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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Oct 30, 2013 10:55:59 GMT -5
The lady is an idiot, no doubt about it, but I have to admit I see several kids every year at our door that really don't need a bag of candy weight wise.
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Post by emma1420 on Oct 30, 2013 10:58:04 GMT -5
I agree with her that it takes an entire community to solve the obesity epidemic, but this type of thing is vicious, cruel, and completely unnecessary. This will probably make the problem worse rather than better.
If she really wants to help kids with childhood obesity she could volunteer for a group like Girls on the Run or other similar groups that promote physical activity and healthy eating. You know actually do something positive rather than being a petty cruel bitch.
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Post by busymom on Oct 30, 2013 10:59:48 GMT -5
Hey Dark, do you sell any little toys for Halloween? We think we've found you a customer in the Dakotas...
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Oct 30, 2013 11:02:16 GMT -5
I have lots of little toys. Gotta have stuff for kids to come in and buy with allowance and tooth fairy money.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Oct 30, 2013 11:21:08 GMT -5
The lady is an idiot, no doubt about it, but I have to admit I see several kids every year at our door that really don't need a bag of candy weight wise. And you have no clue if that kid is eating it all that day or spreads it out and makes it last until Christmas.
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2013 11:21:55 GMT -5
The lady is an idiot, no doubt about it, but I have to admit I see several kids every year at our door that really don't need a bag of candy weight wise. And you have no clue if that kid is eating it all that day or spreads it out and makes it last until Christmas. Or if mom ate it all.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Oct 30, 2013 11:22:58 GMT -5
Even if your child is overweight and you are doing your best to help them get to a healthy place, is it all that bad, that for one friggin night, they get to be like other kids and not have to worry about it? Who here hasn't been on a diet and cheated once in awhile? Yes. I know you shouldn't let your child get to that point in the first place, but I have a feeling it sort of slips up on you. I have a friend who has a little girl (7) who is overweight. I think she just sort of didn't notice the first few pounds and then the next few....and now she has an overweight child. She didn't do it on purpose and she's doing her best to correct her mistakes. Give the kid a break for one dang night.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Oct 30, 2013 11:24:26 GMT -5
And you have no clue if that kid is eating it all that day or spreads it out and makes it last until Christmas. Or if mom ate it all. There's that too. Seriously, the kid in my house with a weight issue makes it last until Christmas and that's after it's shared with her older brother who doesn't trick or treat. (willingly even!) The underweight one will eat until he's sick and make you hide it from him so he won't get up way early or in the middle of the night and eat some more.
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2013 11:24:36 GMT -5
Even if your child is overweight and you are doing your best to help them get to a healthy place, is it all that bad, that for one friggin night, they get to be like other kids and not have to worry about it? Who here hasn't been on a diet and cheated once in awhile? Yes. I know you shouldn't let your child get to that point in the first place, but I have a feeling it sort of slips up on you. I have a friend who has a little girl (7) who is overweight. I think she just sort of didn't notice the first few pounds and then the next few....and now she has an overweight child. She didn't do it on purpose and she's doing her best to correct her mistakes. Give the kid a break for one dang night. Or the kid was born fat, was a chubby baby, a chubby toddler, and when the kid is out of your sight, eats everything they can get their hands on. My kid appears to be lacking the "appetite off" button.
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2013 11:29:31 GMT -5
I have one overweight kid and one normal sized kid. Believe me, I am very well aware that my child is too heavy and I am attempting address it while also not giving the kid food issues. I would punch this bitch in the throat if my kid got that letter. DS was overweight as a child, DD was not. I tried my best to get DS more physically active, and to eat healthier - but his metabolism and appetite did not match. there were almost no treats or snacks at home - but out in the world, he likely got a hold of some. Going trick or treating and getting this letter - I can't imagine the pain he would have borne. He was teased mercilessly as it was, and he's been normal weighted for 5 or more years and still has no self confidence at all. No - he never really did anything different - he just got thin....so who knows why? I soooo hope DD thins out. I try. I really try. We talk about healthy choices, and food is good fuel for your body, and I put her in lots of activities, and go for walks, and dance with her, but it seems to do absolutely no good. She looooooooooooooves food. loves it. she is 6 and like asparagus, crab legs, lobster bisque, alfredo, prime rib, risotto, and other "adult" foods. Of course, she also thinks McDonald's is awesome, so she still has that "kid" palate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 11:39:18 GMT -5
