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Post by vl on Feb 22, 2011 20:41:42 GMT -5
Well... okay then.
Qaddafi won't go down alone, he'll blow the wells as he goes to hell. $10 gallon gasoline will collapse the sub-wealthy banker portion of the economy (that's 95% of the workforce AND logistics). The Dow will free fall.
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Post by frankq on Feb 22, 2011 21:24:21 GMT -5
Well... okay then. Qaddafi won't go down alone, he'll blow the wells as he goes to hell. $10 gallon gasoline will collapse the sub-wealthy banker portion of the economy (that's 95% of the workforce AND logistics). The Dow will free fall. Yeah, they pump 2% of the world's oil and they'll force gasoline to rise 350%. Ok. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 22:07:30 GMT -5
What is your risk quotient? If the stocks suddenly start a 10-15% correction, are you going to pull the plug? Investing to me is a LONG term proposition.....i NEVER expect to sell some of my positions. My kids...and hopefully their kids....will inherit them. I buy companies that i understand....that have the ability to withstand cyclical downturns....but in a good economy they will grow their profits. I dont like high flyers....as they tend to soar, they also tend to crash.....think Apple....great company....and one i totally missed because i thought it was a fad. Little did i know..... Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=startinvesting&action=display&thread=3153&page=1#ixzz1EkP4WeBwI am hoping this starts the correction we need. Earnings were great for most s&p 500 companies, but basically we have been on an up trajectory for a while now But it is more likely just unrest from the ME.....and as soon as things start to stabalize, we should resume the climb The next week should be telling.... But as some say...it is a marathon...not a sprint |
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Post by verrip1 on Feb 22, 2011 22:15:12 GMT -5
Mid. You're looking more stupid by the day. And I thought that it wasn't possible for you to appear any dumber....... It truly is amazing how these folks continue to demonstrate that they are not only obsessively limited in their ability to evaluate the broad spectrum of investment vehicles available today, they blatantly pump only two limited investments, physical gold and silver. They are the pumpers! |
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Feb 22, 2011 22:25:21 GMT -5
Mid. You're looking more stupid by the day. And I thought that it wasn't possible for you to appear any dumber....... It truly is amazing how these folks continue to demonstrate that they are not only obsessively limited in their ability to evaluate the broad spectrum of investment vehicles available today, they blatantly pump only two limited investments, physical gold and silver. They are the pumpers! Interesting take, but I find it completely thick headed to trust in a system, without any knowledge of the big picture, then expect there to be money for retirement once you get there. It's your lack of understand, your inability to open your eyes, and your continuing down the same path you have been taught that has closed your mind to what changes are happening. Never said wouldn't buy some other asset classes, just the game has changed, and time to adjust. If you want to continue playing the same ole game, then so be it. But you just lack the perception or ability to conceive concepts, inter workings, and preplanned happenings that are taking place, and it would be a waste of my time explaining them to you since you have your mind made up. I promise you'll be wrong though. Have a good day. ;D PS. Anyone that does want the truth, and see the light, might want to take a walk over to Decoy thread, read, learn, research, then ask questions. |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 22, 2011 23:08:41 GMT -5
Frank, the "mentally challenged", "unbelievably stupid" and "getting dumber by the day" comments were deleted by me.
People here either think Mid's off his rocker or they don't. Your comments aren't going to change anybody's mind on the matter.
Mid, your retirement game put me at a net worth of $5,496,392 by end-of-game. Frank Q is going to be bloody rich.
