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Post by Formerly SK on Oct 10, 2013 20:01:20 GMT -5
SIL left BIL after 19 years of marriage and went to France. Turns out she has a boy toy there. She has to return in Dec and there's rumors boy toy will come too (he has a teenage son that he'd bring). Just curious...how easy is it for him to move to the US? SIL is still technically married so I know that option is out at the moment. I just wonder how international moves work. The boy toy is in IT.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 20:08:58 GMT -5
They do a simple wang test. If his wang is shorter than 5 inches he is allowed in. American men don't want large wanged French men moving here.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Oct 10, 2013 20:16:05 GMT -5
They do a simple wang test. If his wang is shorter than 5 inches he is allowed in. American men don't want large wanged French men moving here. So, like, is "wang tester" a real job? It's not? Can I still volunteer?
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Oct 10, 2013 20:39:14 GMT -5
Archie, LMAO!!! Meghan - I at first thought you said "taster". Let me know if you need an assistant or somebody to hold the wang while you measure. Or I could measure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 20:41:58 GMT -5
If he's going to be 'kept', its just a matter of getting a visa to visit here. Being allowed to work, or remain legally might be an issue, but she can probably get him here without muh trouble...
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Post by tallguy on Oct 10, 2013 21:15:18 GMT -5
Damn! Good thing I'm already here!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 21:21:33 GMT -5
Apparently the fencing aroung the EE board needs repair...
Anyway... François will need passport, Visa, and certificates to prove that all his shots are up-to-date.
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Oct 10, 2013 21:26:56 GMT -5
-rofl-Holy shit!!! ETA: that was for the wang measuring comments
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2013 23:18:19 GMT -5
He can get in as a vacationer/visitor. He won't be able to work here unless he has unique skills that are not available in the US and an employer is willing to sponsor him. If he's a boy toy, then maybe he's just coming to play and she's a sugar momma.
patience, I think it's Giuseppe (Italy, not France).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 8:24:23 GMT -5
If he is in IT he may continue to be employed in France, and either travel back and forth, or work remotely. You don't know that he'll be technically looking for a job in the US (for now, at least).
You don't need a visa to visit the US, although you do to work there. I don't know how it would work for his son though, if he can just sign him up for school or not.
If they do stay together long-term, I imagine that logistically, it would be easier for them to eventually get married (in terms of visas, I mean).
Sorry it didn't work out for your BIL, SK, but at least his DD is coming back to the US.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 9:04:48 GMT -5
France is in Visa Waver Program. Good point debt. So he doesn't even need a visa for a 90 day visit... Just a passport.
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Post by Formerly SK on Oct 11, 2013 11:08:15 GMT -5
Debt, yes it's good the DD is coming back.
I think the guy makes decent money so I know SIL isn't going to support him. All we know is the guy and son are coming to SIL's city to check it out with the plan to have them move here. I'm figuring they think he could work remotely with his current job. I just wasn't sure how the visa system worked, though. I have one friend who married someone from S Korea and she couldn't work for years. Maybe she can now (she's a SAHM so it isn't an issue at the moment).
The boy toy has three kids from two women that he never legally married. I kind of doubt him and SIL will go that direction even once she is divorced, but every development in this saga has surprised me so who knows.
Debt - just curious. I know income taxes are higher in France. Is child support generally higher? With three kids, I'm just nosy wondering what kind of money the guy could actually have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 11:23:44 GMT -5
SK, in my experience CS is LOWER here ... but I don't really have a lot of info on that.
The boy toy has three kids from two women that he never legally married.
Having children out of wedlock is REALLY common here, even for educated, higher-earning people. Nobody here thinks twice about that, although I know it's different in the US. DS3 was 7 when DH and I finally got married lol.
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Post by imawino on Oct 11, 2013 11:25:55 GMT -5
I'm a little confused as to what it is that makes him a boy toy? The picture you paint is a grown, self-supporting man with a good job. Is he just bad because your SIL entered a relationship with him after ending her marriage with BIL?
Anyway, as other posters have noted - just coming to the US is easy. If he has a passport he can come here on vacation and stay a while. Getting a good, legal job is not nearly so easy, but it's not impossible. If he has specific and valuable IT skills he could get a company to apply for his visa. We have several foreign nationals working for our company and our HR handles most of the paperwork for them. It's not inexpensive!
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Post by Baby Fawkes on Oct 11, 2013 11:26:53 GMT -5
France is in Visa Waver Program. Good point debt. So he doesn't even need a visa for a 90 day visit... Just a passport. Correct, if he has a French passport he just needs to complete the ESTA application online: esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/ and he'll be fine for up to 90 days. Not sure what the rules are about staying longer than 90 days without sponsorship of some sort though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 11:30:16 GMT -5
Baby Bean is right ... I said you don't need a visa, but you do need to do that form online.
