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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 13, 2013 0:49:17 GMT -5
A question to any wordsmiths out there.
A tool I'm using to edit code is informing me that it's unable to "abstragate methods at the specified depth". "Methods" in this case just refers to named bits of code that have specific functions, and "depth" roughly refers to how complex the methods are.
Does anyone have any idea what "abstragate" means, or what this thing is trying to tell me?
I've Googled the term and it appears sporadically around the Internet, albeit in contexts where it's difficult to infer its meaning. Unless it's a grievous misspelling, it isn't an official English word.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 13, 2013 0:53:12 GMT -5
I found absolve or remove from, but I don't know for sure.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 13, 2013 1:03:02 GMT -5
I found absolve or remove from, but I don't know for sure.
"Remove" seems to be the gist of the uses I saw too. The problem is that it doesn't make sense in this context. This particular tool doesn't remove methods, and in any case "remove" is always the term used to denote removal in programming environments. "Remove" is not only a standard term, it carries very specific set theoretic meaning. The only reason you wouldn't use it in a programming environment is if the operation you're referring to is in some way fundamentally different from canonical "removal". I don't know if that makes any sense to you. |
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Post by Apple on Nov 13, 2013 1:03:47 GMT -5
It sounds like a butchered form of "Abstraction". Like they turned it into a verb and used a "g" instead of a "c". So, maybe it doesn't have access to the code at that level. Just the "black box" form.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 13, 2013 1:07:02 GMT -5
It sounds like a butchered form of "Abstraction". Like they turned it into a verb and used a "g" instead of a "c". So, maybe it doesn't have access to the code at that level. Just the "black box" form. *lol*  Maybe. I find it curious. It does pop up consistently enough that it appears to be a "real" word, but barely. Almost as though people are mashing verbs like "abstract", "abrogate", etc. into what they think is a word.  |
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Post by Apple on Nov 13, 2013 1:18:27 GMT -5
Kind of like "I graduated" instead of "I graduated from..." Use it often enough and it becomes acceptable  |
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 13, 2013 1:21:20 GMT -5
I seen it used a lot on deviantart.com forum so maybe it's an artist thing.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 13, 2013 1:47:22 GMT -5
I'd assume that "abstragate" might mean a method of abstracting/integrating. Does that make sense to you Virgil?
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 13, 2013 5:42:52 GMT -5
No clue, Virgil. It's not a word I've ever seen.  |
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Post by dannylion on Nov 13, 2013 9:51:36 GMT -5
Is it possible the originator is Russian? The Russian word for "to abstract" is "abstragirovat'". Someone recognizing the cognate might not have known how to render it properly in English and just slapped a common English ending onto the root of the Russian verb.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Nov 13, 2013 10:34:54 GMT -5
...or it's Chinglish... like the hot poop soup menu items' pix we pass around online... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 11:00:58 GMT -5
Maybe it's a Simpson's word...like "embiggens or cromulet".  |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 13, 2013 11:20:56 GMT -5
Is it possible the originator is Russian? The Russian word for "to abstract" is "abstragirovat'". Someone recognizing the cognate might not have known how to render it properly in English and just slapped a common English ending onto the root of the Russian verb. It's very possible. I see a lot of Slavic names on the development team associated with the tool. The only problems with the theory are that the same team uses the verb "abstract" in several places (hence they're obviously aware of it), and "abstract" has a very specific meaning in this programming context that isn't applicable to this tool. But the resemblance to the Russian word is too uncanny. I think you may have solved the mystery. The programmer who wrote it may be trying to use it as an ad hoc replacement for "abstract the structure of, and anonymize", and since "abstract" already has a defined meaning in this context, he simply borrowed the Russian equivalent and put in a phonetic translation. |
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Post by wyouser on Nov 13, 2013 11:29:06 GMT -5
Its a new filtering system of the NSA monitoring your computor usage. It is based on an older Russian KGB idea...so if you can find the right guy to "bribe" they will open the "gate" a little wider to let your computor inquiries flow a bit faster. You know the motto: WE BE WATCHIN YA...  |
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Nov 13, 2013 16:47:42 GMT -5
You've been out hiking, Rachets. Time to update your thread for us living vicariously.
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I'm ready, I vahnt to abstragate something. And quickly.
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