ANOTHER UPDATE- Sensitive e-mail

[Ava]

ANOTHER UPDATE-
The HR person called me last Monday, said the manager wanted to meet me.
I have my interview this coming Monday at 8:00 am. I talked to my current manager, who's being very supportive and promised to put a good word for me if they call him for references.
I also e-mailed someone who worked with me but transferred to this department a few months ago. He said the job is very similar to what I am currently doing, but with a few more tasks and responsibilities added to it. He also said the work environment is very good, and it's slow-paced, casual and friendly.
He also gave me tips on areas the interviewer is going to ask about (coverage and leverage, financial statements, etc.)
I'm very happy with the opportunity to meet the manager and get a shot at this job. It would also be a promotion, more money and a 5' commute instead of the 50' to an hour that I have now. Still, I don't want to get my hopes up too much since it's not a sure thing; it's just an interview.
The only thing that saddens me is that if this pans out I am comfortable in my current place, know everyone, like them, will miss them. I also have my current manager trained in my ways; will need to train a new one.
I am a little nervous to interview, and I'm generally uncomfortable with new people; takes me a while to feel good with someone new. Then there's the fear of the unknown (new job, new place, etc.). I am also super insecure because of my weight. Some people look me up and down disapprovingly when they meet me for the first time, like they are judging me. Makes me feel extremely uncomfortable. I hope this person is not one of them.
Keep your fingers crossed for me.  Oh, and any ideas for the "thanks for the interview" e-mail are welcome.



UPDATE
I sent the e-mail first thing Tuesday morning (we didn't work Monday for MLK).
Then I put the whole thing in the back of my head.
Well, lo and behold, I log in to our job website on Friday, and they published the same job but at an appropriate level for me. I am Grade 30, the job I didn't get was Grade 40, and now they are offering a Grade 35 job. The Grade 40 job is still listed also.  Guess what? I have all the requisites for the Grade 35 job, and I live 5 minutes away from that job location! My current commute is an hour each way. It also would be more $$$$$
I have already submitted my resume and cover letter for the Grade 35 job.
Now I have to send the manager another e-mail and attach my cover letter and resume so he receives it personally; one of the perks of being an internal candidate. 
I don't want to copy and paste the same e-mail I sent last week. This manager in charge of Grade 35 is not the same manager I dealt with last week, but they work together.
I'm talking about the e-mail where I introduced myself, not the one acknowledging the rejection.
How would you introduce yourself to a manager for an internal job?
I don't want to send the exact same message again.



Hi, guys;

I applied for an internal job and I received an e-mail on Friday by the manager explaining why I wasn't a good candidate.
He was very gentle and wrote me a long e-mail. I was going to answer him Friday but first, I was trying to come up with something appropriate that did not sound as if I was a sore loser (I am not, he gave me very valid arguments) and end up in a positive note with him, and second I got really busy on Friday. I want to answer him early Monday. English is my second language, so sometimes my meaning doesn't come out right. I have to be extra careful.
This is what I had in mind:

x,

Thank you for considering my application and taking the time to answer.
I understand that you are looking for a person with experience in the field, but I would definitely apply again if your department has an entry level position available in the future. 
I wish you find the right candidate for the job.
Sincerely,

Does this sound all right as an answer?

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

It sounds perfect - I wouldn't include the last sentence though. ("I wish you find the right candidate for the job").

[busymom]

The only change I would make, is, in the last sentence. Instead of "I wish (hope) you find the right candidate for the job.", perhaps say something like "If your first choice doesn't work out, I would still be interested in working for you."

I'll be interested to see what our friends here in HR & who own their own businesses would like to see in a response. 

Ava, good luck in your job search!

[ZaireinHD]

Jan 19, 2014 13:48:06 GMT -5 Ava said:

Hi, guys;

I applied for an internal job and I received an e-mail on Friday by the manager explaining why I wasn't a good candidate.
He was very gentle and wrote me a long e-mail. I was going to answer him Friday but first, I was trying to come up with something appropriate that did not sound as if I was a sore loser (I am not, he gave me very valid arguments) and end up in a positive note with him, and second I got really busy on Friday. I want to answer him early Monday. English is my second language, so sometimes my meaning doesn't come out right. I have to be extra careful.
This is what I had in mind:

x,

Thank you for considering my application and taking the time to answer.
I understand that you are looking for a person with experience in the field, but I would definitely apply again if your department has an entry level position available in the future. 
I wish  hope you find the right candidate for the job.
Sincerely,

Does this sound all right as an answer?

Suggestion:
Thank you for considering my application.
I understand that you are looking for a more experienced person.
However if a candidate is not found I am available for training.
In the meantime, I will look for an entry level within the field to apply for.
Sincerely,

I agree with busymom and change wish to hope.