I have one overweight kid and one normal sized kid. Believe me, I am very well aware that my child is too heavy and I am attempting address it while also not giving the kid food issues. I would punch this bitch in the throat if my kid got that letter. DS was overweight as a child, DD was not. I tried my best to get DS more physically active, and to eat healthier - but his metabolism and appetite did not match. there were almost no treats or snacks at home - but out in the world, he likely got a hold of some. Going trick or treating and getting this letter - I can't imagine the pain he would have borne. He was teased mercilessly as it was, and he's been normal weighted for 5 or more years and still has no self confidence at all. No - he never really did anything different - he just got thin....so who knows why? My brother would get chunky, have a growth spurt and stretch out, then chunk up again. That went on all through grade/high school. He's 38 now and a testosterone fueled body builder without an ounce of fat on him. He's just solid muscle. I think older son is doing the same thing. He was skinny until age 6 or 7 and is then started piling on the pounds and no height. This past year (he's 11) he probably grew 4 inches without adding any weight, but he's still overweight and so hard to keep active because he hates sports. He's a horrible eater too. Dairy and carbs are what he'd live off of if I let him. His brother eats everything and prefers fruits and vegetables.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 30, 2013 11:47:22 GMT -5
DS was overweight as a child, DD was not. I tried my best to get DS more physically active, and to eat healthier - but his metabolism and appetite did not match. there were almost no treats or snacks at home - but out in the world, he likely got a hold of some. Going trick or treating and getting this letter - I can't imagine the pain he would have borne. He was teased mercilessly as it was, and he's been normal weighted for 5 or more years and still has no self confidence at all. No - he never really did anything different - he just got thin....so who knows why? I soooo hope DD thins out. I try. I really try. We talk about healthy choices, and food is good fuel for your body, and I put her in lots of activities, and go for walks, and dance with her, but it seems to do absolutely no good. She looooooooooooooves food. loves it. she is 6 and like asparagus, crab legs, lobster bisque, alfredo, prime rib, risotto, and other "adult" foods. Of course, she also thinks McDonald's is awesome, so she still has that "kid" palate. My sister also has this problem with one of her 4 kids. 3/4 are normal or very slender and one really needs to lose weight. But she's now an adolescent and my sister is walking a very fine line about trying to get her to make better choices about food and NOT making food an issue. But it's really difficult when she sees her siblings hogging out on everything in sight and she just can't eat like that.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 30, 2013 11:51:10 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Oct 30, 2013 11:51:56 GMT -5
NY also provides BMI warnings to parents from the school nurse. Like I don't know already.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 12:00:22 GMT -5
Sure! Chocolate is still safe to eat even if it's got that white coating on it.
ETA: Tres frugal, BTW!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 30, 2013 12:00:30 GMT -5
See, I was one of those kids and then young adults that ate whatever, whenever and I am the most not active person you'll ever meet. Up until I hit 30, I pretty much had a perfect body look wise. But! I had friends who looked "fatter" than me, but were much more flexible and bendy, had much higher endurance for physical activity, and really were much healthier than me. Looks can be very VERY deceiving. A friend of mine has a 9yr old girl who is really fat, does binge eating and has major issues. She has had her in therapy, they are working on it, but the girl is still fat. She is the sweetest and kindest child. Can you imagine her going ToT and getting this kind of letter
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 30, 2013 12:01:34 GMT -5
NY also provides BMI warnings to parents from the school nurse. Like I don't know already. That's what the counselors against this were saying to the school. Those parents who care are already trying to do things because it's not exactly unknown that their kids are overweight. Those who don't aren't going to do anything anyway, and all that the school is doing is embarrassing the students in front of their peers.
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Post by greeniis10 on Oct 30, 2013 12:08:39 GMT -5
Swamp, that is definitely a tough situation you're dealing with, but kudos to you for: 1. Acknowledging it and NOT turning it into more than what it is. Your DD is young and has lots of growing to do. 2. Knowing that is a "faulty" appetite switch but appreciating her love of food. Seriously, one of the best things a girl who struggles with her weight can have is an understanding, supportive mom! I can't speak for everyone, of course, but that is a big deal to me.
As far as the idiot lady in the article, what does SHE look like?? Stupid idea on her part; she must have ulterior motives or something. I mean, is this a new idea for her? Did she do this last year? Why now all of a sudden? Eh, pretty irrelevent anyway. Her loss.
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Post by movingforward on Oct 30, 2013 12:08:56 GMT -5
This lady is purely evil IMO. Her intentions appear to be more out to hurt people rather than help them... she might as well say hey kid you are fat and don't deserve to enjoy doing the things other children get to do... might as well tell them they can't eat a Thanksgiving meal either. Also, no making Christmas cookies... the other kids can because they aren't fat but you are so you don't deserve any joy in life. Hell, she'd probably be happy sticking a sign in the window of a restaurant saying they don't serve overweight people. What a freaking bitch...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 12:15:14 GMT -5
Do you think this b!tch would be more or less hated if she gave out letters about how Halloween was an evil holiday that went against Christianity and those parents should be teaching their kids the values of Christ instead of celebrating the darkness of the devil.
