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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Aug 23, 2013 9:10:06 GMT -5
If you don't like the blaze you could read about it at these and about 60 other stories: CNNcbshuffington
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 23, 2013 9:26:53 GMT -5
Find the men, prosecute and punish them to the full extent of the law, including the possibilty of the death penalty.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 23, 2013 9:42:01 GMT -5
If you don't like the blaze you could read about it at these and about 60 other stories: CNNcbshuffingtonMSN had a large article on it also. Sound racist to me, but what do I know?
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Post by bean29 on Aug 23, 2013 9:45:12 GMT -5
Why is it racist?
I read the article on MSN this morning. I did not find it racist. What did I miss?
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 23, 2013 9:54:38 GMT -5
Sad. Poor old fellow. I must agree, however, I see nothing racial in this incident. From what we have to go on, it looks like a random attack by a couple of useless wastes of DNA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 11:47:00 GMT -5
The story seems mostly the same from all the news sources covering it.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Aug 23, 2013 12:07:35 GMT -5
Arrest made in this case. usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/23/20145461-teen-arrested-in-beating-death-of-wwii-vet-88-in-spokane-wash?lite=&lite=obnetworkThe victim's daughter-in-law, Barbara Belton, said doctors told her his face was battered so badly that they couldn't stop the bleeding.
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Police released these surveillance camera photos Thursday of two young men believed to be the suspects in the beating death of Delbert Belton of Spokane, Wash. Click to enlarge the images. Advertise | AdChoices"That was no way to have to die," she told NBC News shortly after the arrest was announced. "They said even if he had survived, there probably would have been brain damage. It was horrendous."
Nice people these criminals.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 23, 2013 12:58:12 GMT -5
Interestering that Time posted this article before this sad story hit the news: ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/?iid=ent-main-mostpop2"The association of young black men with violence doesn't come out of thin air" "The numbers don’t lie: young black men do commit about 50% of the murders in the U.S. " "But hardly uncommon are cases such as the two black guys who doused a white 13-year-old with gasoline and lit him on fire, saying “You get what you deserve, white boy” (Kansas City, Mo.) or 20 black kids who beat up white Matthew Owens on his porch “for Trayvon” (Mobile, Ala.)." "Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men." The are other other cases mentioned in the article. There needs to be an honest discussion about the LEVEL of violence that is committed by black men. Yes we are targeting a certain demographic because the numbers don't lie. I don't think it's racist to say this subgroup has issues and until everyone is honest with themselves, and stops blaming others/environment instead of accepting personal responsibily, thing will only continue to get worse. Of course maybe both Time and I am racist because we can't help but notice the imbalance in the types of crimes committed.
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Post by jkapp on Aug 23, 2013 12:58:42 GMT -5
Of course it's not racial...its balck teens beating up an old white man. Now if it has been white kids beating up a black man, THEN it would be racial. You have to understand backwards progressive liberal logic in order to decipher true racism...
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Post by EVT1 on Aug 23, 2013 15:58:21 GMT -5
If you don't like the blaze you could read about it at these and about 60 other stories: CNNcbshuffingtonI was just amused at the comments. They are pretty sure it was all about race over there. Probably not topic worthy.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 23, 2013 16:10:48 GMT -5
Of course it's not racial...its balck teens beating up an old white man. Now if it has been white kids beating up a black man, THEN it would be racial. You have to understand backwards progressive liberal logic in order to decipher true racism... No, it would not necessarily have been racial either way. Whether or not it was racial would depend on the circumstances, the surroundings, any associated history, etc. We don't know any of that. From what we DO know, this looks like a random assault and murder.
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Post by kent on Aug 23, 2013 16:33:55 GMT -5
I have never read The Blaze (whatever that is) but I sure have trouble linking the published link with them being "...the largest full of shit organization on the planet." The article is just a factual account of what transpired. I think somebody needs to take a breath....
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Post by kent on Aug 23, 2013 16:38:54 GMT -5
The story seems mostly the same from all the news sources covering it. Just looked at the three sites mentioned and the only reference to race I could see was in the DESCRIPTION of the attacker - good grief!
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Post by jkapp on Aug 23, 2013 16:39:19 GMT -5
If you don't like the blaze you could read about it at these and about 60 other stories: CNNcbshuffingtonI was just amused at the comments. They are pretty sure it was all about race over there. Probably not topic worthy. And it would have been the same if the races of the people involved in the assault had been reversed. Except it probably would have been an article about Al Sharpton visiting the deceased's family at the hospital and then him getting on his soapbox afterward.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 27, 2013 20:26:43 GMT -5
I have a LOT of trouble believing that story.
