Racism or Elitism?

[happyhoix]

I'll be damned if I'm racist because I don't like a black person because they are black. This has been done to DEATH. I like who I like & don't like who I don't like & if confronted with the race card because one of those I don't like is black then I'm going to knock someone on their ass!

If you're in retail, doesn't matter if you like someone or not. You're supposed to offer the same service to everyone who enters your store, if you want to stay in business.

Personally, most people I encounter annoy me. At the Walmart last weekend, I had an almost overwhelming urge to just stand in the crowded aisle and start shrieking, just so everyone would get the hell out of my way (everyone clears the aisles for crazy).

The only reason I refrained was I was afraid I would end up on that website about the people of walmart, tagged as this crazy bitch who wouldn't stop screaming.

However, I don't work at Walmart, I was just shopping there. The employees have to at least pretend to be cordial and friendly to everyone, no matter what they really think of them.

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Personally, most people I encounter annoy me.

 POTD

[movingforward]

Aug 14, 2013 11:13:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 14, 2013 8:57:00 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

if you're a man buying a car, it doesn't matter what you are wearing.

This. When I was buying my car a year ago, I went to the dealerships myself and test drove the cars myself. It's my car. While DH and I discussed and agreed on a price range, I picked out what I wanted.

Everyone of the places that let me do a test drive asked me when I was coming back with my DH. Apparently, you need a penis to sign the paperwork for a new car.

And at that one dealership I went to where they ignored me, you apparently have to have a penis just to test drive a car.  

This is OT but there was a very interesting article in our local paper a few weeks ago.  It seems the city's most successful car dealership is owned by a female.  She believes part of her success is due to the fact that women are treated as serious buyers and decision makers.  This day and age you would think EVERY dealership/salesperson would realize that.  They are leaving money on the table by pissing off women who have money to spend.

[chiver78]

happyhoix, I am sitting here at the pizza shop waiting for my salad, laughing so hard picturing you standing in the aisle screaming to clear a path, that I'm tearing up. im sure the other patrons think I'm a little crazy too. lmfao!!

sent from my electronic distraction

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Aug 14, 2013 11:05:54 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Aug 14, 2013 10:09:24 GMT -5 @mmc said:

We tried to buy a vehicle last Friday.  At first the salesman was asking "Can you put 1/3 down?  Because of the financial crisis, banks need more downpayment".

I said, "No, I want to put nothing down.  The manufacturer is offering .9% for 60 months, but no rebate in lieu of the financing.  I want to finance the entire vehicle price."

After he returned from running our credit "No problem sir, would you like to finance the sales tax and registration too?"



So it seems like he made an assumption based on us showing up in shorts and tshirts. 

MMC that's the way you add that up? There could be a lot of reasons why he made that statement (which was totally bogus btw). My first thought was he was testing to see if you could be upgraded (more money sell a more expensive car). They always do the payment thing with me (what kind of payment can you afford) & I just see it as part of the approach. When my salesman (who was new btw) asked me what other cars I was looking at & tossed out 2 that were more than double the price of the 1 I was looking at. I also worked in that his company like to pad the car prices a BUNCH (like $6,000 on the more expensive car that I was looking at & $3,000 on the cheaper one).

We were very specific on what we wanted - Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring FWD. There isn't a higher model. There are some options/accessories, but I doubt your scenario.

[hurley1980]

I went with my mom to buy her a car last month, and we both looked like crap.  I was hung over, in shorts, and tank top, and a camo baseball cap, she was wearing jeans, a t shirt, and ratty tennis shoes.  We knew we would be walking around a lot so we wanted to be comfortable.

We took no men with us and walked out with a good deal on a barely used car.  However, she did call the lot ahead of time to tell them what she was looking for and to see what they had to offer, so we had a salesman who knew we were serious before we even stepped onto the lot.

OT, but Chiver....I was introduced to KCCO last week by my husband, and now I can't stop Chiving!  Its addictive!  I finally get your picture now.

[hurley1980]

Aug 14, 2013 6:04:55 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

If you think wearing pajamas in public is ok, then maybe you should be snubbed until you learn to dress. I used to see women wearing bedroom slippers out in public and not when they had a broken toe, either! Unreal. Then they wonder why people treated them like crap. Are you really that stupid? Same people who name their kids freak names that relegate them forever to menial jobs or jail.

