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Post by Opti on Nov 27, 2012 13:38:36 GMT -5
Mandatory might mean there are possible paycheck implications? I may be mis-remembering but with one of my many employers there might have been fine print of if you fail to give X amount of notice they can?could not pay you the last two weeks of pay? Or perhaps my unused vacation days if any would not be paid.
If she is really concerned she should look through her initial hire documents and talk to HR to clarify what they mean.
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Post by hoops902 on Nov 27, 2012 13:45:57 GMT -5
::Maybe she meant "customary" but said "mandatory". ::
I hear a lot of people say "mandatory" when what they really mean is "my employer told me I have to"...or "I'm not eligible for rehire if I don't".
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Post by garion2003 on Nov 27, 2012 15:28:36 GMT -5
if she is having trouble with an 'at will' employer before she even STARTS, how will she handle it in a month? in a year? Heck she's signed something. I had less than that when I gave notice at my last job!! ( I did have a verbal offer and they were doing a background check which I'd knew I'd pass). The biggest issue was the woman who did the letters was away for a week
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Nov 27, 2012 18:44:28 GMT -5
My institution ( employer ) will rescind job offers after people have quit their other jobs if they put on a "hiring freeze." I heard it happened to some unfortunate people just last year. They'll keep hiring clinical staff, but not adjunct staff like myself. Sad if people got burned.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 19:33:58 GMT -5
I think it's common to require a two week notice to be paid vacation... but other than that I don't know if there would be any way to enforce it. The company could have you arrested if you don't give 2 weeks notice. What are you talking about? Unless you specifically signed some kind of contract, they can't have you arrested for leaving. If it is at will employment you can walk out anytime you want too unless you have signed some type of contract indicating otherwise. Nowadays, as soon as you give notice, a lot of employers have you clean out your desk and literally walk you to your car that day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 22:43:48 GMT -5
At my co, if you don't give two weeks notice your vacation does not get paid out & your file is marked not eligible for rehire.
If you have a written job offer that you have accepted, you left your employer in good faith for the new job, and then offer was rescinded - you would be eligible for unemployment benefits. The employer you voluntarily left would actually get tagged for the UE event & they might choose to offer you your job back rather than have you on UE.
Leaving on good terms is a smart thing to do. You might want a reference from the company you left some day.
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Post by cubefarmer on Nov 27, 2012 23:28:50 GMT -5
It is normal where I work. The problem is the background check and fingerprinting thing. This company doesn't drug test. You have to provide an absolutely accurate employment history - they verify all of it. If you are not eligible for rehire at past employers it is a deal breaker. (And sometimes you can think you are eligible for re-hire but you really aren't.) Also they do a credit check. You can't be in default with anyone. I have even heard of people who started the new job here and 2 weeks into it they were told they didn't have the job. Check the company related indeed dot com forum if it is big company. The bigger ones are listed and people post their experiences.
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Post by justme on Nov 27, 2012 23:40:56 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Unless you specifically signed some kind of contract, they can't have you arrested for leaving. If it is at will employment you can walk out anytime you want too unless you have signed some type of contract indicating otherwise. Nowadays, as soon as you give notice, a lot of employers have you clean out your desk and literally walk you to your car that day. You're right Shooby, that's just silly being arrested. I was told by my company they will shoot you if you don't give 2 weeks notice. Even if you sign a contract they can't have you arrested. It's Archie I think the YM rules state you have to read everything he says with sarcasm first, and then reread if it doesn't fit.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Nov 28, 2012 0:47:52 GMT -5
I got arrested once for not giving two weeks notice. In all seriousness, teachers in Oregon must give 60 days notice or the district currently employing them can file to have their teaching licenses examined. In regards to accepting a position and waiting to give notice: A few years ago, I waited until the drug test went through and the school board approved the hire before I gave notice. However, because of summer vacation, I was just approaching 75 day notice at that point. I do think it's stressful when changing jobs. Well, suppose all change is stressful in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 6:49:41 GMT -5
As I said, there might be instances of CONTRACTUAL obligations. In my profession, i have signed a contract with a termination clause so i would expect that it generally has to be abided by or there could be legal action. I don't think anyone would get arrested but possibly sued.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 28, 2012 7:39:40 GMT -5
My institution ( employer ) will rescind job offers after people have quit their other jobs if they put on a "hiring freeze." I heard it happened to some unfortunate people just last year. They'll keep hiring clinical staff, but not adjunct staff like myself. Sad if people got burned. DH was offed a job from a college. They made the offer in writing and told him he would need to start on such and such date. For some reason I told him to not give notice to his job and if he started then to work something out with his present employer. Well the day before he was supposed to start they called up and said the FT position was going to be left unfilled, but that they still wanted him to teach the six courses for adjunct rates with NO benefits. They were sure he would quit his job and take it too.
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