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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 9:25:36 GMT -5
Well, considering the fact that a rodeo clown's job is to keep the bulls from killing dismounted riders by distracting the bulls and then hopping into a barrel for safety, I imagine any immitation of a sitting president would be unflattering. The most unique thing about this situation is that the curernt president is black and the vast majority of the folks at this event were white. again- this has nothing to do with how the clown "appeared". you guys are missing the point. i am starting to think it is intentional.
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Post by Shooby on Aug 14, 2013 9:47:12 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Yeah, right. I thought the broomstick was a lovely touch though. And, of course the Left always wants to silence any speech they disagree with.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 14, 2013 9:54:40 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo. Where were all of you during the Bush years? Yeah, right. I thought the broomstick was a lovely touch though. And, of course the Left always wants to silence any speech they disagree with.
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Post by Shooby on Aug 14, 2013 10:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by Shooby on Aug 14, 2013 10:12:32 GMT -5
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Post by Shooby on Aug 14, 2013 10:13:03 GMT -5
Yup, severed head of Bush. Uh huh. I could probably post a million similar pics.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 14, 2013 10:27:54 GMT -5
Shooby was this rally sponsored by a government organization, like the State Fair, or was it a rally of people who didn't like Bush? Individuals can say what they want. Companies and government organizations cannot.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 10:46:23 GMT -5
Oh boo hoo. boo hoo yourself.Where were all of you during the Bush years? standing up for Bush.Yeah, right. I thought the broomstick was a lovely touch though. And, of course the Left always wants to silence any speech they disagree with. bullpuckey. you can say whatever you want, so long as you are not threatening a non-consenting person.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 10:47:25 GMT -5
that is utterly wrong, and i would unfailingly say so. would you?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 14, 2013 13:51:26 GMT -5
The last time I checked, companies could say what they wanted to too. Shooby's image depicting a decapitated Pres. Bush isn't a threat. Neither is a rodeo clown in an Obama mask being trampled by a bull. They're violent, but they're expressions of what the authors (actors) believe is just, provocative and/or funny. It's absurd to believe that the men who constructed the guillotine display intended on capturing and decapitating Pres. Bush. It's equally absurd to believe that the rodeo organizers planned on trampling the real Pres. Obama with a bull. You can claim that both instances are depictions of bodily harm and argue that such depictions should be illegal, but the term 'threat' in no way applies to either case.
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Post by Shooby on Aug 14, 2013 13:53:17 GMT -5
A decapitation isn't a threat? Wow.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 14:33:30 GMT -5
The last time I checked, companies could say what they wanted to too. Shooby's image depicting a decapitated Pres. Bush isn't a threat.. your opinion. not mine. edit: not Shooby's either, apparently.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 14, 2013 16:10:35 GMT -5
Hence you can be wrong together. Perhaps either of you would care to share your theories on how the artists responsible for the display intended on storming Pres. Bush's residence, subduing the SS agents, obtaining a functional guillotine, and executing the man in spectacular fashion. I'd just assumed they were artists with poor taste at a Denver pro-Obama jamboree, but clearly I'm not appreciating the depth of the threat they posed. And the rodeo clowns. Do you suppose they had the bull in storage somewhere in DC, ready for when they stormed the White House? Would the plan be to kill the legions of SS officers and then bring the bull into the White House, or kill the legions of officers and then chase Pres. Obama out into the open so that the bull could trample him there? Hopefully the NSA has a file on rodeo clowns to nip these kind of terrorist threats in the bud. If not, what we need is more surveillance and tighter standards on who's allowed to become a rodeo clown.
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Post by Opti on Aug 14, 2013 16:21:22 GMT -5
Shooby I admit I'm rather confused as to the purpose of the Bush Whacker display overall. If that head is supposed to be W its an awful bad likeness. I have a feeling given all the other heads on display it is not a threat per se against W or Jeb, but a statement against the Gore vs. Bush ballot box controversy. Likely a statement that 2008 should not be a repeat of the 2000 controversy.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 14, 2013 16:22:00 GMT -5
A decapitation isn't a threat? Wow. No, a decapitation isn't a threat. A decapitation is a murder. The depiction of a decapitation isn't a threat, either - unless, it accompanied by an actual threat to the life of the individual being depicted. The display, like the rodeo "entertainment", was crass and vulgar; however, it was not a threat, per se.
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Post by Opti on Aug 14, 2013 16:22:50 GMT -5
FWIW I was to a rodeo once upon a time as a child when out West. No political clowns. Just regular clowns distracting bulls when needed.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 14, 2013 16:33:28 GMT -5
A decapitation isn't a threat? Wow. No, a decapitation isn't a threat. A decapitation is a murder. The depiction of a decapitation isn't a threat, either - unless, it accompanied by an actual threat to the life of the individual being depicted. The display, like the rodeo "entertainment", was crass and vulgar; however, it was not a threat, per se. Ha! mmhmm and I agree. So it's two against two. As an aside, mmhmm: I vote we call ourselves "Team V&M". Like a play on "Texas A&M". But if you like "Team M&V" better, we can discuss. Really the only reason it matters is that the newspapers will have to print it so many times when we win the argument. "Team V&M Obliterates Team Pollshoob in August Showdown" has a good ring to it.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 14, 2013 16:42:46 GMT -5
Must be time for some music
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 17:24:24 GMT -5
Hence you can be wrong together. Perhaps either of you would care to share your theories on how the artists responsible for the display intended on storming Pres. Bush's residence, subduing the SS agents, obtaining a functional guillotine, and executing the man in spectacular fashion.. i already expressed my theory. you just don't buy it. have a nice day.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Aug 14, 2013 17:29:30 GMT -5
No bad argument can withstand the combined might of TEAM V&M Carry on, citizens.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 14, 2013 17:38:29 GMT -5
Virgil! Dahlink! If you and I were to team up, the world would most likely hit the bunkers and call out into the universe for backup.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 18:03:23 GMT -5
Message board egomania seems to be running rampant.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 18:04:12 GMT -5
You can't make this stuff up. Oh, I'm tearing up here. don't laugh, bro. management of this board might be next.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 14, 2013 18:06:59 GMT -5
I'll have you know, dj, I'm highly sensitive. I'm sensitive to mold, and certain pollens ... like those freaking pines!
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 18:07:55 GMT -5
I'll have you know, dj, I'm highly sensitive. I'm sensitive to mold, and certain pollens ... like those freaking pines! it turns out that my wife is sensitive to CATS. i am very distraught.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 14, 2013 18:09:41 GMT -5
Oh, noez! Not cats! That must qualify as a disability! Gotta have cats! (Want a couple?)
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 14, 2013 18:12:16 GMT -5
Oh, noez! Not cats! That must qualify as a disability! Gotta have cats! (Want a couple?) um...no. we have FOUR.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 14, 2013 18:15:08 GMT -5
Ouch! You have one more than I do, but my daughter and SIL have us both beat. Counting his "business cats", they've got ten! Must be tough on your wife, though. I hope her symptoms aren't too miserable.
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