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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 8, 2013 15:41:38 GMT -5
personally, i think he is insane to keep this job, even though i don't give a damn about his drug use.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:47:19 GMT -5
personally, i think he is insane to keep this job, even though i don't give a damn about his drug use. You don't think crack is a big deal? I think the effects are well documented enough to accuse him of a lack of ability and judgement. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 8, 2013 15:54:34 GMT -5
personally, i think he is insane to keep this job, even though i don't give a damn about his drug use. You don't think crack is a big deal? I think the effects are well documented enough to accuse him of a lack of ability and judgement. i don't think casual drug use is of any concern to the general public. what he should be judged on is whether he is erratic. i think that is fairly well established at this point. but i would say that the fact that he is erratic is the cause of his drug use, not a symptom of it. i prefer my drug users to be less erratic.  |
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 16:01:31 GMT -5
DJ, Ford has always been hyper erratic to the point of it being a joke.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 8, 2013 16:14:26 GMT -5
Sorry, but when the Mayor is ranting about murdering someone in a most vicious manner, I'd say there's a problem. The guy's nuts.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 8, 2013 16:29:00 GMT -5
He's definitely out of control - it's disturbing seeing/hearing his rantings - and then his denials and back-peddling every time he's confronted.
A loose cannon like that shouldn't be in charge of the City at this point - he should be getting treatment - not only for the alcohol/drugs but he should also have a mental evaluation. He just doesn't act like a rational, sane person.
The best thing he could do for himself (AND The City of Toronto) right now - is to step aside and slip quietly out the back door - so the City can get back to normal business - and the furor he's caused can die down.
The television news and late-night talk shows are having a field-day with him - not only here, but south of the border (Letterman, Leno, Fallon, etc etc). He's a laughing stock - and an embarrassment to himself AND his City. He's not doing anyone a favor by by hanging around and refusing to take responsibility for his behavior/actions.
He's a whacko.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 17:13:04 GMT -5
Sorry, but when the Mayor is ranting about murdering someone in a most vicious manner, I'd say there's a problem. The guy's nuts.
Yeah I so freaking agree.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 17:16:35 GMT -5
He's definitely out of control - it's disturbing seeing/hearing his rantings - and then his denials and back-peddling every time he's confronted.
A loose cannon like that shouldn't be in charge of the City at this point - he should be getting treatment - not only for the alcohol/drugs but he should also have a mental evaluation. He just doesn't act like a rational, sane person.
The best thing he could do for himself (AND The City of Toronto) right now - is to step aside and slip quietly out the back door - so the City can get back to normal business - and the furor he's caused can die down.
The television news and late-night talk shows are having a field-day with him - not only here, but south of the border (Letterman, Leno, Fallon, etc etc). He's a laughing stock - and an embarrassment to himself AND his City. He's not doing anyone a favor by by hanging around and refusing to take responsibility for his behavior/actions.
He's a whacko.
He's a massive liability to not only the city of Toronto, but the province of Ontario, and our country of Canada. Ford is a massive embarrassment, but he's never been known to be quiet, he's a loud mouthed abusive schmuck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 17:23:37 GMT -5
You don't think crack is a big deal? I think the effects are well documented enough to accuse him of a lack of ability and judgement. i don't think casual drug use is of any concern to the general public. what he should be judged on is whether he is erratic. i think that is fairly well established at this point. but i would say that the fact that he is erratic is the cause of his drug use, not a symptom of it. i prefer my drug users to be less erratic. Crack and casual drug use...not things I expected to be in the same sentence. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 18:02:32 GMT -5
Him admitting to taking an illegal drug while drunk isn't enough? Here in the states "I was really drunk your honor" isn't a valid legal defense. Really? Wow that is amazing. I can't remember it so it doesn't count eh!? is totally a fer sure defense here ya hoser! |
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 18:21:44 GMT -5
The thing is too, Ford has gone on diets and things with the city watching and he fell off that wagon with just that. His brother is saying he'll go away for a couple weeks, well hell I do hope it ain't like his weight loss stuff. A couple weeks ain't enough for a crack addict or an alcoholic. I hope his brother's couple weeks is poly-speak for folks he ain't coming back.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 8, 2013 19:00:35 GMT -5
I don't think a couple of weeks is going to help the individual I've seen in these videos. It's going to take a good deal longer than that, and that's IF a change can be made. He has to want it, and I don't see a whole lot of honest contrition from this guy. He's waaaay off the deep end.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 19:03:54 GMT -5
I don't think a couple of weeks is going to help the individual I've seen in these videos. It's going to take a good deal longer than that, and that's IF a change can be made. He has to want it, and I don't see a whole lot of honest contrition from this guy. He's waaaay off the deep end.