I don't know what happens after 90 days either though. I think he could easily go back and forth, especially if he continues to work for a French company ... he'll have travel expenses and a French vacation allowance (5 weeks minimum, it's often more). They could go on like that for a while.
I have no clue what the situation for his son is.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 11, 2013 12:13:25 GMT -5
OK, aside from all the technical passport/visa/worker stuff, I want to know just one thing: You say SIL has been gone after 19 years of marriage, and is still "technically married" to BIL. She went to France, found herself a new bit of ooooh la la, and is returning to the U.S., with Foxy Frenchy and son in tow. What does BIL think of all this? Is he happy to have her back, and just planning to put out the Welcome mat and making it a threesome? Hey, that's the really important question here!
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Post by cronewitch on Oct 11, 2013 12:35:20 GMT -5
BIL, wife, FF and son is a foursome. They could play tennis.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 12:44:09 GMT -5
Or golf!
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Post by Formerly SK on Oct 11, 2013 13:23:17 GMT -5
Honestly, I have nothing against the guy. I'm just being flippant and disrespectful. SIL has made a ton of really contrary-to-personality decisions in the past year (midlife crisis) and I'm really pissed at her for my niece's sake. I only care about the niece as she's the innocent victim in all this. BIL/SIL are divorcing, they just haven't started the formal proceedings since she moved to France temporarily this year. I'm sure it'll be finalized in 2014. At any rate, it sounds like it's easy for the guy to come here and that's all I really wanted to know.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Oct 11, 2013 13:59:27 GMT -5
Oh. There is another child involved in all this. Crap. I missed that. OK, it's not fun and games at this point. I hope the niece ends up with whoever is more stable, at least.
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Post by 973beachbum on Oct 14, 2013 7:36:34 GMT -5
Baby Bean is right ... I said you don't need a visa, but you do need to do that form online. I don't know what happens after 90 days either though. I think he could easily go back and forth, especially if he continues to work for a French company ... he'll have travel expenses and a French vacation allowance (5 weeks minimum, it's often more). They could go on like that for a while.. I have no clue what the situation for his son is. My mom has stayed in Europe for more than 90 days a few times. Technically she entered Portugal and had to get a visa through them even though she traveled all over Europe. It wasn't hard she just had to apply for a visa to stay as a visitor for however long she was staying and prove that she had the money to support herself while there which was harder than it sounds. they didn't want to see her American bank accounts and credit cards. they expected her to open a Portuguese one. Eventually they just let her pay a hefty fee and gave her the visa. With the way they let her roam freely around Europe without checking her passport or visa we always wondered what would have happened if she went to another country to overstay her welcome. How would France say even know she was in their country let alone had past her visa date with Portugal?
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Oct 14, 2013 8:52:37 GMT -5
So you see my son, there is a very fine line between love, and nausea.
Also, I think it depends how "legally" you want to do it. I know this is a massive anecdote, but I do know someone who essentially went into Spain and kind of... didn't leave. She was able to get help from an attorney to follow the process through. I know I'm missing quite a few details, but I'm pretty sure that was the bottom line.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 14, 2013 9:19:45 GMT -5
Apparently the fencing aroung the EE board needs repair... Aren't you just a ray of freaking sunshine
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Post by Baby Fawkes on Oct 14, 2013 11:40:02 GMT -5
Anyway... François will need passport, Visa, and certificates to prove that all his shots are up-to-date. I don't think that bolded part is necessarily true at all. He would definitely need them to apply for a green card, but I was never asked for that information when I entered as a visitor, on a student visa or an H1B visa. He just needs to fill out the ESTA application and that is enough.
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Post by Baby Fawkes on Oct 14, 2013 11:45:01 GMT -5
My mom has stayed in Europe for more than 90 days a few times. Technically she entered Portugal and had to get a visa through them even though she traveled all over Europe. It wasn't hard she just had to apply for a visa to stay as a visitor for however long she was staying and prove that she had the money to support herself while there which was harder than it sounds. they didn't want to see her American bank accounts and credit cards. they expected her to open a Portuguese one. Eventually they just let her pay a hefty fee and gave her the visa. With the way they let her roam freely around Europe without checking her passport or visa we always wondered what would have happened if she went to another country to overstay her welcome. How would France say even know she was in their country let alone had past her visa date with Portugal? In a lot of ways, it's a lot easier to get into Europe than the US. To answer your question though, there are no border checks for countries that are part of the EU. It's also that mandate that requires all the immigration sources to be coordinated (or at least accessible) to all other countries. She would probably have been fine until there was any reason to question her on something or run her identity, at which case she would have been already flagged in the system.
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