Jake 48
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Post by Jake 48 on Feb 7, 2011 12:51:35 GMT -5
DI, I believe Ford has a new gas engine that matches the diesel in hp and has quite a bit of torque. What are you towing that you would need the diesel. Also I work with guys that have diesels in their pick ups, lot more maintenance and cost and 90% of them don't even work the truck.
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tractor
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Post by tractor on Feb 7, 2011 13:45:32 GMT -5
I don't think the cost of ownership is higher when you factor everything in. Now I will admit I don't have a "new" Diesel, mine is a 1997 F250 with just under 300,000 miles on it and other than more expensive oil changes (it takes 15 quarts), the additional cost of the fuel has been more than offset by the better gas mileage and longevity. I pull a gooseneck flatbed trailer with it and have been more than happy with the mileage, power, etc.
I have never heard of exhaust fluid, although I would guess that it's some kind of sulphur replacement that you could use now that all Diesel fuel is low sulphur? The new engines are supposed to run on the pump gas without any additives so I would keep checking into it.
If I was buying another truck today, I would buy a Diesel. As it is, I hope mine goes for another 10 years or so before I need to start looking.
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Post by tractor on Feb 7, 2011 15:21:12 GMT -5
I looked up some more info on the Diesel exhaust fluid, never heard of it before, but I see it's urea that helps break down the exhaust fumes. I would think that a dealer would be able to tell you how much you will need, there was an on-line calculator to estimate your use, but I couldn't get it to work.
One thing to keep in mind if you only want to use your truck for off-roading, Diesels are front end heavy (the motors weight more than their gas counterparts) and I can have trouble backing up on wet grass without locking in the four wheel drive. The big advantage is their pulling power and longevity. If your main reason was to have a better off-road truck, don't go with a Diesel, you will probably be better off with a gas motor, you will also get a higher reeving engine which would help get through some of the rough spots.
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Post by rick on Feb 7, 2011 16:18:51 GMT -5
Okie Dokie
What has been said is very true about tje diesels. Here is my take on them, and I have been working on them for a long time.
First off from what you have said you dont need a diesel. You want one, and here is where you are going to run into troubles. You will never work it enough to justify it from what you have said. The cost of getting a diesel and the extra maintanence and fuel you will be in the hole from day one. Out of pocket to start on the ford to start is about 10k, that and fuel you will need to work it hard to make up the difference. As far as plowing with it, I would never put a plow on a truck I planned on as a family vehicle. Plows are tongh on trucks, buy a used one for less money , work it and throw it away. .
The extra fluid from what I have heard ( I retired from wrenching full time 2 years ago) will go about a tank per oil changes, they use very little and it is the new epa standard on new.
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Post by rick on Feb 7, 2011 16:29:17 GMT -5
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