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Post by thyme4change on Apr 26, 2013 12:00:32 GMT -5
Geeze - I just looked at list of doctors, and not one of them appeared to have a "white person" name. I guess I will have Indian doctors from now on. What are all the white people doing? Are we just lawyers now?
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white people are all out picking their own fruit and watching reruns of My So Called Life.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Apr 26, 2013 12:16:20 GMT -5
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Post by kittensaver on Apr 26, 2013 12:19:49 GMT -5
What's wrong with an Indian doctor? My orthopaedic surgeon was Indian, and he did an AWESOME job of putting me back together. I could have been damaged for the rest of my life - seriously.
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Post by midjd on Apr 26, 2013 12:21:14 GMT -5
My cousin is a PhD psychologist, but as my grandpa likes to tell her, that's not the same as being a "real" doctor. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 12:23:05 GMT -5
Geeze - I just looked at list of doctors, and not one of them appeared to have a "white person" name. I guess I will have Indian doctors from now on. What are all the white people doing? Are we just lawyers now? I don't know! thyme Our Son's engineer and he's half caucasian. He said in his department over 40% is Asian. By the way he's in Arizona. |
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Post by justme on Apr 26, 2013 12:26:29 GMT -5
All of my Drs happen to be white, but I have noticed the trend. So far I've stuck with only picking Drs that were trained in the US (and probably Canada or Europe but honestly I've never come across those). Maybe wrongly so, but I'm wary of a Dr that went to school in some random ass Caribbean island I've never heard of or well any country I've never heard of or third world countries.
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Post by kittensaver on Apr 26, 2013 12:33:00 GMT -5
All of my Drs happen to be white, but I have noticed the trend. So far I've stuck with only picking Drs that were trained in the US (and probably Canada or Europe but honestly I've never come across those). Maybe wrongly so, but I'm wary of a Dr that went to school in some random ass Caribbean island I've never heard of or well any country I've never heard of or third world countries. My Indian surgeon trained at Stanford. Good enough for me!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 12:39:05 GMT -5
All of my Drs happen to be white, but I have noticed the trend. So far I've stuck with only picking Drs that were trained in the US (and probably Canada or Europe but honestly I've never come across those). Maybe wrongly so, but I'm wary of a Dr that went to school in some random ass Caribbean island I've never heard of or well any country I've never heard of or third world countries. My Indian surgeon trained at Stanford. Good enough for me! Most of them are trained in US. That's what I saw in my neck of the woods.  |
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 26, 2013 12:42:44 GMT -5
What's wrong with an Indian doctor? My orthopaedic surgeon was Indian, and he did an AWESOME job of putting me back together. I could have been damaged for the rest of my life - seriously. Nothing wrong with an Indian doctor. Just an observation. Another observation I have is that the number of women doctors I have had continues to increase. Once we leave the pediatrician, I may not have any regular male doctors. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 12:48:37 GMT -5
Geeze - I just looked at list of doctors, and not one of them appeared to have a "white person" name. I guess I will have Indian doctors from now on. What are all the white people doing? Are we just lawyers now? two of the people in the top 5 in our HS graduating class are doctors. Both are white and had the typical, idyllic white middle-class upbringing. And why does being smart = being a doctor? Also, there could be a black person with a "white" sounding name - like John Brown or something. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 12:50:44 GMT -5
What's wrong with an Indian doctor? My orthopaedic surgeon was Indian, and he did an AWESOME job of putting me back together. I could have been damaged for the rest of my life - seriously. Another observation I have is that the number of women doctors I have had continues to increase. That trend is in all over the places. And other trend what I saw recently few young generation is willing to become a doctor. Too long of commitment and money's the factor. |
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 26, 2013 12:54:09 GMT -5
Geeze - I just looked at list of doctors, and not one of them appeared to have a "white person" name. I guess I will have Indian doctors from now on. What are all the white people doing? Are we just lawyers now? two of the people in the top 5 in our HS graduating class are doctors. Both are white and had the typical, idyllic white middle-class upbringing. And why does being smart = being a doctor? Also, there could be a black person with a "white" sounding name - like John Brown or something. I hope I don't have any dumb doctors. I didn't see any white people names, so there could be a black person with a white sounding name, but that person wasn't on my list. Now, there could be a black person with an Indian sounding name on that list. And, there could be a white person with an Indian sounding name. I was just surprised that there weren't any Smiths or Carlsons on the list. |
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Post by kittensaver on Apr 26, 2013 13:01:52 GMT -5
What's wrong with an Indian doctor? My orthopaedic surgeon was Indian, and he did an AWESOME job of putting me back together. I could have been damaged for the rest of my life - seriously. Nothing wrong with an Indian doctor. Just an observation. Another observation I have is that the number of women doctors I have had continues to increase. Once we leave the pediatrician, I may not have any regular male doctors. I hear ya, thyme. Good observation, actually. Except for the twice-needed surgeon, my doctors are now female. I'm done with male gynos getting all up in my lady parts. I experienced two of them who treated me badly (patronizing, not giving me all the choices, demeaning me for my choices). Done. My female doctors are AWESOME. They are smart, knowledgeable, kind, caring - and they listen!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 13:02:52 GMT -5
I meant that there are smart people in other professions. Although I do know one Asian girl who was in pharmacy school at my college and is now an infectious disease specialist at a MD hospital. I'm sure she's smart, but her idea of studying for exams was to essentially write all her class notes on index cards (her notes could have been another textbook) and attempt to memorize them word for word.  |
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Post by justme on Apr 26, 2013 13:10:59 GMT -5
All of my Drs happen to be white, but I have noticed the trend. So far I've stuck with only picking Drs that were trained in the US (and probably Canada or Europe but honestly I've never come across those). Maybe wrongly so, but I'm wary of a Dr that went to school in some random ass Caribbean island I've never heard of or well any country I've never heard of or third world countries. My Indian surgeon trained at Stanford. Good enough for me! Trained as in residency at Stanford or school? Not familiar with all the MD schooling jargon.  I couldn't care less where they're from/grew up - I look at if they are board certified and where their school was. It's been so long I don't remember if my insurance site says where their residency was or not, but I'd look at that too. My current primary care Dr kicks ass at recommendations, so I haven't had to look for a Dr on my own since I found her. Half of the recommendations she's given me either she or her family member sees that Dr. |
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Post by lynnerself on Apr 26, 2013 13:50:05 GMT -5
I work in a clinic of 20 docs.