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Feb 22, 2011 23:22:16 GMT -5
Frank, the "mentally challenged", "unbelievably stupid" and "getting dumber by the day" comments were deleted by me. People here either think Mid's off his rocker or they don't. Your comments aren't going to change anybody's mind on the matter. Mid, your retirement game put me at a net worth of $5,496,392 by end-of-game. Frank Q is going to be bloody rich. - Virgil (Mod)Good news, I was trying to help Q-TIP out, maybe he should play and come back with his net worth!!! Just trying to help a friend out, that's all. |
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Post by verrip1 on Feb 22, 2011 23:37:17 GMT -5
Frank, the "mentally challenged", "unbelievably stupid" and "getting dumber by the day" comments were deleted by me. People here either think Mid's off his rocker or they don't. Your comments aren't going to change anybody's mind on the matter. Mid, your retirement game put me at a net worth of $5,496,392 by end-of-game. Frank Q is going to be bloody rich. - Virgil (Mod)Good news, I was trying to help Q-TIP out, maybe he should play and come back with his net worth!!! Just trying to help a friend out, that's all. BWHAHAHAHAHA. This bloody poster doesn't even know when he's being had! |
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Post by bimetalaupt on Feb 23, 2011 0:06:47 GMT -5
What is your risk quotient? If the stocks suddenly start a 10-15% correction, are you going to pull the plug? Investing to me is a LONG term proposition.....i NEVER expect to sell some of my positions. My kids...and hopefully their kids....will inherit them. I buy companies that i understand....that have the ability to withstand cyclical downturns....but in a good economy they will grow their profits. I dont like high flyers....as they tend to soar, they also tend to crash.....think Apple....great company....and one i totally missed because i thought it was a fad. Little did i know..... WE SOLD SOME ON THE 18. 12% PERCENT ON THE DJIA WOULD BE A NORMAL CORRECTION: AND A GREAT BUY SIGNAL. THE SAME EVENT WOULD CREATE A MOVE OF SOME 20% FOR THE RUSSELL 2000!!! BLUE CHIPS MAKE YOUR MORE MONEY OVER THE LONG TERM BUT REBALANCING OVER THE SHORT TERM WILL LOWER YOUR BETA AND RISE YOU SHARPE... Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=startinvesting&action=display&thread=3153&page=1#ixzz1EkP4WeBwI am hoping this starts the correction we need. Earnings were great for most s&p 500 companies, but basically we have been on an up trajectory for a while now But it is more likely just unrest from the ME.....and as soon as things start to stabalize, we should resume the climb The next week should be telling.... But as some say...it is a marathon...not a sprint    YES WE NEED TO CLEAN OUT THE OVER LEVERAGED HEDGE FUNDS WITH REAL MONEY INVESTORS...  I HAD TO POINT OUR THAT THE SS INVESTMENT TRUST IS A JOKE: MORE LIKE A "BERNIE MADOFF" INVESTMENT FUND FOR YOUR CHILDREN.. GERMANY, JAPAN AND FRANCE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT... WITH A 14 DAY FROM MONIES COMING INTO THE FRENCH FUND UNTIL IT IS PAID OUT THE FUND HAS A ZERO INFLATION RISK... THIS IS CALLED HEDGING.. WE ARE GETTING THERE BY YEAR 2036. JUST A THOUGHT, BRUCE  Attachments:
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 23, 2011 0:50:41 GMT -5
The real story is in the "All" column, Bruce. They say that the richest 20% (top quintile) holds close to 100% of all stocks and bonds. I'm wondering how contingent the nice-looking numbers for the top quintile are on stocks keeping their value up. |
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Post by vl on Feb 23, 2011 8:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by lifewasgood on Feb 23, 2011 8:13:39 GMT -5
Agree with you VL, could we throw in arrest and prosecute the fraudulent bastards.
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Post by mikec on Feb 23, 2011 10:26:26 GMT -5
So glad I sold EVERYTHING at last nights close......
