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Post by grits on Jan 2, 2013 22:39:54 GMT -5
There are different love languages. Some people can verbally say I love you. Other people show it through things they do for you. We aren't all wired the same. My grandma couldn't say it with words but she'd show it with things she did for you, and how she'd rub your back. My grandmother could do things for you, and she'd say it. She'd call you "Heart felt", "love", and she told me I was her, "Shining star".
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 2, 2013 22:45:43 GMT -5
Indeed, Zee. I tend to consider love to be one of those ideals that can never be completely realised. That is to say, it seems to have infinite depth and so one stands always to garner a deeper understanding of it with further experience. Conversely, those with little experience have but a shallow understanding, perhaps often confused with infatuation, emotional dependency, or some other impostor borne of naivety.Experience being key, I think, for when one experiences it first-hand it cannot help but trigger realisations as to its nature, and with further experience its nature is further revealed. Therefore, in the gentleman's case you note, I would prescribe perseverance. I lack the experience - I can see that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 23:07:34 GMT -5
Its easy to say and seldom real.
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Post by femmefatale on Jan 3, 2013 0:55:49 GMT -5
I tend to disagree, Apps...it isn't easy for me to say, at all. With friends, it is....one's that I am really close with but not with guys. The heart has got to be in it, for me....And if I say it, it is definitely real. By the way, have I told you, I love you, my friend?
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 3, 2013 6:01:00 GMT -5
Indeed, Zee. I tend to consider love to be one of those ideals that can never be completely realised. That is to say, it seems to have infinite depth and so one stands always to garner a deeper understanding of it with further experience. Conversely, those with little experience have but a shallow understanding, perhaps often confused with infatuation, emotional dependency, or some other impostor borne of naivety.Experience being key, I think, for when one experiences it first-hand it cannot help but trigger realisations as to its nature, and with further experience its nature is further revealed. Therefore, in the gentleman's case you note, I would prescribe perseverance. I lack the experience - I can see thatI don't think you lack the experience with love, ZinHD, it maybe a phase of just pure bad luck that you're zooming through and/or not having the right person to 'love' you back in return. Its easy to say and seldom real. Easier said than done too.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 3, 2013 6:48:02 GMT -5
I think there is different types of love. I certainly love my friends and my pets.....though probably not as much as my kids or partner. I've said it to the kids every day of their lives...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 7:44:15 GMT -5
I lack the experience - I can see that lol Z, that was supposed to be positive. Maybe the best advice would be not to take anyone's advice. Its easy to say and seldom real. Perhaps it is seldom real to those who find it easy to say. There is functional love, I reckon. A semblance of love pantomimed by people who have watched too many TV dramas or read too many fairytale romance novels, who have been compelled into melodramatic delusion by an underlying need to fill some vacuum within. 'Love', in this sense, serves the purpose of a crutch upon which to rest one's insecurities. An emotional disorder fanned by the media. The heart has got to be in it, for me....And if I say it, it is definitely real.
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Post by femmefatale on Jan 3, 2013 9:48:42 GMT -5
Absofreakinglutely!! I couldn't have said this any better. As time goes by, you grow in wisdom and also in experience. Some, that I thought I loved when I was younger, I now, realize, it was a crush and etc. When I felt real love for the first time, it was an overwhelming experience for me and the older I get the more I understand what it truly is. As Astro said, you garner a deeper understanding for it...very true. Great post, Astro.
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Post by femmefatale on Jan 3, 2013 9:53:43 GMT -5
I also will agree with mmhmm...There are many forms of love. The love we have for our friends, family, pets, and children, our spouse...are all different.