[taz157]

Jan 19, 2014 13:57:27 GMT -5 busymom said:

The only change I would make, is, in the last sentence. Instead of "I wish (hope) you find the right candidate for the job.", perhaps say something like "If your first choice doesn't work out, I would still be interested in working for you."

I'll be interested to see what our friends here in HR & who own their own businesses would like to see in a response. 

Ava, good luck in your job search!

Yeah that.

[taz157]

Jan 19, 2014 14:14:21 GMT -5 ZaireinHD said:

Jan 19, 2014 13:48:06 GMT -5 Ava said:

Hi, guys;

I applied for an internal job and I received an e-mail on Friday by the manager explaining why I wasn't a good candidate.
He was very gentle and wrote me a long e-mail. I was going to answer him Friday but first, I was trying to come up with something appropriate that did not sound as if I was a sore loser (I am not, he gave me very valid arguments) and end up in a positive note with him, and second I got really busy on Friday. I want to answer him early Monday. English is my second language, so sometimes my meaning doesn't come out right. I have to be extra careful.
This is what I had in mind:

x,

Thank you for considering my application and taking the time to answer.
I understand that you are looking for a person with experience in the field, but I would definitely apply again if your department has an entry level position available in the future. 
I wish  hope you find the right candidate for the job.
Sincerely,

Does this sound all right as an answer?

Suggestion:
Thank you for considering my application.
I understand that you are looking for a more experienced person.
However if a candidate is not found I am available for training.
In the meantime, I will look for an entry level within the field to apply for.
Sincerely,

I agree with busymom and change wish to hope.

I like that too!

[Ava]

Yes, I agree that "hope" sounds better than "wish".
I will not include what someone suggested that I am available for training; he made quite clear he's looking for someone with experience at the moment.
Thanks for the good advice, and I'll send him my answer early Monday.

[Ava]

I added an update in the OP

[raeoflyte]

Excellent news ava! Good luck!

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[ZaireinHD]

hopefully the two hiring managers will talk and you will be recommended.


Hmmm....myself in this situation
yes definitely apply for the Grade 35 job.
I think I would tweak my introduction letter according to the advise given from the other hiring manager.
I would not want to give the same introduction letter thinking I may receive the same rejection results.

[Happy prose]

My fingers are crossed for you ava!

[Apple]

Crossing my fingers here too!

I'm horrible at wording things, so I'll leave the advice for someone else.  But, I'm hoping that you have already been talked about (in a good way) with the second manager.

[Tennesseer]

I would not worry about rewriting a new email message. Would you rewrite your resume just because someone else has already reviewed it?  Of course not.  The same goes for the introductory email to the new hiring manager.

Just make sure you use the correct hiring manager's name in the new email. Check the new email and then check it again before sending it to make sure you have the right person's name in it.

[Ava]

Just make sure you use the correct hiring manager's name in the new email. Check the new email and then check it again before sending it to make sure you have the right person's name in it.

You have no idea how many times I checked the cover letter before applying online to our jobs website 
You are right, I will just tweak it a little bit, and resend.
Thanks for all the good vibes. Getting this job would be the right move for me at this moment.
I don't want to get my hopes up too high, though, since you never know.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 25, 2014 17:46:03 GMT -5 Ava said:

Just make sure you use the correct hiring manager's name in the new email. Check the new email and then check it again before sending it to make sure you have the right person's name in it.

You have no idea how many times I checked the cover letter before applying online to our jobs website 
You are right, I will just tweak it a little bit, and resend.
Thanks for all the good vibes. Getting this job would be the right move for me at this moment.
I don't want to get my hopes up too high, though, since you never know.

I once had a co-worker who was writing an email to his boss and in the email he was trashing a company executive. He tapped the send key and immediately noticed he had sent the email to the executive he was trashing instead of his boss.  He unable to retrieve it because the executive had already opened and read it.

The executive made life uncomfortable for the co-worker for several months and she never let him forget it.

So it is good to check, double check and maybe even triple check to always have the right email recipient(s).

Good luck.

[TheOtherMe]

Good luck Ava.  

[NastyWoman]

Good luck Ava. I'll keep my fingers crossed for. This new position looks like it is perfect for you so remember to show HR that you know it. In other words show them self confidence

[Ava]

I posted another update in the op.

[Lizard Queen]

That's great news. Good luck!

[steph08]

Good luck!

[Apple]

Good luck!

Even if you aren't feeling it, try to be confident.  Before your interview, talk to someone who always makes you feel good about yourself, who can make you laugh, etc.  A quick phone call or text can do wonders, put you in the right attitude/frame of mind, and help you to come off better.  Even when you don't feel great about your weight (lately I understand that way more than I ever wanted to).

[resolution]

Good luck on your interview!

[mmhmm]

You, Ava, are fantastic!  Go into this interview knowing that.  Confidence is key, believe me.  If you're confident in yourself, and present that way, you'll do just fine.  You know you can do this job, and you know you're qualified to do this job.  Take that with you and give 'em all you got!