Put everyting this morning into
Silver
Soy Beans
Sugar
My Physic says it is going to be a big year for the SSSSSSSSSs
Cant wait for the DOW to go down below 1000
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Post by usaone on Feb 23, 2011 10:31:16 GMT -5
That's only because you are mentally challenged. Lets see how many jobs get created if that actually happenned, which it won't. But what if this is the best buying for the years.. M3 is under-control but recovering!! From the huge losses in 2009-2010.. Bond prices did well today so its might be good to re-balance that risk-free (cash) into some risk.. Karma for you Bruce! ;D |
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Feb 23, 2011 10:51:30 GMT -5
Sure are, but compared to you guys I prefer mine in real life, not some pictures on a website so you can get your jollies off on. But, I'm currently not helping the less fortunate in that department as a wingman. Sorry guys you'll have to stare at Internet pictures while us real men actually know how to talk to the fairer sex. |
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Post by DuestDriftr on Feb 23, 2011 12:57:43 GMT -5
Speaking only for myself here, but the markets dropping the way they have the last couple days is nothing but good for me. I for one wish they'd drop faster so I can pick up more MCD/PFE/HNZ/KFT/WMT/KO/PM/DUK/etcetra at lower prices and higher dividend yields. Now, you start telling me that these companies are lowering their dividends and you'll get me to do a little more research. Until then, I couldn't be happier. FWIW I have decided to hold off a bit on the dividend reinvestments. I hope/expect that this April/May we will see even more downward movement in the markets and I'm willing to wait 3-9 months to try and take advantage of that. Not selling current dividend-earning positions, just not buying additional shares at current prices. Time'll tell if I was right or wrong.
Congratulations to anyone who has $$$ in Gold or Silver. Hope you take some profits at some point seeing as you're not going to be earning a dividend.
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Post by frankq on Feb 23, 2011 13:39:00 GMT -5
Frank, the "mentally challenged", "unbelievably stupid" and "getting dumber by the day" comments were deleted by me. People here either think Mid's off his rocker or they don't. Your comments aren't going to change anybody's mind on the matter. Mid, your retirement game put me at a net worth of $5,496,392 by end-of-game. Frank Q is going to be bloody rich. - Virgil (Mod)Fair enough Virgil. I think my comments were probably redundant as far as most out here are concerned. Sorry for stating the obvious. |
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Post by vl on Feb 23, 2011 14:13:26 GMT -5
Still tanking. Libyans took control of a major city today. Ghaddafi is demented. Now being accused of personally ordering the Lockerbee explosion. Does he have a nuke?
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Post by sangria on Feb 23, 2011 15:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by frankq on Feb 23, 2011 19:12:35 GMT -5
"But, I'm currently not helping the less fortunate in that department as a wingman. Sorry guys you'll have to stare at Internet pictures while us real men actually know how to talk to the fairer sex."
Talk is overrated young Grasshopper. Someday, you will learn of the more, uh.... personal pleasures that can be achieved. Until then, you will never be considered a Jedi, Luke.
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Post by vl on Feb 23, 2011 20:02:36 GMT -5
With the Wisconsin governor blabbing his true intentions and a bona fide link to the Koch brothers, kind of makes plenty of sense that even more money will be leaving the market in coming days. Gasoline skyrocketed UP 40+ cents in 24 hours at the pump without tanker refills-- that's a crime in most states. With a barrel of crude at a 28-month high, many many many oil grubbers will get trapped in the middle and go BUST.
What's in YOUR wallet?
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Post by bimetalaupt on Feb 23, 2011 22:27:11 GMT -5
Typical Democrat. Push everything to the financial limits in terms of benefits, etc and than bitch about it when others have to come in and clean up the mess their reckless spending and taxing has set in motion. Have you ever heard the phrase "When you assume something you make an Ass of U and Me? Keep your biases a bit more in control,eh?? Remember, nothing is as it seems or as you assume it to be. Have a nice whatever. It is all about assumption made at the time and the electricity of demand for the calculations. France did the same thing in the Mid to late 1950's.. Lead from the left in a major change in social insurance to keep the Saar lands from returning to Germany,, It did not work but France is left with a Social Insurance (Tier1) they can not afford at the current 62 years of age average retirement.. It is a world wide problem, ' Think of it, Just a Thought, Bruce.. aka Bi Metal Au Pt Attachments:
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Post by frankq on Feb 23, 2011 22:52:31 GMT -5
wxyz,
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Post by kman on Feb 23, 2011 23:47:11 GMT -5
Nice!!!! We should take a hard look at the benefit packages that the politicians have...What a deal they have.