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 3, 2013 11:00:32 GMT -5
Z, I dunno if you've caught my opinion/s on true love but what do you think about people having partners and declaring love for them yet are flirting away behind their backs? What kinda love is that? It's not true at all. Do you think one must be loyal to their partner in the matter of expressing love that it has to be them and only them for romantic love?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 12:24:30 GMT -5
I tend to disagree, Apps...it isn't easy for me to say, at all. With friends, it is....one's that I am really close with but not with guys. The heart has got to be in it, for me....And if I say it, it is definitely real. By the way, have I told you, I love you, my friend? awww.. I love you too! I can and do say I love you all the time to my family and friends. I just know that often times people say I love you and don't really know what it means or they have an agenda. Not dissing love here, just the over-use of the word.
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Post by femmefatale on Jan 3, 2013 13:02:04 GMT -5
I tend to disagree, Apps...it isn't easy for me to say, at all. With friends, it is....one's that I am really close with but not with guys. The heart has got to be in it, for me....And if I say it, it is definitely real. By the way, have I told you, I love you, my friend? awww.. I love you too! I can and do say I love you all the time to my family and friends. I just know that often times people say I love you and don't really know what it means or they have an agenda. Not dissing love here, just the over-use of the word. I do agree, apps...some people slang it around like it's a yo - yo...
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 3, 2013 23:27:07 GMT -5
agreed then... love is determine by the receiver. if Gaga is on stage and ends her show with I love you all my little monsters Shooby can take that personally or take that generally I'm a fan of Shooby so when she said Love Ya Zaire! yes I like it - feels nice but I know it's general - not something special However if Shooby said Zaire I Love You and just want you to be happy, and happy with yourself moving forward in your life. THAT! Hmmm.... ;D
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 3, 2013 23:57:11 GMT -5
Z, I dunno if you've caught my opinion/s on true love but what do you think about people having partners and declaring love for them yet are flirting away behind their backs? What kinda love is that? It's not true at all. Do you think one must be loyal to their partner in the matter of expressing love that it has to be them and only them for romantic love? Hmmm....I can see this is not gonna turn out nice...BUT straight up IMO to answer your questions: 1) what do you think about people having partners and declaring love for them yet are flirting away behind their backs? flirting and NOT sex, actual intercourse. fine no problem.2) What kinda love is that? it also depends on what level a person considers cheating. if someone feels that when their significant other is only THINKING about another person in any way, and feels that is cheating! well then any form of flirting is an issue. But flirting to me is nothing to be concerned about3) Do you think one must be loyal to their partner in the matter of expressing love that it has to be them and only them for romantic love? no I feel bad telling you no - because I think we are on opposite sides of loyalty. I can understand how people feel that flirting is a doorway leading to cheating. to me flirting is just a crave someone may feel getting the reactions from their flirting. I also don't believe in one true love. I do feel their can be one person that no other person can top. meaning I've loved this person the most.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 4, 2013 0:11:03 GMT -5
Then PLEASE stop stringing your live-in girlfriend along - and tell HER that so she'll know how you really feel about love.
I'm not sure you even know what love is - you said on the Fair Weather Friends thread tonite that even your close friends mean nothing to you:
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Post by femmefatale on Jan 4, 2013 0:53:19 GMT -5
Zaire, what it all boils down to is, it is solely up to you what you want to do with your life. You can sit here and be ridiculed to death by certain ones ( maybe you like that sort of attention)...idk But, why air the dirty laundry for the world to see? Take your time, do what you wanna do and live your life. Emotions are tricky. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 4, 2013 10:26:05 GMT -5
Z, I dunno if you've caught my opinion/s on true love but what do you think about people having partners and declaring love for them yet are flirting away behind their backs? What kinda love is that? It's not true at all. Do you think one must be loyal to their partner in the matter of expressing love that it has to be them and only them for romantic love? Hmmm....I can see this is not gonna turn out nice...BUT straight up IMO to answer your questions:1) what do you think about people having partners and declaring love for them yet are flirting away behind their backs? flirting and NOT sex, actual intercourse. fine no problem.2) What kinda love is that? it also depends on what level a person considers cheating. if someone feels that when their significant other is only THINKING about another person in any way, and feels that is cheating! well then any form of flirting is an issue. But flirting to me is nothing to be concerned about3) Do you think one must be loyal to their partner in the matter of expressing love that it has to be them and only them for romantic love? no I feel bad telling you no - because I think we are on opposite sides of loyalty. I can understand how people feel that flirting is a doorway leading to cheating. to me flirting is just a crave someone may feel getting the reactions from their flirting. I also don't believe in one true love. I do feel their can be one person that no other person can top. meaning I've loved this person the most. It is indeed a matter of perception. To me, if you're excessively and continuously flirting with someone in a sexual way then that is cheating. To think about someone else in a sexual way and wanting to be with them other than your partner then again that is cheating. There may be degrees of love and hence of cheating too. I also believe in one lover shining above the others. I believe I made a mention of this too in one of the threads recently. Anyway, I was interested in your opinions.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 4, 2013 12:30:38 GMT -5
OH! That went Faarrrr better than what I was expecting ;D
Flirting in a sexual way? I wasn't thinking flirting could be in a sexual in a sexual way. if someone is doing that then yea Rose you and I are on the same page as that is cheating. or looking to cheat.
