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Post by chiver78 on Apr 19, 2013 13:16:04 GMT -5
haha, I'll keep that in mind. I'm at the mercy of whatever's in the Redbox lineup.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 16:48:57 GMT -5
It seems pretty unbelieveable that they haven't gotten him yet. I'm thinking maybe he's dead somewhere of the injuries he sustained last night in the shoot-out.
I have been watching CNN ALL day but now DH has changed the channel. GRRR!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 16:55:32 GMT -5
So, the question is not only "why bomb", but, "why bomb Boston?"
This is JUST MY OPINION, and worth exactly what you paid for it. I think it was Boston because they lived in Boston, and knew Boston. Unlike the 9/11 terrorists, they were not flown into the US to do the carnage that they did. They robbed the 7/11 because they had no money, and nowhere to go. NOT the profile of somebody flown in to do damages. NOT the profile of people with a "group" behind them.
This said, I think the older brother was (to use the expression on US TV) "radicalized", and that he got his younger brother into it.
Again, this is just my UNEDUCATED opinion from what I know, what I have read, and what I have gathered from watching the news.
Suspect 2 came into the US just before his 8th birthday, and appeared (from what people have said) to have assimilated. He apparently had a ton of friends. Suspect 1 came into the US when he was 20, and recently posted that he didn't have even one friend in the US. Suspect 2 was at a four-year college, Suspect 1 was at a community college but dropped out to box.
In any case, it does NOT seem to me that some terrorist group sent them over, with funding, from one of the 'Stans'.
I am frankly amazed that they were still in the US. I was thinking that maybe they'd gotten out of Boston, and maybe they were here in France by now.
In any case, to me, it seems that they didn't have a lot of "resources" to rely on. If they did, they'd probably be near me.
My guess is that they were on a long-term mission (maybe next year's Marathon?) and Big Bro decided he would "jump the gun" and become a star, and go out in a blaze of glory, and all that.
Again, my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Apr 19, 2013 17:08:34 GMT -5
I find it so eerie that it was a marathon and most of the people's injuries were to their legs....there is just something so very cruel about it on top of all.....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 17:12:02 GMT -5
I agree, Lena, it is SUCH a cruel twist of fate.
Are you guys OK? Have you had news of your DH?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 17:22:02 GMT -5
The ENTIRE city is on lock-down, and looking for this guy.
I really think he's most likely dead by now. Either from a self-inflicted wound, or by injuries sustained during the shoot-out last night.
I honestly think that a 19YO who was "an angel" (per the commenters) for years could probably not hack the pressure. Plus the fact that per CNN (which may be wrong) he actually ran his brother over in the flight last night.
CNN is now saying that "he got away". My guess is he's lying dead somewhere, but hey, who knows.
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Post by chiver78 on Apr 19, 2013 17:28:13 GMT -5
CNN is correct that he ran his brother's body over last night, that's been reported very widely from a police source. as far as him "getting away", I think that's probably a little early to tell.
there was just a press conference now, the governor lifted the lockdown under the thought that they can't keep the whole state locked down while they look for one guy. they went door to door for a 20-block area, searching in and around each house and turned up nothing. I hope that they can find him soon, because he clearly doesn't care if he dies or who he takes with him.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Apr 19, 2013 17:31:33 GMT -5
Yeah, we are fine, we are about 40 miles north, pretty quiet here. Just did gardening all day.... thank you so much for asking
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Post by Formerly SK on Apr 19, 2013 17:40:52 GMT -5
So, the question is not only "why bomb", but, "why bomb Boston?"
