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Post by jkapp on Jan 12, 2014 13:32:51 GMT -5
All I'm shooting for is to outlive my parents...otherwise I'll have to listen to my mom nagging me about dying before her for eternity I doubt I'll live much past my 60's...my parents are doing pretty good so far in their late 60's, but my dad is already getting sick more often and it being more severe (several bouts with bronchitis and one with pneumonia last year). My dad's parents died in their early 60's and I tend to take after that side of the family. I'll either get cancer (already have had a precancerous nevus) or get a really bad sickness (weak lungs). So I figure I've got about 30-35 years left to live...I'm already betting on NOT ever receiving social security in my lifetime
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Post by lynnerself on Jan 12, 2014 13:40:15 GMT -5
I'm hoping for about 90. Most of my grandparents made it to near 90 with reasonable health and good metal status. However my parent both died of cancer in their early 70s. Live is a crap shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 13:53:08 GMT -5
Based on observation, I don't care to live past 75. Now maybe in the next 35 years, medical advancement pushes that to 80, but I'm not counting on it.
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Post by drivingaround on Jan 12, 2014 14:01:12 GMT -5
75 - 80 has my vote. I intend to do a significant amount of travel in my 60's, maybe even early 70's if healthy enough. By 75 I imagine feeling fortunate for having lived the life I did and experiences I was involved with so if my time ends shortly after that then okay. I do want DW to go first, I'm five years older, and she will have a not so good time if I'm first.
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Post by bcdfgh on Jan 12, 2014 14:26:35 GMT -5
80-90 to at least get my SS back. I'll sign up for SS as soon as I'm eligible even if I get much less than if I wait until the full retirement age. Have a sibling died before 50.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 12, 2014 14:38:24 GMT -5
I'm a predestination type of person - shit's gonna happen when shit's gonna happen.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2014 17:21:11 GMT -5
my mother will turn 90 in April, if she makes it... In spite of her Alz, I'd like to see her make it to 90. As far as I know my father is still kicking at 94..... My mom had late stage Alzheimer's disease. It wasn't the AD that got her (at 84), but a heart attack while she was sitting in a wheel chair waiting her turn for daily exercise.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 12, 2014 20:21:40 GMT -5
my mother will turn 90 in April, if she makes it... In spite of her Alz, I'd like to see her make it to 90. As far as I know my father is still kicking at 94..... My mom had late stage Alzheimer's disease. It wasn't the AD that got her (at 84), but a heart attack while she was sitting in a wheel chair waiting her turn for daily exercise.
I hope you don't hold it against me but sometimes the way pEEps post things causes me to laugh. I guess I have a sick sense of humor and probably shouldn't even send this.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2014 20:34:44 GMT -5
My mom had late stage Alzheimer's disease. It wasn't the AD that got her (at 84), but a heart attack while she was sitting in a wheel chair waiting her turn for daily exercise.
I hope you don't hold it against me but sometimes the way pEEps post things causes me to laugh. I guess I have a sick sense of humor and probably shouldn't even send this. I had ìntended as my last sentence to be 'Exercise kills.' but I didn't want it to appear I was making fun of her passing. So you are okay. She died suddenly the day before the 2008 elections. I have kidded in the past I pulled a 'Weekend At Bernies' with mom the day of the elections to make sure Obama got her vote.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 12, 2014 20:38:03 GMT -5
She died suddenly the day before the 2008 elections. I have kidded in the past I pulled a 'Weekend At Bernies' with mom the day of the elections to make sure Obama got her vote.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 12, 2014 22:57:11 GMT -5
Thirty. I am 54. SURPRISE! hehehe My real dad died at 50. I was really holding my breath! Mom died at 69. Grandma (her mom) turns 93 this year with her mind in perfectly working order but her body gave out. It's a crap shoot for me. But like others I'm making sure I will have enough money until I no longer care or can no longer remember.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jan 12, 2014 23:00:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure how old I want to be, but I expect to approach 100. Family members have reached 102, and my parents are still healthy at 73/83, and they both have older siblings that are amazingly healthy and active as they close in on 90 this year. DH has this idea that he won't live to see retirement, so saving is pointless. Um, what about me? He really has nothing to base this on - he's adopted, so he has no idea of his genetic background. I'm sure he is partially thinking of his (adopted) mom - she smoked, was obese, diabetic, had strokes when DH was a teen, quadruple bypass surgery... She lived to 54, her brother died at 40, their father in his thirties; clearly genetic predisposition to heart disease. Why can't DH look to his (adopted) father's example - ran marathons in his 40's, still active in his 70's now? One good thing that came from the FF training incident hospitalization this summer: the doctor that did the angio said his arteries were completely clear, and if DH ever did have a heart attack, it wouldn't be until he was 94, twice his current age!
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Post by tskeeter on Jan 13, 2014 15:49:17 GMT -5
I want to live long enough to get a free season ski pass.