  Seriously!  I can understand looking like crap if you are sick and running to Walgreens for Theraflu, or if you are picking  up TP on your way home from the gym or something, but I don't get some of these people who are out to lunch with friends and family, and half the girls are wearing pjs and stained tank tops, and their kids are running around with no shoes.

I will admit, I don't always give a crap when I go to walmart. I went in there in paint stained clothes last week (cause I had been painting) to pick up a few things for dinner, but....when in Rome.  I really didnt feel like showering and changing, just to go to Walmart, then change back to start painting again.

If I am going out to run a few errands, or to lunch with friends, I always make sure I look presentable.  You never know who you will run into in public!  And if I know I am going shopping at the high end mall in town, you better believe I dress for the part.

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Hey there, hurley1980! Didn't you get married recently? How was the wedding?!?!

[hoops902]

::You never know who you will run into in public!::

Who are you worried about running into in public?  Not everyone cares what others think of how they dress.

[hurley1980]

Aug 14, 2013 12:17:21 GMT -5 @beerwench said:

Hey there, hurley1980! Didn't you get married recently? How was the wedding?!?!

It was F'n Epic!  Great food, tons of booze, and kilts all over the place.  I think everyone really enjoyed themselves and I had a blast, but I'm glad its over so we can just relax now.

[hurley1980]

Aug 14, 2013 12:18:11 GMT -5 hoops902 said:

::You never know who you will run into in public!::

Who are you worried about running into in public?  Not everyone cares what others think of how they dress.

Well, I for one, would hate to run into one of my bosses while out running errands in pjs.  Not everyone cares, but I care.

[happyhoix]

Aug 14, 2013 11:38:11 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

happyhoix, I am sitting here at the pizza shop waiting for my salad, laughing so hard picturing you standing in the aisle screaming to clear a path, that I'm tearing up. im sure the other patrons think I'm a little crazy too. lmfao!!

sent from my electronic distraction

Really I should have known not to go that day - it was sales tax free day in our state (they have it every year prior to school starting, they don't charge tax on school supplies - including computers - plus they had a $50 gift card if you bought a $500 computer - my inner YM cheapness forced me to go get a good deal on a laptop).  But everyone alive at this end of the state was there, too. 

A mom studying a catfood box with her daughter hanging out of the shopping cart blocking my way on one side and two older ladies standing side by side, their carts blocking my rear exit was what made me almost lose my shit - shrieking seemed like a powerful but not fatal way to get them the hell away from me. 

That's what I get for being cheap.  





 

[tskeeter]

Aug 14, 2013 11:13:32 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 14, 2013 8:57:00 GMT -5 @moneyjenny82 said:

if you're a man buying a car, it doesn't matter what you are wearing.

This. When I was buying my car a year ago, I went to the dealerships myself and test drove the cars myself. It's my car. While DH and I discussed and agreed on a price range, I picked out what I wanted.

Everyone of the places that let me do a test drive asked me when I was coming back with my DH. Apparently, you need a penis to sign the paperwork for a new car.

And at that one dealership I went to where they ignored me, you apparently have to have a penis just to test drive a car.  

If you start from the premise that the overwhelming majority of car salespeople (male and female) are dumbarse cretins, you'd be right pretty close to 100% of the time. 

[Phoenix84]

Personally I feel the race card is played way too much.  In my opinion, the bar should be set pretty high to count racism as a factor in an event.  This is because I think being called a racist is one of the worst things that can be said of someone.  So unless there's racial slurs, or clear mistreatment based on race, I am usually inclined to think it's something else.  Getting a poor tip, being the victem of bad customer service, people not sitting next to you on the bus or at the doctor's office usually isn't a result of racism.

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apparently rush claims the storeperson wouldn't show Oprah the bag because Oprah is "fat".....by his logic apparently there are not man fat rich chicks (most rich chicks are thin or average (unless they are really old geezers)).....according to his logic

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Why are people so surprised that the clerk didn't recognize Oprah? Who is Oprah that needs to get international recognition? She is an American entertainer who does day time television and has a ton of money. So what if the clerk didn't recognize her and didn't lay the red carpet in front of her? If she was dressed crappy and didn't have the ton of make-up she usually has on, she probably looked like crap. I highly doubt it was anything to do with racism. I am tired of the racism card too.

