muttleynfelix
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Post by muttleynfelix on Nov 2, 2012 16:21:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 16:43:05 GMT -5
I think that it is very insensitive to those who have lost life/assets, and who still have no power or transportation for God knows how long, to run a race. If you have to run that badly, go outside and do it. Crazy...
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 2, 2012 17:01:06 GMT -5
Why not?
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Post by Empire the P.A. on Nov 2, 2012 17:15:17 GMT -5
They did cancel it. I spent most of my afternoon scrambling to find cops to go to the Marathon and when it was finally scheduled they canceled it. I had a rough day and its been a rough week.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 2, 2012 17:16:45 GMT -5
I didn't prioritize it. I just don't see the point of cancelling it at this point. Rescheduling it is not an option. You seem to forget that I am a born and raised New Yorker. I happen to know that this is a city that gets back on its feet fast, come hell, high water or both and then some. For all I or anyone else knows, the race organizers paid for those generators. They are entitled to do that, and use them as they see fit, if they wish. Bad things happen all the time, all over the world. Other things do not stop happening because of it. You can make me out to be a cold and heartless bitch all you want, but I understand real life and and the real world pretty well. Oh, and if you bothered to read my original post, you noticed I admitted to a bias as a runner. I support what the mayor did. He had to make a decision, period. Either way, he would have been damned. I happen to be on the side of running this event. I read your original post. I also read a good portion of the people who signed the petition to cancel or postpone it......and many of them are runners (those who were planning in this marathons, and who have run in past ones) who think that it is a bad idea as well. Moot point, as the marathon has been canceled.
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Post by steph08 on Nov 2, 2012 17:18:31 GMT -5
Well, in actuality, that is not the same thing. This marathon has been planned for months, years even. It isn't something thrown together overnight. It is not a new event someone "suggested" they hold in the flooded city, it was an event that was scheduled and brings hundreds of millions of revenue every year.
It doesn't matter now since they cancelled, but that is a shitty move. They should have cancelled at the beginning of the week - 2 days before the race means most people are already there if they were traveling a good distance.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 2, 2012 17:22:54 GMT -5
Large $10,000 buy in poker tournaments aren't thrown together over night either. They're planned months and years in advance. The closest name poker tournament to me is the Bay 101 Shooting Stars tourney. It's a World Poker Tour ranking event. Brings in professional players from around the country and world.
If San Jose was devastated by an earthquake a week before the tournament was supposed to happen I would have no problem with them canceling or rescheduling the event so that they could prioritize getting the cities infrastructure back online, searching for survivors, etc.
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Post by steph08 on Nov 2, 2012 17:26:15 GMT -5
Large $10,000 buy in poker tournaments aren't thrown together over night either. They're planned months and years in advance. The closest name poker tournament to me is the Bay 101 Shooting Stars tourney. It's a World Poker Tour ranking event. Brings in professional players from around the country and world. Yep, I know. I watch some tournaments every now and then. . Just meant that this marathon wasn't just suggested and thrown together after the flooding, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 17:32:39 GMT -5
I know that. My response is still "so what". The suggestion of running a marathon through a disaster zone still strikes me as ridiculous.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Nov 2, 2012 17:44:53 GMT -5
It could be worse. It could have been a car race event. They have one that comes through San Jose and they race on closed off city streets. A bunch of masochists running through a disaster zone is weird, but a bunch of rich guys driving their expensive toys through would be super tacky.
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Post by Waffle on Nov 2, 2012 19:30:43 GMT -5
They did cancel it. I spent most of my afternoon scrambling to find cops to go to the Marathon and when it was finally scheduled they canceled it. I had a rough day and its been a rough week. I'm so sorry you had to go through all that work for nothing.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Nov 2, 2012 20:11:24 GMT -5
I thought that it was strange that he wouldn't let the President come to NYC, but the marathoners were all right to show up, and not a drain on the city's resources. I'd rather have the President come and take a look around at the devastation, because he's in a better position to help New Yorkers than the marathoners. It's just a political slam.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Nov 2, 2012 20:20:26 GMT -5
If you are going to run Bloomberg down for something, you could start with him saying he didn't want the National Guard helping. He doesn't want anyone but NYPD carrying guns in NYC. That's absurd if you ask me to turn down help from people trained in disaster recovery because you have a personal agenda against guns.
I don't think there's a good answer. Either way it isn't ideal. People have trained and planned for this for a year or more. And many parts of NYC are still without electric.
The Steelers are flying in Sunday morning because their normal hotel in NJ doesn't have power.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2012 20:32:09 GMT -5
I thought that it was strange that he wouldn't let the President come to NYC, but the marathoners were all right to show up, and not a drain on the city's resources. I'd rather have the President come and take a look around at the devastation, because he's in a better position to help New Yorkers than the marathoners. It's just a political slam. I don't think it was a political slam and I'm an Obama supporter. The president would have been there a little over 24-30 hours after the storm (Wednesday). Obama 's presence would have required too many security resources when little could be spared. The marathon would be four days later when hopefully, a bit or normalcy would have returned to the city.r
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Post by greenstone on Nov 2, 2012 21:27:37 GMT -5
I have tremendous sympathy for the people who lost lives/homes/businesses in the storm, and I also have sympathy for people/sponsors/businesses who are losing money and revenue due to the cancellation of the marathon. Bloomberg did not have a crystal ball several days ago telling him that bodies of storm victims would still be discovered today (and the possibility that they are not the last). Or that electricity wouldn't be restored to lower Manhatten, yada, yada. He had two shitty choices and personally I think he chose the better of the two.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Nov 2, 2012 22:01:27 GMT -5
I am not trying to run Bloomberg down per se; but I do think that some of his post-storm decisions are strange. I can see the issue about the cost and difficulty for providing security for the President, but on the flip side, security for the NYC marathon would have to run as much or more. I didn't know that he refused help from the National Guard. That seems very unwise to me.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 2, 2012 22:13:27 GMT -5
President causes issues wherever he goes. Best he stay away while people who work can get to it.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Nov 2, 2012 22:36:45 GMT -5
I think the way they have handled all the sporting events in NYC has been stupid. They said the basketball game was a go and then changed their minds. Then insisting the marathon would go on, right up until they cancelled it. No they didn't have a crystal ball, but I think they easily could have known yesterday that it was a bad idea. From what I have read, it was everyone on the ground insisting that it was a bad idea that finally made them the Mayor and president of the road runners association realize that they were being unrealistic.
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Post by happyscooter on Nov 3, 2012 7:35:03 GMT -5
i thought bloomberg wanted the marathon to be run because he wanted some 'normalcy' brought back to the city. like governor christie wanted halloween to be held on monday. it sounds crazy but kids don't say 'dad, do you still have a job', 'mom can you cook without power'? no they ask, 'can i still trick or treat in my batman costume?'
and what about after 911, ny was told to live life and try to get back to 'normal'. whatever 'normal' could be at that point.
not defending bloomberg but he was damned if he canceled and damned if he didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2012 7:37:39 GMT -5
I really am not sure what the call should be. On one hand, life still needs to go on and sometimes you just keep going because that is what humans do. But, it is a difficult decision so i am not going to criticize it either way because i really have not made up my mind. I think there are valid points on both sides.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 3, 2012 11:08:11 GMT -5
After watching people in Staten Island and hearing that the locals who are now homeless were not being kicked out of hotels, I was glad to see the marathon cancelled. In the scheme of things, it is not as important as the lives of those affected by the storms.
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