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Post by milee on Jan 13, 2014 15:56:28 GMT -5
I want to live long enough to get a free season ski pass. Good point. At our yacht club, you only have to be a member for 50 years and then you get an honorary free lifetime membership. I've only got 42 more years to go! Woo hoo!
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Post by tskeeter on Jan 13, 2014 16:04:53 GMT -5
I want to live long enough to get a free season ski pass. Good point. At our yacht club, you only have to be a member for 50 years and then you get an honorary free lifetime membership. I've only got 42 more years to go! Woo hoo! Used to be that you had to be older than 70 to get a free pass. Now it's even older. I'm kind of planning on 90.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Jan 13, 2014 16:41:01 GMT -5
My dad died of liver cancer when he was 83. He had a newly qualified, very young nurse. The nurse said, you're old. Look around you, look at all the young people who are dying of cancer. You've lived your life, they haven't. My dad said. You are right, I am 83, and I have lived a good life. And it is a tragedy that these young people around me have been stricken with cancer. But, let me tell you something, some advice from a very old man. If you live to 83, and you are told that you are dying, I can guarantee you one thing: your only goal will be to make it to 84. When my dad told me and my sister about that conversation, I wanted to slap that beech from here to eternity. My wonderful dad talked me down, and in the end, I never even bothered to find out her name. That is a horrible thing to tell a patient, no matter what your age. And dying of liver cancer is not a cake walk in candyland. I'm sorry for your loss. What people say around others when people or dying or grieving is unfathomable to me. Like telling a mother who had a miscarriage that her baby wasn't meant to be. What? Of course it was. It was her baby. I would have done more than slapped that nurse, I would have reported it to her manager.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 13, 2014 16:44:42 GMT -5
I want to die before my mind goes. Most of the family keeps their marbles as they age, and the few that are losing them started doing so pretty late. We aren't especially long lived though, late 70s to late 80s is when we go. Pretty average. I have zero desire to get really really old. All wizened up like an old tree root, barely able to move, list of health problems a mile long... no thanks. Doesn't look fun at all.
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Post by Tiny on Jan 13, 2014 17:00:05 GMT -5
I don't want to live to any particular age... I just don't want my live to consist of "dealing with my health" and deciding what to watch on TV. I've witnessed quite afew older folks spend 5 or more years with doctor's appointments, hospital visists, slow loss of memory, being on deaths door a few times (but the marvels of modern medicine brought them back), with pretty much the big decisions of the day being what's for dinner and 'do I feel good enough to watch alittle TV' before bed. I don't really want to live to 90 if the last 10 years of life are spent going from doctor appt to appt, ordering medication, and wondering when the next trip to the ER is going to happen. I'm becoming envious of the people who I know who have died suddenly after their 40's and while still doing stuff (work, family, stuff they liked to do). Yeah, it's a shock to everyone but I have to admit it's not a bad way to go.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 13, 2014 17:02:45 GMT -5
I don't know how long I want to live. I expect I'll make it to at least 100. 3 of my 4 Grandparents made it to 80 with no major health problems (well none that really effected the quality of life). All 4 lived to 80. My dad's dad did have Alzheimer's and it sucked to watch him no longer recognize any of us. It seemed like because I was the youngest, I was recognized the least. He would also do things like have incontinence. So, he wet himself and remembered to take his clothes off, but would forget to put clean clothes on. I definitely saw more of him than I ever wanted at age 12. Anyway, he died at 81, my dad's mom was 2 weeks short of her 90th birthday. My mom's dad died at 87. My mom's mom is still kicking at 89.5. She'll be 90 this summer. My parents are still in really good health and very active in their mid 60s.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 13, 2014 17:08:35 GMT -5
Why do so many of you expect to live to at least 100 when your parents and grandparents all died in their 80s or 90s? Their genetics are your genetics. If they all smoked and you don't or something I guess I can see it, but keep in mind that they all ate real food, and you live in a time when processed crap and sugar are put in everything, so that might take some years off of the end of your life. More car exhaust and crap in the air you breathe. That shit can't be healthy.
I just don't see us tacking on another decade over our parents in one generation.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jan 13, 2014 17:26:06 GMT -5
It's hard to look at my family history and estimate how long I have. If we're strictly going by ages, my chances of making it to 70 aren't that good. Both of my maternal grandparents died in their mid 60's, and my paternal grandmother died in her 50's. My paternal grandfather lasted into his mid 80's.
Though, if you stop and look at it, the reasons they died may or may not affect me. One of my grandmothers died of breast cancer, which I'm not likely to get, and the other died of lung cancer from smoking, which I don't smoke. My maternal grandfather died of a stroke, and my paternal grandfather (the one who lived well into his 80's) died of complications from heart disease.
Other, extended relatives usually seem to live into their 80's or so.
Heart disease clearly runs in my family, and I'm sure that will get me if I'm not careful (and maybe eventually even if I am careful). I'll have to watch out for that, but if I can manage to keep that under control, I think my chances of living well into my 80's or 90's are pretty good. Both of my parents are in their 60's with minimal health issues, so we'll see.
