Is having a YES-Man good or bad?

[ZaireinHD]

BAD - if you're an owner of a business and surrounded by yes-men telling you your ideas are great when they are not!
BAD - if your friends are all yes-men telling you sure you can do that - it's a good idea, when it's not
BAD - if you are the one at fault and your yes-man is blaming the other person

Good - to cheer you up and your yes-man makes you feel better
Good - when your yes-man is actually correct in supporting you
Good - when you have completed the task at hand and won the up hill battle and your yes-man stood by your side!!

I personally don't want a yes-man. I just recently noticed who the girls on the show Sex and The City are all yes-men! how is it always the guys fault and Carrie is not to blame?

my yes-man -female - 9 years older than me - I could tell her
My x-bff pissed me off so badly today and broke my heart; AGAIN!!
yes-man - Zaire she is no good for you and you need to stay away from her!
or
My X-bff is contacting me again and it's so good to here from her, she makes me so happy!
yes-man - Zaire you and x-bff have a unique, and special friendship it's great you two are talking again 

my yes-man -male - 6 years younger than me - I could tell him
My X-BFF is such an asshole, I wish she would leave me alone and just stay away from me!
yes-man - Yo Zaire you should just sex her already and you'll be fine
or
My X-BFF is calling me again and we're having such a good time together
yes-man - that's good to here, so when you going to sex her


yes-man = useless

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I don't think you understand the definition of a yes-man.

A yes-man is someone who sucks-up to someone else who's higher up on the corporate ladder or authority, in an effort to get ahead themselves.

yes′-man`

n., pl. -men.
a person who always agrees with superiors, regardless of personal convictions; sycophant

yes men

Men without balls who will answer yes to any query from their boss/superior regardless of the question's intelligence, bearing, or appropriateness. It is usually intended to farther the yes man's carreer by getting and staying on the boss's good side, but may have the opposite effect.

Yes men often ruin the productivity or usefulness in the department they work in, as they are unwilling to provide any form of original idea, opinion or more importantly criticism to their boss and thus contribute to disconnect between managers and workers

yes–man
noun \ˈyes-ˌman\

: a person (especially a man) who agrees with everything that someone says : a person who supports the opinions or ideas of someone else in order to earn that person's approval

[Peace Of Mind]

I TOTALLY think SL is your Yes-woMAN.  Or she is just crushing on you.   

[ZaireinHD]

LOL nah
more like ball- buster

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

I TOTALLY think SL is your Yes-woMAN.

Nope, I've never kissed-up to anyone to just get ahead.

My post was just to explain what a yes-man is - since it seemed pretty obvious that Zaire didn't know - I think the term he was looking for is "confidante" .

con·fi·dant

/ˈkänfəˌdant/

Noun

A person with whom one shares a secret or private matter, trusting them not to repeat it.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

my yes-man -male - 6 years younger than me - I could tell him
My X-BFF is such an asshole, I wish she would leave me alone and just stay away from me!
yes-man - Yo Zaire you should just sex her already and you'll be fine
or
My X-BFF is calling me again and we're having such a good time together

If this X-BFF is such an asshole as you call her, why do you then turn around to spend time with her? You wish she'd leave you alone, yet you see her if she calls. Ever hear of not accepting her calls? Caller ID? Blocking her from texting/messaging you? Telling her to get lost?

You're the one who's keeping this going - if you just cut ties you'd be done with her. Plain & simple.


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[Apple]

Sept 25, 2013 22:21:09 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

yes–man
noun \ˈyes-ˌman\

: a person (especially a man) who agrees with everything that someone says : a person who supports the opinions or ideas of someone else in order to earn that person's approval

I'd say this is exactly how Zaire is using the term, so it does look like he knows what he means.  Confidante is completely different, they can be a silent listener, give advice, etc.  In no way do they have to agree to everything you say like a yes-man would.