Yeah really agree with you. He needs to totally quit the Toronto Mayors job and go into long term care. His mom thinks all his issues is cause Ford is overweight, like really , geez.
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 8, 2013 19:06:15 GMT -5
Being overweight is only one of his problems, as I see it, and it certainly isn't the worst of them. I'd say being a roaring drunk, peeing on trees in the park, and ranting about murdering a fellow human being in a depraved and excessively violent way all outweigh his girth (pun intended).
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 8, 2013 19:25:30 GMT -5
Being overweight is only one of his problems, as I see it, and it certainly isn't the worst of them. I'd say being a roaring drunk, peeing on trees in the park, and ranting about murdering a fellow human being in a depraved and excessively violent way all outweigh his girth (pun intended).
Yup and add to that list crack & drug addict. Wow we got ourselves a real winner right here in our Mayor's chair.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 8, 2013 19:49:07 GMT -5
The bloating is probably due to the excessive boozing - and the cocaine use was probably his idea of a quick weight loss/diet plan. 
Even his eyes are just blank and cold - not even a flicker of remorse or contrition.
If he was in his right mind, he'd resign his role of Mayor while he's ahead and possibly save what little dignity he may have left - though I think that well ran dry several months ago.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 8, 2013 22:52:13 GMT -5
He's definitely out of control - it's disturbing seeing/hearing his rantings - and then his denials and back-peddling every time he's confronted.
that is the part that bothers me the most. he openly lies to cover his ass until there is a huge amount of evidence against him, and THEN he admits. it is no way to conduct yourself, even for the average citizen. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 8, 2013 23:05:52 GMT -5
i don't think casual drug use is of any concern to the general public. what he should be judged on is whether he is erratic. i think that is fairly well established at this point. but i would say that the fact that he is erratic is the cause of his drug use, not a symptom of it. i prefer my drug users to be less erratic. Crack and casual drug use...not things I expected to be in the same sentence. all drugs can be used casually. crack is no exception. i have no reason to believe that Ford is lying about this particular aspect of his use. if he were, there would be far more evidence than one stray video. even heroin only has a 23% addiction rate, and it is more addictive than crack. in other words, over 80% of crack users never become addicted. |
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Post by swamp on Nov 18, 2013 20:22:34 GMT -5
The guy obviously has addiction and mental health issues. We are watching him crash and burn. Very sad.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 18, 2013 20:58:03 GMT -5
This is new to you guys? Any time there's a political scandal, riot, or national embarrassment for Canada, your newsmedia is on it like stink on cheese. I'd criticize you for it, but the truth is that the US's scandals and blunders are routinely fodder for Canadian newsmedia. It seems to be the way of the world, pointing and laughing at your neighbour as he twirls around his yard howling and trying to detach the pitbull from his butt.  |
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Post by chiver78 on Nov 18, 2013 21:02:51 GMT -5
The guy obviously has addiction and mental health issues. We are watching him crash and burn. Very sad.  I hope whatever happens, he gets the help he clearly needs. |
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Post by Malarky on Nov 18, 2013 21:11:29 GMT -5
Maybe we could pit your crackhead mayor against our delusional president?
Oh wait, I meant to play nice in the sandbox...
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 18, 2013 21:14:04 GMT -5
*chuckle* Looks to me like the whole world has its eye on this one, Virgil, not just your neighbor to the south. |
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 18, 2013 21:17:44 GMT -5
This is new to you guys? ... Nope. There is a whole already existing thread dedicated to Mayor Ford on the Current Events board. Might this be combined with it? Yes, there is, billis. I'd forgotten about that thread. It's probably a good idea to combine them to maintain continuity. Besides, this really does fit better in Current Affairs than in P&M. I'll merge the threads. mmhmm, P&M Moderator |
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 18, 2013 21:33:52 GMT -5
US MSM News Daily
"All the News that's Fit to Entertain!"
CANADIAN MAYOR IS CRACKHEAD
Late Nite Comedians Go Nuts, Make Crack Jokes
pp. 1-13 EXCLUSIVE
Also
US public debt flies past 20 trillion
surveillance drone crashes into mall; kills 30
Fed buys $8 trillion in Spanish junk bonds
18 US soldiers blown up in Afghanistan, sent home in boxes
Sports on Page E10
Is your dog stupid? Page F15
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 18, 2013 21:40:23 GMT -5
I did smoke crack. once. but it's ok cause I was in an alcoholic blackout. who wants a ride home? what an excuse. gotta love the guy  he is an F-ing rock star. i am totally engrossed by his loserness. |
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 18, 2013 22:13:44 GMT -5
I watched some of this today when he was charging around, geez he's so freaking lost it.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Nov 18, 2013 22:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 18, 2013 22:41:18 GMT -5
Yeah I watched it and it was pretty bad.
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