As for how long I want to live? Hard to say. I can't say I have a burning desire to live much longer than the average. If I make it to my mid 70's, that's good enough for me.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 13, 2014 17:38:38 GMT -5
2% of non-smokers get lung cancer. 6% of smokers get lung cancer. Usually reported as a 300% increased risk of lung cancer because big numbers and percentages sound scarier. There's actually no way to determine how many of the smokers would have gotten lung cancer anyway because they were pre-disposed to getting it. The way health organizations determine the statistics is that if a person is a smoker pretty much no matter what they die from, unless it's blunt trauma from an automobile accident or something, gets reported as smoking related. In some cases it's legitimate, maybe even in most cases, but when you die at 90 of a heart attack there's no way to tell whether the smoking actually caused it or you had a heart attack because you're roughly the same age as dirt and your body is giving out.
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Post by tskeeter on Jan 13, 2014 18:22:37 GMT -5
Why do so many of you expect to live to at least 100 when your parents and grandparents all died in their 80s or 90s? Their genetics are your genetics. If they all smoked and you don't or something I guess I can see it, but keep in mind that they all ate real food, and you live in a time when processed crap and sugar are put in everything, so that might take some years off of the end of your life. More car exhaust and crap in the air you breathe. That shit can't be healthy. I just don't see us tacking on another decade over our parents in one generation. According to DW's Doc, each generation has been living about 10 years longer than their parents. Considering that DW's Gran lived to 102, it would put 120 into the realm of possible. You make a good point about whether or not the amount of processed food in our diets, air pollution, and the like will have a significant effect on our life expectancy. But for those of us that are older than you are, many of us grew up with fresh vegetables from the garden, lived in small towns, and played outside all day instead of playing video games. In our formative childhood years, pretty much everything was organic because that was all our parents could afford. Me, I'll live to be 100. It's you, I'm not so sure about. Another thing to consider is access to high quality nutrition. It's really only been since about the late 1940's that food supplies, even in the US, have been adequate to ensure that pretty much everyone had plenty to eat. One of the indicators of high levels of nutrition that I watch is how tall people are. Surplus nutrition seems to translate into people being bigger (but not necessarily fatter). When I was in high school, a girl who was six feet tall was extraordinarily tall. I only knew one all the time I was growing up. Today, almost any high school looks like a good share of the female student body are on the girl's volleyball or basketball team. Similar increases in height can be observed among the boys. To me, that indicates that kids are getting plenty of the right things to eat. And, having enough of the right things to eat has historically translated into living longer.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 13, 2014 18:31:06 GMT -5
I personally won't. I'm pretty certain of that. I smoked for years, I drink, I eat red meat, sea food, junk food on occasion, and I don't exercise as much as I should.
What percentage of my birth year cohort will? Beats me. I'm guessing the percentage will be far lower than the percentage of current 1981 babies that think they're going to live to 100 though.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jan 13, 2014 19:32:26 GMT -5
Why do so many of you expect to live to at least 100 when your parents and grandparents all died in their 80s or 90s? Their genetics are your genetics. If they all smoked and you don't or something I guess I can see it, but keep in mind that they all ate real food, and you live in a time when processed crap and sugar are put in everything, so that might take some years off of the end of your life. More car exhaust and crap in the air you breathe. That shit can't be healthy. I just don't see us tacking on another decade over our parents in one generation. Well, my parents have outlived their parents, and my mom & dad are both second youngest (of 9 & 6, respectively). They both have the majority of their siblings still alive, and each have one approaching 90 this year. My maternal grandfather died the youngest, at 60, but it was a freak thing that modern medicine could now deal with. The other 3 died at ~72. And then there is that great aunt that made it to 102...
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 13, 2014 22:06:26 GMT -5
Why do so many of you expect to live to at least 100 when your parents and grandparents all died in their 80s or 90s? Their genetics are your genetics. If they all smoked and you don't or something I guess I can see it, but keep in mind that they all ate real food, and you live in a time when processed crap and sugar are put in everything, so that might take some years off of the end of your life. More car exhaust and crap in the air you breathe. That shit can't be healthy. I just don't see us tacking on another decade over our parents in one generation. Well one of my Grandparents is still living (at 89.5) and my parents are "only" in their 60s and going strong. So, I have no idea how many years over my parents (if any) 100 would be. It may be less. But I have no reason to believe that my 60s and 70s I won't be healthy and active as my grandparents were and my parents so far are. Sure my Grandparents may have eaten more "real" food than me. But both of my Grandfathers smoked for like years. Basically, I'm using 100 as the point to gage how long to theoretically work (like do I really want to retire at 55 and have a 45 year retirement, and the answer is no) and for how much to save (hopefully). On the flip side, I will consider myself very fortunate if DH lives to see both of our kids graduate from high school. He has smoked for over 30 years now and has a family history of cancer. His dad died at 58 when DH was in high school. He would have to make it to 66 to see DD graduate high school. I don't feel like the odds are in his favor.
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