I don't care for yes-men.  On a crew, in personal life, whatever.  I prefer the straight-shooter who will tell it to you like it is, but preferably one with tact who knows how to soften the blow when it's something I don't want to hear.  The people closest to me are those who will be honest with me.

I have seen more than one boss put himself in a bind when he's chosen to promote only yes-men.  Some bosses want that.  I think a GOOD boss would want accurate opinions/feedback without being rude, overbearing, confrontational or argumentative.  I don't think someone has to always be playing devil's advocate to do that either, they just need to have the balance and be "real".

If I needed someone to think everything I did was the greatest idea ever, I'd get another dog (cuz mine's too dang stubborn).

[ZaireinHD]

I'm with you Apple
yes -man doesn't provide any real value in business or friendships. real feedback is needed for improvement. bosses that prefer a yes-man on their team for them I guess is good when improvement is met, or have a good outcome. but when the shit hits the fan! what then?

[ZaireinHD]

no Scottish Lassie I never heard of blocking telephone numbers or caller ID!

when is it ever plain and simple?

when people want to get in contact with someone - they can
so my x-bff has several choices to contact me other than calling - so blocking a number on my cell really doesn't do much for one. then if another number is used to contact me that number would go through.

[Deleted]

I think Zaire knows what it means too.


And if he wants to keep calling the user his "BFF" that is his perogative. I hope he realizes sooner rather than later that she's never going to date him and that he's stopping himself from finding someone who will because he drops everything when she comes around.

[ZaireinHD]

thanks Beer
my x best friend was not a yes -WOman - she knew or knows me better than I know myself and knew or knows how to express how I'm wrong and provide the perfect answer.

that is what I miss about our friendship - I became very dependant on her opinion.
I only used a situation as an example above - how a yes man would answer the same situation differently and how it's different yes man answers from a guy and woman.

[Otto the Orange]

Where are the feminists on the issue of the title "Yes Man" anyway?

thye are all against "history" and things like that (his-story), and the term mailman, etc........why not the negatives like Yes Man? 

[ZaireinHD]

ok so I sent my yes-WOman an email telling her I was thinking of her while looking on the Coach website.

she recently responded saying:

"Zaire, it's your friendship that means the world to me. No amount of money or gifts can make me feel as good as I do knowing we're friends. Can't put a price on that"

"You know I love Ya"

now see that is so nice to hear / read. I can do no wrong in her eyes.

I already know I don't have to buy her gifts
I already know we're friends, and happy towards each other
it's just simply me doing something nice for her, a just because gift
no different when I was into sending cards, I would send thinking of you card, or funny cards, just because.
but now I'm older and just because has changed with me.

[Deleted]

Yes.

[jencin]

Depends on the parties involved.

Not for me.  Wouldn't that be really boring?

[mmhmm]

Not me, either, jen.  I always preferred the guy who said:  What if ...

[Opti]

"I just recently noticed who the girls on the show Sex and The City are all yes-men! how is it always the guys fault and Carrie is not to blame? "


Are you sure you've watched the same show I watched on DVD?

Big is definitely not a Yes man and often battled with Carrie.
Samantha's lover where the infamous argument of he's too small
and she's to big in front of a therapist. Not a measure of a Yes man
at all.


Just looking at one comment, the poster nailed it. I don't think you
understand what Yes Man really means. Its usually someone of either
gender who is employed by the person they never (Never!) say no to
or contradict them. If your Yes Man or Yes Woman disagrees with you,
by definition IMO they are no longer Yes people.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Exactly, Thankfulist. Which is what I was trying to get through to Z - since he doesn't understand the meaning of a "Yes-Man".

A "Yes-Man" is an a$$-kisser who'll grovel/jump when the boss asks for anything to be done, just to be a suck-up and hopefully gain points with said boss to (hopefully) get ahead in the company.

"Yes-men" can be either gender - and if they're willing to stoop to sucking-up, they usually get taken advantage of with no reward.