[greeniis10]

Aug 14, 2013 12:13:18 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

Aug 14, 2013 6:04:55 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

If you think wearing pajamas in public is ok, then maybe you should be snubbed until you learn to dress. I used to see women wearing bedroom slippers out in public and not when they had a broken toe, either! Unreal. Then they wonder why people treated them like crap. Are you really that stupid? Same people who name their kids freak names that relegate them forever to menial jobs or jail.

  Seriously!  I can understand looking like crap if you are sick and running to Walgreens for Theraflu, or if you are picking  up TP on your way home from the gym or something, but I don't get some of these people who are out to lunch with friends and family, and half the girls are wearing pjs and stained tank tops, and their kids are running around with no shoes.

I will admit, I don't always give a crap when I go to walmart. I went in there in paint stained clothes last week (cause I had been painting) to pick up a few things for dinner, but....when in Rome.  I really didnt feel like showering and changing, just to go to Walmart, then change back to start painting again.

If I am going out to run a few errands, or to lunch with friends, I always make sure I look presentable.  You never know who you will run into in public!  And if I know I am going shopping at the high end mall in town, you better believe I dress for the part.

I could not agree more!  I never go anywhere after the gym except straight home to shower.  But lately, if I need to go to Wal-Mart I'll stop by on my way home.  I figure if I'm sweaty and smelly maybe people won't stand right on top of me in the check-out line or ask me questions while I'm shopping.  Everywhere else, yes, please dress appropriately and with some self-respect!

[movingforward]

Aug 14, 2013 14:16:30 GMT -5 @robbase2012 said:

apparently rush claims the storeperson wouldn't show Oprah the bag because Oprah is "fat".....by his logic apparently there are not man fat rich chicks (most rich chicks are thin or average (unless they are really old geezers)).....according to his logic

Surely you didn't expect rush to be logical

[hoops902]

Aug 14, 2013 14:16:30 GMT -5 @robbase2012 said:

apparently rush claims the storeperson wouldn't show Oprah the bag because Oprah is "fat".....by his logic apparently there are not man fat rich chicks (most rich chicks are thin or average (unless they are really old geezers)).....according to his logic

Since most rich women are only rich because they are trophy wives who married already rich husbands...I'd say his premise is spot on.  The women who ARE fat and rich are smart enough to get lipo so they don't look so gross.  That just leaves Oprah and a couple of women who are famous for being on Food Network and eat too much.

[greeniis10]

I also agree with almost40: one of our state's top-rated women-owned businesses is a car dealership.  Holds the record for being award-winning in many catagories.  I've never been treated the way some of you have been at a car dealership!  Makes me think I'm missing out on a big opportunity: to open women-focused car dealerships in some of these areas!

[formerroomate99]

And at that one dealership I went to where they ignored me, you apparently have to have a penis just to test drive a car.

I find a tank top solves that problem, but I live a bit farther north than you do.

[zibazinski]

[chiver78]

Aug 14, 2013 12:07:15 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

OT, but Chiver....I was introduced to KCCO last week by my husband, and now I can't stop Chiving!  Its addictive!  I finally get your picture now.

I have honestly never been to that website! my nickname came long before the website ever did, but people on this board asked I was taking my cue from them......um, wouldn't I have called myself chivette?

but when I ever saw this guy on whatever cruise it was, I had to take his pic. I actually have a new pic I need to ask SL to host for me - the same content, but on a blue t-shirt with Red Sox lettering!

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Aug 14, 2013 12:57:44 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Aug 14, 2013 11:38:11 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

happyhoix, I am sitting here at the pizza shop waiting for my salad, laughing so hard picturing you standing in the aisle screaming to clear a path, that I'm tearing up. im sure the other patrons think I'm a little crazy too. lmfao!!

sent from my electronic distraction

Really I should have known not to go that day - it was sales tax free day in our state (they have it every year prior to school starting, they don't charge tax on school supplies - including computers - plus they had a $50 gift card if you bought a $500 computer - my inner YM cheapness forced me to go get a good deal on a laptop).  But everyone alive at this end of the state was there, too. 

A mom studying a catfood box with her daughter hanging out of the shopping cart blocking my way on one side and two older ladies standing side by side, their carts blocking my rear exit was what made me almost lose my shit - shrieking seemed like a powerful but not fatal way to get them the hell away from me. 

That's what I get for being cheap.  


 

And this is why I don't go to Walmart. It's not worth what it does to my blood pressure.