This is JUST MY OPINION, and worth exactly what you paid for it. I think it was Boston because they lived in Boston, and knew Boston. Unlike the 9/11 terrorists, they were not flown into the US to do the carnage that they did. They robbed the 7/11 because they had no money, and nowhere to go. NOT the profile of somebody flown in to do damages. NOT the profile of people with a "group" behind them. This said, I think the older brother was (to use the expression on US TV) "radicalized", and that he got his younger brother into it. Again, this is just my UNEDUCATED opinion from what I know, what I have read, and what I have gathered from watching the news. Suspect 2 came into the US just before his 8th birthday, and appeared (from what people have said) to have assimilated. He apparently had a ton of friends. Suspect 1 came into the US when he was 20, and recently posted that he didn't have even one friend in the US. Suspect 2 was at a four-year college, Suspect 1 was at a community college but dropped out to box. In any case, it does NOT seem to me that some terrorist group sent them over, with funding, from one of the 'Stans'. I am frankly amazed that they were still in the US. I was thinking that maybe they'd gotten out of Boston, and maybe they were here in France by now. In any case, to me, it seems that they didn't have a lot of "resources" to rely on. If they did, they'd probably be near me. My guess is that they were on a long-term mission (maybe next year's Marathon?) and Big Bro decided he would "jump the gun" and become a star, and go out in a blaze of glory, and all that. Again, my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. I don't even feel solid about calling it terrorism. I mean, maybe it's just some sociopaths who wanted to kill a bunch of people and chose bombs instead of guns. The Columbine kids had bombs (they didn't work) as well as guns. Since we haven't heard anything political about the brothers, it seems premature to speculate they are terrorists. JMO.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Apr 19, 2013 17:41:18 GMT -5
DH didn't leave the house until 3:30 today he's been so glued to the TV about this. You all please stay safe and I hope they catch the brother soon. I'm hoping since the older one is dead now the younger one won't continue with these heinous acts. So horrible!
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:00:59 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS: half an hour after the lockdown was lifted, multiple explosions and heavy gunfire in Watertown -- a body found in a backyard -- police swarming back in...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:02:33 GMT -5
I'm glad Lena! I was worried about you guys.
SK, I understand your POV but I personally feel comfortable with that appellation.
DH finally went to bed and I put CNN back on, but now I need to go to bed.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:08:15 GMT -5
Not a body -- live person hiding in a boat in a backyard...
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:08:45 GMT -5
The neighborhood is being evacuated...again...sigh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:10:33 GMT -5
GRG thank you for the updates!
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:16:46 GMT -5
3 armored swat vehicles just entered the area.
(I'm sorry to lean on you all like this. It has been a long and stressful week. DH won't be home until 11 tonight and I've been home all day with the kids, including one who it turns out is genuinely sick. I just need to vent with (SILENTLY) to someone. Thanks for not judging. )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:16:56 GMT -5
4 or 5 people firing, at least two dozen shots, then silence. Fully automatic weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:19:17 GMT -5
(((Hugs GRG!)))
ETA: Don't be silly, nobody is judging you! I hope your DH gets home safe and sound. xoxo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:23:54 GMT -5
FBI interviewed older bro in 2011 at the request of an (unnamed) foreign gov't bec he was suspected of having "ties".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:26:41 GMT -5
FBI confirms that they interviewed older bro at the request of a foreign government because they suspected him of "ties" to "extremists". Nothing came of it and they moved on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:27:54 GMT -5
Not my opinion anymore, just summarizing.
Tension way down (ok this is my opinion again), looks like they got Suspect 2. GRG said he was in a boat, CNN said he was in "a structure".
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:30:03 GMT -5
Homeowner was in his backyard after the lockdown was lifted and noticed blood on his boat stored in his backyard and alerted authorities.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:31:47 GMT -5
Cops walking around the location in Watertown WITHOUT the protections they were wearing before.
Job done, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:32:35 GMT -5
Wow GRG!
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:35:46 GMT -5
Cops walking around the location in Watertown WITHOUT the protections they were wearing before. Job done, I think. More police moving in. More SWAT teams. Being described as a very active scene. Ambulances now moving in.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:36:16 GMT -5
Ambulances being called in over the police radios. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/melancholy.png)
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Apr 19, 2013 18:36:31 GMT -5
Darkness setting in...
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Post by chiver78 on Apr 19, 2013 18:36:44 GMT -5
3 armored swat vehicles just entered the area. (I'm sorry to lean on you all like this. It has been a long and stressful week. DH won't be home until 11 tonight and I've been home all day with the kids, including one who it turns out is genuinely sick. I just need to vent with (SILENTLY) to someone. Thanks for not judging. ) no judging here.....I think I'll be in here more tonight than on FB. in the past hour, I've seen all kinds of graphic photos from Monday that I've otherwise been able to avoid, as well as the damn morgue photo of suspect #1 that's been leaked out, all posted by friends of mine and appearing in my news feed. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/sick.png) I've hidden everything for now, but I do not have the stomach for that stuff......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2013 18:37:35 GMT -5
CNN says they are waiting for confirmation that "they have him".
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