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 4, 2013 12:34:25 GMT -5
lol Z, you think I'm that feisty. Flirting, believe me, can become sexual when prolonged more than necessary. I've had my share of flirting in some form of sexual ways too but I've never been in a relationship then. If I was, I would sure be damn cheating on my partner. Sometimes prevention is better than cure.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 4, 2013 13:45:17 GMT -5
Rose - Thanks
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 4, 2013 13:55:48 GMT -5
I'm going to move Zaire's posts about his relationships, and all that responded to said posts, into his other thread talking about the same thing. There's no need to turn this thread into a further discussion of a thread that already exists. Well Rose I would like to discuss further about flirting - BUT I am not allowed to go off topic in a thread. so I'll start one about flirting
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 4, 2013 14:01:24 GMT -5
Where in what you quoted, Z, is there anything about going off topic? The subject of your quoted passage was exactly the opposite, in fact. It was about duplicating a topic already being discussed.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 4, 2013 14:05:13 GMT -5
oh! good point - I didn't see that before I misunderstood
Thanks M ;D
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 4, 2013 14:12:34 GMT -5
Heh, thank you for the Karma, Z and have some in return too. I enjoy our discussions. Yeh, it would be nice if you can start a thread on flirting. I sure do have some thoughts on the matter.
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jan 13, 2013 11:49:04 GMT -5
I've seen posters post one another 'I Love You' messages, images and emoticons etc. After some time you get used to it that it seems fake and playful. Now how true is that love in cyberspace?
Especially if that love fest comes at a price of leaving your ex-posting mates behind? Is love ever so selfish?
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Post by grits on Jan 13, 2013 11:49:53 GMT -5
It's just like a baby's smile. I love you means they have gas.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 14, 2013 13:08:22 GMT -5
Lord love a duck, he keeps track of this. That's one of my favorite sayings. DHs uncle was going to be a priest, but changed his mind and got married. He was still super religious and couldn't cuss. He said this all the time. (If he were cussing, he'd probably end up in Hell!) I picked it up from him.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 14, 2013 13:36:30 GMT -5
The definition of love: When you care more about someone else, than yourself. What do you think?
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 15, 2013 0:18:59 GMT -5
I used to put everyone before myself. I was the one that people could call on and I would say yes to help, if I didn't want to or not. Then I had a change of heart and was told that is not such a good idea to do. so I stopped.
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Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 21, 2013 22:35:55 GMT -5
so it's agreed!! depends on the situation and people involved. I think now I will let go! just let go and relax, stop being so serious! I Love You is an expression and it's heart felt. just because a co-worker comes by gives me kiss and says thanks "Love ya" it's WOW to me yea - great Job for Zaire!! versus my GF gives me a kiss and says thanks "I Love You" WOW nice recognition and still great job Zaire! I can see me using the term more often now on
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