[ZaireinHD]

Sept 26, 2013 0:51:52 GMT -5 Apple said:

Sept 25, 2013 22:21:09 GMT -5 ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ said:

I'd say this is exactly how Zaire is using the term, so it does look like he knows what he means.  Confidante is completely different, they can be a silent listener, give advice, etc.  In no way do they have to agree to everything you say like a yes-man would.

I don't care for yes-men.  On a crew, in personal life, whatever.  I prefer the straight-shooter who will tell it to you like it is, but preferably one with tact who knows how to soften the blow when it's something I don't want to hear.  The people closest to me are those who will be honest with me.

I have seen more than one boss put himself in a bind when he's chosen to promote only yes-men.  Some bosses want that.  I think a GOOD boss would want accurate opinions/feedback without being rude, overbearing, confrontational or argumentative.  I don't think someone has to always be playing devil's advocate to do that either, they just need to have the balance and be "real".

If I needed someone to think everything I did was the greatest idea ever, I'd get another dog (cuz mine's too dang stubborn).

my interpretation of a yes-man / person!
someone that constantly and constantly agrees with you! never putting the blame on you even when you are the blame and at fault. a person that always agrees with you even with you are wrong, or being silly, constantly laughing or giggling, or chucking at all of your jokes even when they are not funny!
to me having a yes person is not being helpful

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

Why are you showing my nic in that quoted text box for something I didn't say? It was Apple who posted that quoted text - not me.







.

[ZaireinHD]

your section is not expanded - that is all that is in view - Apple quote

[mmhmm]

A "yes man" is a jerk who'll say whatever he/she needs to say to get what he/she wants from someone in authority, or a friend they're trying to use.  The person who tells you when you're wrong but also compliments you when you're right is called a friend.

[ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ]

A "yes man" is a jerk who'll say whatever he/she needs to say to get what he/she wants from someone in authority, or a friend they're trying to use.

That's basically what I said, mmhmm - or someone who's willing to kiss the boss's (or friend's) a$$ and jump through hoops to get ahead and score points - instead of actually doing the work to earn them.

[ZaireinHD]

Dec 27, 2013 19:50:44 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

A "yes man" is a jerk who'll say whatever he/she needs to say to get what he/she wants from someone in authority, or a friend they're trying to use.  The person who tells you when you're wrong but also compliments you when you're right is called a friend.

LOL!
that's brutal mmHmm

the last two people I speak to in person, well then again some family I think are yes men towards me. I just can't do no wrong in their eyes. I can call them up and say I think I just killed my GF! and both of them (1 guy younger than me and 1 woman older than me) would both say something like she deserved it, and help me cover it up! she would speak to her cops friends on what to do and he would probably find ways to clean up. if I stole money from the company they both would blame the company for not paying enough. I could be at fault in a car accident and they both would blame the other driver for being their, or in my way.

both of them don't ask me for anything. I am not their boss of anything. they compliment me often with having good ideas and always trying to help me feel better when I am feeling down or upset.

[mmhmm]

Helping you feel better when you're down is a good thing.  We should all do that for those about whom we care.  Covering up for someone's wrongful deed, however, isn't true friendship as far as I'm concerned.  That's called enabling and it's very, very harmful.

[ZaireinHD]

yes - agreed mmHmm!
yes man is not a good thing / person to have. there is no actual real value with the friendship. like a sports Boxer having an entourage! always telling him, he is the greatest and best fighter, and no one can beat him up!
LOL
then get in the ring and it's a whole different story!


when I am feeling down and if I happen to share feeling with my friend, she really doesn't lift my mood completely; because I know it's fluff, puffery in the TV commercial biz! it is nice to hear, but it's not really helpful.

I think some people just like and want this kind of attention. It's just not for me.

[zibazinski]

I bought my ex a YES MAN toy that stoked his ego with suck up words every time he pushed a button. It was actually called a YES MAN. Only the kids and I got the "joke." He didn't. H actually liked the gift without realizing it was an insult.