3 asian, one african american, all the others white(ish) as far as I know. None are indian yet, but we are recruiting all the time.
DH has 2 heart docs. His primary (the intervention speicalist) is Indian, but I deffinately did all of his schooling here and may be born here (no detectable accent).
The surgeon who put in his pacemaker (they call him the "electrcian" in his clinic) is your typical short white guy with an attidtude type surgeon.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 26, 2013 13:58:48 GMT -5
The only problem I have is working with anyone who has a very thick accent. I continue to work hard to understand people with different accents, but I have a really hard time understanding medical jargon - so if it is someone who is explaining something to me and they have a thick accent, I get frustrated. I felt that way in college when I had a super-smart, but impossible to understand stats teacher. And medical is probably the scariest place for me. It is just totally out of my league. I often think about less educated people who come from another country and then try to communicate with doctors here. Must be terrifying. I also felt anxiety when I watched the guy getting his leg checked out on The Amazing Race. Having to go through a translator, etc, totally scary to me.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Apr 26, 2013 14:05:37 GMT -5
My cousin is a PhD psychologist, but as my grandpa likes to tell her, that's not the same as being a "real" doctor. I always thought it was a bit odd that lawyers and pharmacists were never called doctor. Since they earn a "Juris Doctor" and a "Doctor of Pharmacy" degree. |
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Post by midjd on Apr 26, 2013 14:45:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess I can see the reason for the distinction since "doctor" has medical connotations almost anywhere you go (unless you're on a college campus). Seems like pharmacists should have some official title besides Mr./Ms. _____, though. I have a lawyer acquaintance who has a whole schtick how he is "technically a doctor," but he's such a twerp it makes me want to disassociate from anyone who uses the term "juris doctor." |
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Post by hoops902 on Apr 26, 2013 14:49:03 GMT -5
My cousin is a PhD psychologist, but as my grandpa likes to tell her, that's not the same as being a "real" doctor. I always thought it was a bit odd that lawyers and pharmacists were never called doctor. Since they earn a "Juris Doctor" and a "Doctor of Pharmacy" degree. I've never seen a pharmacist who wasn't called "doctor". I think for attorneys it's likely because doctor tends to be used in academia and medicine. I know several other people with doctorates who are not in medicine or education and none of them get called doctor. |
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Post by swamp on Apr 26, 2013 14:49:04 GMT -5
I live in whiter than white mayo land and most of the docs at the hospital are Indian. Nobody wants to come here.
And pharmacists aren't necessarily doctors. DH is an RPh, and does not have a doctorate. He graduated before they were requiring doctorates. He only has a bachelor's in pharmacy. |
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Post by The Captain on Apr 26, 2013 15:43:59 GMT -5
I hope I don't have any dumb doctors. What do you call someone who graduated bottom of their class in medical school? Doctor. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 16:50:20 GMT -5
There seems to be an increasing percentage of Asian/Indian doctors where I live too. I think part of it is that people come here for grad school from all over the world and if they are motivated to move to another country for school then they are probably going to pick something tough to do, being all motivated and shizzit. And it might be a chicken and egg thing - lots of the doctors I see with ethnic last names were born and raised in the U.S. or have lived here most of their lives but their parents came over on a work visa or some other type of visa that is easier to get if you are an engineer or doctor - so passing those cultural and educational values down to your kids. DH's best friends growing up were Indian - their dad held one of the patents for Aleve. I offended my Indian dentist by asking him where he was born - it's actually the same town we live in. But I wasn't born in the U.S. so I guess I didn't think about how that question would appear. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 17:40:10 GMT -5
My doctor is French. Does that count? She went to medical school right here at UCSF. I teased her a bit because Kaiser has them list the languages the doctors speak. I asked her how often she gets to speak French at Kaiser. She said she has a surprising number of French patients. Who knew so many French speakers live in the SF Bay Area?
I noticed the foreign doctor trend here at Kaiser 20 years ago. At the time, there were a lot of (then) Eastern European docs and Asian (as you would expect). I thought it was due to Kaiser being a HMO vs private practice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 17:42:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess I can see the reason for the distinction since "doctor" has medical connotations almost anywhere you go (unless you're on a college campus). Seems like pharmacists should have some official title besides Mr./Ms. _____, though. I have a lawyer acquaintance who has a whole schtick how he is "technically a doctor," but he's such a twerp it makes me want to disassociate from anyone who uses the term "juris doctor." Do you call him "Esquire"? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 11:15:57 GMT -5
It's a trend in education right now that most of our math team, debate team, and scholars' bowl team have unpronounceable names. Part of that, I think, is because we are fairly close to UAB and several other universities. It's a proven fact that Alabama (the state) attracts many foreign students because it is first in a listing of states. UAB is also a major medical school.
We also have a couple of IB schools in the area including one in my district. Their last names aren't pronounceable, either. The counselor had to come to my classroom to practice saying names for graduation. Even names that look like ordinary names aren't. How many of you would pronounce "Kyra" as "Keira"? How about "Alyssa" as "Alicia"? I'm beginning to think their parents couldn't spell.
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