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Post by kman on Feb 23, 2011 23:53:40 GMT -5
What's good for the goose..is good for those that get goosed.
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Post by comokate on Feb 23, 2011 23:58:02 GMT -5
I grew up in a "Union state" but moved away soon after high school. In the past 33 years since then I've lived in 4 states and traveled over most of the U.S. In the decades that have gone by, I have witnessed a change from people working together to raise the standards of all, to an "every-man-for-himself" mentality.
What many forget is that it was the blood, sweat, and sometimes deaths of the original labor union activists that set the standard for working conditions in the U.S. The wages, benefits and 40 hour work week standards of non-union workers were put into place/ pegged to union scale wages and bennies that the union members fought for.
It's kind of like the whole vaccination debate. Those too young to remember what it was like to have a friend/family member with whooping cough, polio, rubella, etc. People so quickly forget...
Union members were not "overpaid". What happened was they had cost of living raises through the years, that turned into decades, that everyone else lost out on.
The lapse in real wages was masked by the overuse to credit to bolster and prop up what was in reality a falling standard of living. Now that the real estate bubble burst and credit for John and Jane Doe has dried up, people are beginning to feel the reality of the income they lost through those years, voluntarily.
You think businesses that are willing to offshore American jobs and have foreign workers labor in unsafe conditions are going to offer you a 40 hour work week and benefits once they have killed all the US labor unions? Get ready to live in the world of your choosing.
The top 1% is having a field day getting richer while they encourage the masses to point fingers at each other for our economic woes, rather than look up to see where the blame really lies.
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Post by mikec on Feb 24, 2011 9:03:59 GMT -5
I hate getting into Union Debates...As bad as Religon and Politics
I am a union memeber 39 years IBEW
Unions are a necessary evil
As long as there are people out there who would pay you sub-standard wages they will be necessary.
Evil as they protect the bad worker as well as the good ones.
People in my line of work who are not capable or willing to work at a level i "feel" I do get the same pay and protections I enjoy...
That is the price we ALL pay for the first part. the fact that some would pay you peanuts if they could
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Post by decoy409 on Feb 24, 2011 12:56:58 GMT -5
Can we get some players from PPT in the house? The Red phone has had a answering machine on it for several days. Come on PPT! You can do it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 13:46:18 GMT -5
Unions are a necessary evil As long as there are people out there who would pay you sub-standard wages they will be necessary. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=3736&page=3#ixzz1Eu3Z4G4cThe worker "chooses" to work for the employer. If you are not paid a rate to which you believe you are worthy, leave. If enough people leave, there is no business...and then the employer will have to pay a higher rate to attract workers. Law of supply and demand works for wages also. Now that the real estate bubble burst and credit for John and Jane Doe has dried up, people are beginning to feel the reality of the income they lost through those years, voluntarily. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=3736&page=3#ixzz1Eu4BsIGVCredit is VERY available for those that are credit worthy. Credit has become less available to those in the lower and mid tier credit ratings. But even those are getting credit for cars again...because sub prime loans are on the rise. |
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I HAD TO POINT OUR THAT THE SS INVESTMENT TRUST IS A JOKE: MORE LIKE A "BERNIE MADOFF" INVESTMENT FUND FOR YOUR CHILDREN.. GERMANY, JAPAN AND FRANCE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT... WITH A 14 DAY FROM MONIES COMING INTO THE FRENCH FUND UNTIL IT IS PAID OUT THE FUND HAS A ZERO INFLATION RISK... THIS IS CALLED HEDGING.. WE ARE GETTING THERE BY YEAR 2036. 
