what is the purpose of negotiations.

[deziloooooo]

Was out for a while and had NPR on the radio, and in the broadcast they were talking about negotiations...thinking political , both here in US and foreign, say what is happening in Near East...

It was brought out what a famous political said on the subject but won't mention who and his thoughts on the topic , just interested if posters her have ideas on ot..after runs it's course, thread , will put in this famous political thoughts on the topic were.

[floridayankee]

Feb 2, 2011 14:31:27 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Was out for a while and had NPR on the radio, and in the broadcast they were talking about negotiations...thinking political , both here in US and foreign, say what is happening in Near East...

It was brought out what a famous political said on the subject but won't mention who and his thoughts on the topic , just interested if posters her have ideas on ot..after runs it's course, thread , will put in this famous political thoughts on the topic were.

I don't normally pick on a post for spelling/grammar/typing errors because mine suck....but this one made my head hurt Dezi.

WTH are you talking about?

[fairlycrazy23]

I think the gist is that a famous person said something about negotiations, but before dezi posts this statement/quote he wants to hear what we think without getting 'contaminated' by this famous persons position.

Negotiations are nothing more than two or more individuals/groups where the sides offer to give in on certain aspects in exchange for the other side(s) doing the same on a particular subject thereby allowing the individuals or groups to come to an agreement on this particular subject.

[reasonfreedom]

For the Brotherhood or anti-administration I don't think negotiations are a good idea. They have already come so far and the current administration had already tried to negotiate in a way(Mubarak saying he would leave office after term is up). On top of that I think that it is clear that somebody has put the Mubarak supporters out there for violence. I believe that the anti-administration group was checked for weapons and such, yet there are now Machetes floating around. I think the army is sending mixed signals there, they are just going to wait until somebody wins and then will say we are on your side.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 2, 2011 15:05:41 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Feb 2, 2011 14:31:27 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Was out for a while and had NPR on the radio, and in the broadcast they were talking about negotiations...thinking political , both here in US and foreign, say what is happening in Near East...

It was brought out what a famous political said on the subject but won't mention who and his thoughts on the topic , just interested if posters her have ideas on ot..after runs it's course, thread , will put in this famous political thoughts on the topic were.

I don't normally pick on a post for spelling/grammar/typing errors because mine suck....but this one made my head hurt Dezi.

What are you talking about?

Hi Florida..we haven't chatted for a bit..isn't the weather fantastic..OK back to your post.

Did a check on my post for the spelling , all ok there but sorry to be confusing on purpose of thread but yes , the explanation by the next poster, Fairly.... is what i meant..

So much of what we discuss here needs negotiations to get to a consensus , and in listening to the NPR program where that was discussed got me thinking that many of us aren't sure as to what that really means and then one of the speakers on NPR brought up a simple explanation/meaning of the word in a practical sense, by a famouse political figure, thus my post , and yes after, if a interest by others, posters, in posting their thought , I will put in who and what he felt was the meaning of the word, the purpose of negotiations.

There is no right wrong here, though I believe the famous ones ideas are right on.

Hope all that makes sense to you.

Stay well.

[floridayankee]

Feb 2, 2011 15:11:39 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

I think the gist is that a famous person said something about negotiations, but before dezi posts this statement/quote he wants to hear what we think without getting 'contaminated' by this famous persons position.

Negotiations are nothing more than two or more individuals/groups where the sides offer to give in on certain aspects in exchange for the other side(s) doing the same on a particular subject thereby allowing the individuals or groups to come to an agreement on this particular subject.

Overlooking the obvious answer of what negotiations are (I assume dezi could look that up for himself), the gist of my question was what type of negotiations? contract, political, hostage, travel rights, drilling rights, oil production, pyramid access, embassy placement, complete surrender, etc...

It helps to at least know what we're negotiating before being able to make an educated comment on it.

ETA:

Did a check on my post for the spelling

I didn't either. I just always throw "spelling" in there because my typing skills are worse than my spelling skills....or lack thereof.

And yes, the weather is fantastic. Got my first sunburn of 2011 last weekend on a charity ride for the families of the two fallen St. Pete police officers.

[billisonboard]

Feb 2, 2011 15:25:17 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

... I think the army is ... just going to wait until somebody wins and then will say we are on your side.

Isn't this what the US military does every four years?

Seriously, a professional military is supposed to be a non-entity in political decisions. The military stepping in and taking over is the epitome of "banana republic".

