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Post by ed1066 on Feb 2, 2011 0:43:08 GMT -5
"Prepare for war with Israel". Obama has openly supported the Muslim Brotherhood in their quest to seize power in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood, like Obama's other ally, Hamas in the Palestinian Territory, supports war with Israel and genocide against the world's Jews. www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=206130
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 2, 2011 0:57:04 GMT -5
"Prepare for war with Israel". Obama has openly supported the Muslim Brotherhood in their quest to seize power in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood, like Obama's other ally, Hamas in the Palestinian Territory, supports war with Israel and genocide against the world's Jews. www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=206130So some guy from the Muslem Brotherhood wants the Egyptians to go to war with Israel , cut off their gas supplies amd close the canal..so where is the President involved in this idea? Ed I really think you miss the old thread but you just like to turn everything here into garabge too, for no reason, and the originators/founders here have been so nice to you too. {sigh} You said you got a BS at Podunk U correct Can you prove that? Possible a link?
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 2, 2011 0:58:35 GMT -5
Your story within your link. No where does it state "Obama backs Muslim Brotherhood: "Prepare for War"":
Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel' By YAAKOV LAPPIN 02/01/2011 02:00
A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist.
Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.”
Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.”
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 2, 2011 1:00:54 GMT -5
Your story within your link. No where does it state "Obama backs Muslim Brotherhood: "Prepare for War"": Muslim Brotherhood: ‘Prepare Egyptians for war with Israel' By YAAKOV LAPPIN 02/01/2011 02:00 A leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt told the Arabic-language Iranian news network Al-Alam on Monday that he would like to see the Egyptian people prepare for war against Israel, according to the Hebrew-language business newspaper Calcalist. Muhammad Ghannem reportedly told Al- Alam that the Suez Canal should be closed immediately, and that the flow of gas from Egypt to Israel should cease “in order to bring about the downfall of the Mubarak regime.” He added that “the people should be prepared for war against Israel,” saying the world should understand that “the Egyptian people are prepared for anything to get rid of this regime.” Ghannem praised Egyptian soldiers deployed by President Hosni Mubarak to Egyptian cities, saying they “would not kill their brothers.” He added that Washington was forced to abandon plans to help Mubarak stay in power after “seeing millions head for the streets.” I think that is his sense of humor Tenn... Just throw it up there and some one will come byy and see it and will think, "Wow..I didn't know that "
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 2, 2011 1:04:45 GMT -5
Have you two not heard the story that Obama pressured Mubarek to step down? Well, this is who will be taking his place...connect the dots for crying out loud! Do you need EVERYTHING spoon fed to you by Keith "in the closet" Olbermann and Anderson "Teabag" Cooper?
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 2, 2011 1:19:03 GMT -5
Easy there big fella ..have you been introduced to Krickett?
Kind of jumping the gun here aren't you..
the conservative movement in Egypt is suggested to number no more then about 25/30 % tops..while a bit more organized as a movement then the other parties , been active a bit longer.
There is a educated non zealot majority in Egypt who don't think along those lines. They are observant as most Muslims are thus the daily prayers but are also secular in their outlook and modernized, these are Egyptians.
Unlike Iran there is no Ayatollah and while it's been a while since Sadat, at that time, the Egyptians did not want any more wars with Israel, fathers were tired of their children practicing the crossing of the canal, tired of losing their sons in the futile wars, why do you think they want to go to war now?
I guarantee the Army does not want to do that.
The average Egyptian wants Mubarak to leave, a civilian government in place , a reduction in the corruption, will never be totally gone, better opportunities for their citizens , 40 % are living on 2/3 $ per day., better education wit opportunities for employment after schools...and the Army does not want a fundamentalist government .
Anyway..what could Obama do to stop this take over anyway if it did go that way...send in the marines to support Mubarak?
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 2, 2011 7:20:03 GMT -5
" "The New York Times" reports that US President Barack Obama believes that the Muslim Brotherhood should participate in the political process in Egypt. White House advisors made clear that they did not rule out engagement with the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak suppressed, as part of an orderly process. " www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000620120&fid=1725" Reporting from Washington — The Obama administration said for the first time that it supports a role for groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned Islamist organization, in a reformed Egyptian government. The organization must reject violence and recognize democratic goals if the U.S. is to be comfortable with it taking part in the government, the White House said. But by even setting conditions for the involvement of such nonsecular groups, the administration took a surprise step in the midst of the crisis that has enveloped Egypt for the last week. " articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/31/world/la-fg-us-egypt-20110201
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 2, 2011 7:22:39 GMT -5
...and, fwiw, this is the article I found the most interesting so far: You seem to wonder after all of this where El Baradei and the Egyptian opposition are. CNN's anointed leader of the Egyptian Revolution must be important to the future of Egypt. Hardly! Outside of Western media hype, El Baradei is nothing. A man that has spent less than 30 days in the past year in Egypt and hardly any time in the past 20 years is a nobody. It is entirely insulting to Egyptians to suggest otherwise. The opposition you wonder? Outside of the Muslim Brotherhood we are discussing groups that can each claim less than 5,000 actual members. With no organization, no ideas, and no leaders they are entirely irrelevant to the discussion. It is the apolitical young generation that has suddenly been transformed that is the real question here. Where Egypt will go from here is an enigma. In a sense everything will be the same. The army that has ruled Egypt since 1952 will continue to rule it and the country will still suffer from a huge vacuum of ideas and real political alternatives. On the other hand, it will never be the same again. Once empowered, the Egyptians will not accept the status quo for long. On the long run the Egyptian question remains the same. Nothing has changed in that regard. It is quite remarkable for people to be talking about the prospect for a democratic transition at this moment. A population that was convinced just two months ago that sharks in the Red Sea were implanted by the Israeli Intelligence Services is hardly at a stage of creating a liberal democracy in Egypt. But the status quo cannot be maintained. A lack of any meaningful political discourse in the country has to be addressed. Until someone actually starts addressing the real issues and stop the chatterbox of clichés on democracy, things will not get better at all. It will only get worse. www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/the_story_of_the_egyptian_revo.html
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Post by workpublic on Feb 2, 2011 7:51:51 GMT -5
I think ya need to know how to spell democracy before it can be instilled in place like that.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 2, 2011 10:29:36 GMT -5
It is quite remarkable for people to be talking about the prospect for a democratic transition at this moment.
That's been my take as well. Clearly a large number of the populace are unhappy with Mubarak. However, if/when he goes, it's very unclear who (or what) would step in and fill the vacuum. The middle east does not have a strong history of establishing thriving democracies (as much as we might like to see that happen).
Since Egypt controls the Suez Canal, our own interests are very much tied to what happens there.
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Post by ungenteel on Feb 2, 2011 21:16:14 GMT -5
<<Obama backs Muslim Brotherhood: "Prepare for War">> Here is more feedback from Israel .. looks like Netanyahu isn't that threatened by the events in Egypt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday that if democracy prevails in Egypt then it will not pose a threat to peace with Israel. "All those who value freedom are inspired by the calls for democratic reforms in Egypt," Netanyahu said during a speech to the Knesset. "An Egypt that will adopt these reforms will be a source of hope for the world. As much as the foundations for democracy are stronger, the foundations for peace are stronger." www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-a-democratic-egypt-won-t-threaten-peace-with-israel-1.340899
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