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Post by movingforward on Oct 30, 2013 12:16:22 GMT -5
Do you think this b!tch would be more or less hated if she gave out letters about how Halloween was an evil holiday that went against Christianity and those parents should be teaching their kids the values of Christ instead of celebrating the darkness of the devil. Bitch either way IMO but I suppose there are some that might support the later - perhaps the same fools that were picketing Harry Potter
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 30, 2013 12:17:02 GMT -5
I was one of those teachers who hated having to give out BMI scores. Parents of fat kids know it already, do I really need to send home this letter? I also had skinny DS and chunky DD. That was fun, not. She had to be sneaking food somewhere but I never figured out where.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 30, 2013 12:20:24 GMT -5
This is simply a small-scale implementation of what Mayor Bloomberg tried to do on a state-wide scale in NY. Hand out notes (cease and desist sales orders, in Mr. Bloomberg's case) saying "You're too fat and too irresponsible to deserve that."
Not only that, this woman's approach is more targeted, more advisory (i.e. less binding), and more "hands on" in the sense that she has to look the people in the eye when she calls them fat and irresponsible.
Should we blame these people for trying to make the world a better place?
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Post by movingforward on Oct 30, 2013 12:24:26 GMT -5
There are various pro-active things this lady could do as opposed to handing out hateful letters and if she really thinks that some older kids aren't going to open this letter and read it themselves then she is freaking crazy. I don't know that it matters too much because like someone else said people probably know who she is and will avoid the house like the plague.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 30, 2013 12:31:02 GMT -5
Or the kid was born fat, was a chubby baby, a chubby toddler, and when the kid is out of your sight, eats everything they can get their hands on. My kid appears to be lacking the "appetite off" button. Do you think PCOS plays into this? I have it. I also have a DD like your. She's overweight, but she's a solid girl, too. It would be nice for her to shed a few. We'll get her in more physical activities this winter. She's also got hair patterns that might indicate that she's going to have PCOS like me. We are also doing what you are supposed to: little to no juice, generally no deserts, little to no screen time (about 30 minutes a day on a good day), etc. etc. etc. I'm even encouraging her to drink water before eating more food..She has her 5 fruits and veggies a day... I'm not sure what else we should be doing..
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Post by 973beachbum on Oct 30, 2013 12:32:41 GMT -5
I was one of those teachers who hated having to give out BMI scores. Parents of fat kids know it already, do I really need to send home this letter? I also had skinny DS and chunky DD. That was fun, not. She had to be sneaking food somewhere but I never figured out where. Same with me. DD was always chunky and DS is razor thin. I do find empty candy bar wrappers and coke bottles in the pockets of her clothes and coats though so I know she is grabbing junk when she is out. I used to try so hard to never have any junk food in the house and made her take dancing and swim classes all the time. No matter what I did she just kept gaining weight. I actually try hard not to say anything now. Anything I say will be heard as, I don't love her if she isn't thin, or something closer to that than I just want her to be healthy even, though that is the truth. I just figured that by HS she does know she is ove weight without me saying it. If me saying anything will just cause angst I decded to err on the side of butting out of what she sticks in her mouth.
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Post by greeniis10 on Oct 30, 2013 12:32:58 GMT -5
Is this idiot going to try to hand out individual letters to those she deems as overweight?? If so, sure hope she gets her judgy self out there to pick up all the letters that will be immediately discarded as trash all over the neighborhood!
And I'm giving this way too much thought, but what if kids are dressed up as sumo wrestlers or pumpkins or something large? How will she "judge" them then? Yeah, the stupidity here is overwhelming...
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Oct 30, 2013 12:34:06 GMT -5
I love how people inform others about their weight like they don't already know. What a narcissist to think HER opinion matters to these families! At least the kids are outside having fun and getting exercise and fresh air. Is this her Witch persona she puts out special for Halloween? And people need to fight fire with fire and send HER a letter. Dear Witch: Thank you for you obnoxious unasked for opinion. I get that you're too cheap and lazy to buy candy for kids so why not just go crawl in your little hole and mind your damned business. Sincerely, Hates Ass hats who are mean to children on holidays <<sets pile of shit on fire at doorstep>>
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Post by greeniis10 on Oct 30, 2013 12:38:53 GMT -5
I do not intend to sound insensitive or to minimize the struggles of those with overweight children, but be glad that food is their "drug" of choice. My BFF's daughter (beautiful, smart, caring girl) struggled with her weight her entire childhood. She then resorted to meth and herione instead of food to self medicate. She's in therapy and counseling for the underlying issues and I hope she can get herself out of this mess. That's NOT to say that I think any or all overweight people have other issues. To the contrary. Every human body has a different shape and size and should be nurtured and appreciated.
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Post by 973beachbum on Oct 30, 2013 12:41:09 GMT -5
I do not intend to sound insensitive or to minimize the struggles of those with overweight children, but be glad that food is their "drug" of choice. My BFF's daughter (beautiful, smart, caring girl) struggled with her weight her entire childhood. She then resorted to meth and herione instead of food to self medicate. She's in therapy and counseling for the underlying issues and I hope she can get herself out of this mess. That's NOT to say that I think any or all overweight people have other issues. To the contrary. Every human body has a different shape and size and should be nurtured and appreciated. My daughter tells me the kids who want to lose weight at her school often resort to smoking or ADD meds.
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