[reasonfreedom]

Feb 2, 2011 15:30:33 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Feb 2, 2011 15:11:39 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

I think the gist is that a famous person said something about negotiations, but before dezi posts this statement/quote he wants to hear what we think without getting 'contaminated' by this famous persons position.

Negotiations are nothing more than two or more individuals/groups where the sides offer to give in on certain aspects in exchange for the other side(s) doing the same on a particular subject thereby allowing the individuals or groups to come to an agreement on this particular subject.

Overlooking the obvious answer of what negotiations are (I assume dezi could look that up for himself), the gist of my question was what type of negotiations? contract, political, hostage, travel rights, drilling rights, oil production, pyramid access, embassy placement, complete surrender, etc...

It helps to at least know what we're negotiating before being able to make an educated comment on it.

ETA:

Did a check on my post for the spelling

I didn't either. I just always throw "spelling" in there because my typing skills are worse than my spelling skills....or lack thereof.

And yes, the weather is fantastic. Got my first sunburn of 2011 last weekend on a charity ride for the families of the two fallen St. Pete police officers.

Mummies man, mummies it is all about the mummies.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 2, 2011 15:30:33 GMT -5 floridayankee said:

Feb 2, 2011 15:11:39 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

I think the gist is that a famous person said something about negotiations, but before dezi posts this statement/quote he wants to hear what we think without getting 'contaminated' by this famous persons position.

Negotiations are nothing more than two or more individuals/groups where the sides offer to give in on certain aspects in exchange for the other side(s) doing the same on a particular subject thereby allowing the individuals or groups to come to an agreement on this particular subject.

Overlooking the obvious answer of what negotiations are (I assume dezi could look that up for himself), the gist of my question was what type of negotiations? contract, political, hostage, travel rights, drilling rights, oil production, pyramid access, embassy placement, complete surrender, etc...

It helps to at least know what we're negotiating before being able to make an educated comment on it.

ETA:

Did a check on my post for the spelling

I didn't either. I just always throw "spelling" in there because my typing skills are worse than my spelling skills....or lack thereof.

And yes, the weather is fantastic. Got my first sunburn of 2011 last weekend on a charity ride for the families of the two fallen St. Pete police officers.

What ever one is negotiating.. there is a reason for them..the results by this political is the same..what are you truying to accomplish..whether it is two spouces..businesses or governments between each other or the political with each other.
Watch out for the sun burn...been using the pool here last few weeks..hope that doesn't p off our friends in the northern Tundras..

[deziloooooo]

Ok , see little interest so will finish it..

Reagan , who conducted negotiations as head of the motion picture folks with studios, distribution types entertainment agencies were negotiations were needed , when asked by a reporter if his prior negotiation experiences helped him when negotiating with Gorbachev and other such leaders said the only purpose of negotiations is to come to a agreement with the other side.

Come away with something both sides are comfortable with and agree on.

[zipity]

I thought you were going to quote an NPR piece that ran a few months ago which discussed why some viewed Obama as a poor negotiator. The quote I liked was "if you feed the donkey all your carrots at the beginning of the trip it has not incentive to carry you." I poke at Obama's tendency to give some things away before asking for anything.

[thyme4change]

WTH are you talking about?

LOL - I'm so glad you said that. I was very concerned about my reading comprehension.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 2, 2011 18:22:57 GMT -5 zipity said:

I thought you were going to quote an NPR piece that ran a few months ago which discussed why some viewed Obama as a poor negotiator. The quote I liked was "if you feed the donkey all your carrots at the beginning of the trip it has not incentive to carry you." I poke at Obama's tendency to give some things away before asking for anything.

I hadn't heard that..if true, and I can't say it isn't , I think it's something those in a new position, and to be a President the first time, is definitly something that one really can't be prepared for, the mistake that it is going to be all kumbaya and friendly back and forths is something that has to be learned, just not going to happen.
He is pickibng up the experience, i believe he is a smart guy and if he can be reelected he would be a even more efficient leader..

Yes I believe he has been efficient..some mistakes but I never thought he had the ability to walk on water when I voted for him...

[zipity]

The quote appeared in a story where they were discussing exactly that, how a new president tends to "do the right thing" expecting the other side to respond in kind. In particular they were discussing Obama's early statement about how he would be open to expanded off shore drilling without having gotten anything from the pubs first.