employer you are up to date on skills. 5. Big companies. Do you think big companies still have the midst they had 5-8 years ago? Big companies are the first to update their technologies to the latest and the greatest. If you want a good job with a BIG company, you HAVE to have the latest technological knowledge. I don't follow your pattern. What exactly are you trying? What exactly do you gain by not taking current certifications? I have been fully employed and even I keep my certifications current. Its the nature of IT industry. I am constantly reading, constantly keeping abreast with new technologies. I am a hiring manager. Honestly, if someone like you came up for an interview and I saw the attitude and the lack of current skill set, I wouldn't even read the resume. Sorry. There are are plenty of people out there who are working hard learning new stuff. They deserve the job more IMHO. The fact that you worked for a big company like Pfizer or Lucent way back when doesn't count diddly squat. I guess I have been harsh in my response. But this is the truth of the IT industry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 22:19:10 GMT -5
Actually I'm not getting my foot in the door anywhere good. If Boston peeps want to PM me though, I have an opportunity at Backstage Libraryworks I plan to apply to. It will only pay $12-15/hr. if I get it, so I need suggestions on where to live or think about living should I get the opportunity to interview and get the job. (FWIW, to me good is at least $50K/yr, given I made double that in 2003. $10/hr. isn't good, even in LCOL Indiana. Its survival wages, not thrival pay. MO.) I would not move to Boston for $12-$15/hr. I repeat: I would not move to Boston for $12-$15/hr job. My wife and I make 100k/year combined and we are barely considered middle class here. DO NOT move to Boston for a $12-15/hr job. DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT. Leave that for the young spring chickens that can have 4-5 roommates in a 2-3 bedrooms place; not made for a 50 year old that would prefer a one bedroom apartment.
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HoneyBBQ
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Feb 20, 2014 22:19:41 GMT -5
The fact that everyone has united, makes me know I'm on the right track. Huh?? Seriously?? My SIL is 50+ and an upper level, highly compensated manager at Avaya. She seems to have no problem being taken seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 22:24:47 GMT -5
Also OP, I have an accounting degree but haven't work in accounting in over 5 years.
As I tell my wife; my degree is obsolete as of today standards. A hiring manager would prefer to take a 22-23 just out of college vs my 28 (soon to be 29) year old self.
You have to accept the position you are in and work with what you got. I am trying to re-invent myself with the resources I have available to me now; I would go into an interview and sale my self as a manager/ sales driven/ merchandiser etc not an accounting clerk doing account receivable, fixed assets, billing , etc.
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swasat
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Post by swasat on Feb 20, 2014 22:28:08 GMT -5
Actually I'm not getting my foot in the door anywhere good. If Boston peeps want to PM me though, I have an opportunity at Backstage Libraryworks I plan to apply to. It will only pay $12-15/hr. if I get it, so I need suggestions on where to live or think about living should I get the opportunity to interview and get the job. (FWIW, to me good is at least $50K/yr, given I made double that in 2003. $10/hr. isn't good, even in LCOL Indiana. Its survival wages, not thrival pay. MO.) Why would anyone pay you $50K/year if you don't even have current skill set and certifications to prove it AND when you have been out of IT workforce for 5 years? Thats like the starting pay in IT application development. Why would anyone hire you and not a fresh college graduate who knows all the latest stuff?
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