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Post by EVT1 on Aug 28, 2013 1:18:32 GMT -5
Maybe they were standing their ground- he was a trained killer and all BTW old people have sex and smoke crack too- I remember the cops episode where they yanked a grandma and grandad with a grow operation in the garage. Might be bullshit- might not. Or the other option is that old white veterans are incapable of commiting crimes and racist blacks attacked him at random- but only because he was white. I think anyone here would love to be in a position to be able to smoke some crack at 88! Why not? WTF else you have to do?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 28, 2013 2:12:26 GMT -5
the idea that glen beck is blazed has SOME appeal.
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Post by EVT1 on Aug 28, 2013 2:20:47 GMT -5
? What do I know- I'm living in my mom's basement with no job Maybe I would do better in life if I took the position it was OK to murder people over property. Recipe for success!
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 28, 2013 8:31:56 GMT -5
? What do I know- I'm living in my mom's basement with no job Maybe I would do better in life if I took the position it was OK to murder people over property. Recipe for success! Ok, I have to ask. Your photo icon, is that a mop next to your head? I know someone here thought you were portraying Rambo wanna be a few days ago. I do not believe that was what you are portraying, but now I am asking what the reference is with the icon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 8:49:17 GMT -5
Maybe they were standing their ground- he was a trained killer and all BTW old people have sex and smoke crack too- I remember the cops episode where they yanked a grandma and grandad with a grow operation in the garage. Might be bullshit- might not. Or the other option is that old white veterans are incapable of commiting crimes and racist blacks attacked him at random- but only because he was white. I think anyone here would love to be in a position to be able to smoke some crack at 88! Why not? WTF else you have to do? I judge the senior citizens of this country by what I saw on episodes of cops also.
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Post by workpublic on Aug 28, 2013 10:37:15 GMT -5
evt,
the zimmerman's actions weren't about race either.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 28, 2013 11:18:11 GMT -5
I'd imagine if the old fellow was dealing crack, traces of the product would be found on his person or in his home, or car. These two guys wouldn't be the only two guys in town who knew about it, either. I'm of a mind to believe they wanted his wallet, and they got it. Further investigation may prove otherwise, but both boys have a background that would make that a reasonable guess.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 28, 2013 11:46:22 GMT -5
? What do I know- I'm living in my mom's basement with no job Maybe I would do better in life if I took the position it was OK to murder people over property. Recipe for success! Ok, I have to ask. Your photo icon, is that a mop next to your head? no, it is a mop next to Frank Zappa's head.
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Post by workpublic on Aug 28, 2013 12:58:20 GMT -5
come on dj i thought you were a playing out musician ? ya don't recognize dweizel's dad?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 28, 2013 13:29:16 GMT -5
come on dj i thought you were a playing out musician ? ya don't recognize dweizel's dad? stop teasing me. he is (was) one of my top 5 favourite artists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 14:48:18 GMT -5
Maybe they were standing their ground- he was a trained killer and all BTW old people have sex and smoke crack too- I remember the cops episode where they yanked a grandma and grandad with a grow operation in the garage. Might be bullshit- might not. Or the other option is that old white veterans are incapable of commiting crimes and racist blacks attacked him at random- but only because he was white. I think anyone here would love to be in a position to be able to smoke some crack at 88! Why not? WTF else you have to do? You should really make up your mind on what the "elderly" can and can't do. On this thread an 89 year old vet is a "trained killer and all" (blah blah military background blah blah...I get it)...and on another thread you say why fear a 60 year old man who was shot by police. Which is it? Are they dangerous....or poor helpless folks? Also...I didn't see any mention of Florida in your OP. Can you correct this so that everybody knows it you who is posting?
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Post by EVT1 on Aug 28, 2013 22:59:35 GMT -5
come on dj i thought you were a playing out musician ? ya don't recognize dweizel's dad? stop teasing me. he is (was) one of my top 5 favourite artists. Thought Joe's Garage was more well known. I don't see how anyone got Rambo out of it- strange. May I recommend Zappa plays Zappa if they show up in your area.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 28, 2013 23:04:44 GMT -5
stop teasing me. he is (was) one of my top 5 favourite artists. Thought Joe's Garage was more well known. I don't see how anyone got Rambo out of it- strange. May I recommend Zappa plays Zappa if they show up in your area. you may.
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