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Post by midjd on Aug 16, 2012 14:08:14 GMT -5
I can't answer your question, Pink, but I'll bet that little girl is beautiful! I've always been fascinated with the dark skin/light eyes combo.
One of my college classmates was Indian and had the lightest green eyes I've ever seen. He was very attractive anyway, and it was hard not to stare into those eyes!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 14:32:29 GMT -5
I wish I'd asked while the genetics discussion was going on. I'm always late!
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 16, 2012 14:35:50 GMT -5
Well - better late than pregnant.
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2012 16:54:35 GMT -5
I find other beers really heavy, and they always make me so bloated and feel disgusting. But when it is hot, a nice light beer - really cools down the pallet. My friends make fun of it - so I only do it in secret. When people come over, or we go out, I just make margaritas. I suggest Sam Adams summer brew.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 16, 2012 16:56:44 GMT -5
I don't care for Sam Adams. That is the only beer my Dad keeps in his house - he buys all the different flavors, and I just don't like it. It is too "hoppy" for me. And makes me feel bloated.
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2012 16:57:42 GMT -5
I don't care for Sam Adams. That is the only beer my Dad keeps in his house - he buys all the different flavors, and I just don't like it. It is too "hoppy" for me. And makes me feel bloated. Can you get Saranac beers in AZ?
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 16, 2012 17:00:54 GMT -5
?? Never heard of it.
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2012 17:09:11 GMT -5
It's a brewery in Utica, ny that does a variety of specialized beers. They have some very light summer beers that re very tasty. Www.saranac.com.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Aug 16, 2012 17:18:35 GMT -5
She doesn't need to get stuff from New York, there are literally dozens of breweries right there in Phoenix. Put down the Bud Light and check out your local brew scene. There's got to be something that you'd like... other than watered down Bud I mean.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 16, 2012 17:19:52 GMT -5
I do like Four Peaks. I even liked the stuff we had at Sun Up - but it was so heavy. Even the "lightest" beer just gave me gas.
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Post by shanendoah on Aug 16, 2012 17:28:43 GMT -5
Pink: If any members of the mother's family were slaves, then yes, there's a gene back there somewhere.
With the caveat that the last time I learned anything about genetics, it was 1991, here is what my biology teacher taught us about simple genetics vs hair/eye color genetics. With something like blood type, you get one gene from each parent. I am O. O is recessive. That means I had to get an O from each of my parents. Now, it's possible for one of them to by A and one to be B, but neither of them could AB. If I were to have a kid, if DH is type B, my child could be type B or could be type O. If my child were type B, it would still have the possibility of having a kid with type O blood, becase we would know my child's blood type was BO- could give either one to a kid. Even if one of my grandparents were AB, I could not have a child with AB blood type, because you only get one blood type gene from each parent. Extended ancestry doesn't matter. That's simple, two gene genetics.
Neither hair nor eye color work on simple two gene genetics. You do not simply get one "brown hair" gene from your father and one "blonde hair" gene from your mother. Hair and eye color are tied together in strands of DNA. You actually get every single gene for hair color that has existed in both familes. How they combine together is what determines what your hair/eye color is going to be. I don't know that scientists have figured out exactly how they combine. But unlike blood type, which doesn't carry any history beyond the parents, hair and eye color carry full genetic history, making it very complicated.
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Post by chiver78 on Aug 16, 2012 17:36:37 GMT -5
I remember hearing, around the time that Charles and Diana divorced, that the Queen had been planning on abdicating, but the divorce made it so that Charles and no one in his generation could be King, so she decided to hand around until she died because she didn't want William to have to become King too young. Then Diana was killed, and Charles was no longer divorced, but a Widower, making him once again eligible to be King. But by that time, the Queen was sticking it out, at least for her Diamond Jubliee and the Olympics. Given Prince Philip's health, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see the Queen abdicate in the next few years, so that she and her husband can "retire" (as much as that's possible) and leave the work of being the monarch to Charles. Also, I'm pretty certain that the day after Charles and Camilla wed, Parliament passed a law saying she would never be Queen. (And this was not a surprise. Everyone knew it was going to happen. Parliament would have passed it sooner, but they couldn't until she and Charles were actually married.) I have a co-worker whose family is English, and she and I talk about these things on occassion. sorry if anyone else has already picked up on this, I'm catching up on this thread now. Diana died in 1997 - the Olympics weren't even on the radar yet, and the Golden (50th) Jubilee hadn't even happened yet. your timeline is more than a little off there.....
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 16, 2012 18:05:12 GMT -5
...:::"She's a very pretty little girl and her eyes are almost startling because they're such a bright blue.":::...
There is someone here who wears these unrealistically vivid blue contact lenses. We call her the eye of Sauron (and then make that burning noise).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 18:45:44 GMT -5
I think hair and eye color is a little more complicated even than the classic two-gene recessive vs. dominant model. oh, and to weigh in: my mother has very brown eyes; father has very blue eyes. Both brothers are blue-eyed; I'm hazel. So much for that dominant brown thing. Does anyone have a story of two (naturally) blond parents and a brown-haired child? With no hanky-panky going on? My HS biology teacher, with a master's in genetics, liked to tell a story about their instructor telling them to try to come up with a way for a black man to have blue eyes and blond hair. They tried like crazy, never did come up with a rationale...but sure enough, the instructor brought in a blue-eyed blond black man. Hm. Now I retell the story I think it's a little racist. The storytelling teacher was black, if that helps...and the blond hair was apparently curly There's something I've been curious about, maybe someone can explain it to me even though I'm already confused by the genetics talk. lol There's a black lady I know very well that has a little girl with very bright blue eyes. The Dad is Black and Mexican and has light blue eyes. I don't know who else in his family has blue eyes. If there's any other race (or whatever the proper term in this case is) in the Mom's family on either side, it's more than 3 generations back. I know it's rare for black people to have blue eyes and from what I remember of biology (admittedly very little), blue eyes are caused by a recessive gene. She's a very pretty little girl and her eyes are almost startling because they're such a bright blue. I'm curious about how the genes worked that she ended up with those eyes. Using a simple dominate recessive model, it isn't that hard to imagine a recessive trait being carried down generations without ever being the dominant trait. In an ethnicity where most of the people carry 2 brown eye genes, finding another person with the blue eye gene would be unlikely. You could have generations and generation of people with brown eyes, who were also carrying the recessive blue eye gene. And then bam, someone meets a blue eyed person or a person with the same recessive gene and there is a blue eyed baby. Now the reverse shouldn't be true. You shouldn't have 2 blue eyed people with a brown eyed baby.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 16, 2012 18:53:29 GMT -5
Because it is complicated but I promise you if you had one parent with two brown hair genes you will get children with brown hair every timeNo you don't. My parents both have very dark brown hair and my brother is a blond. Drama the color you see out of your parents is only 1 of their hair color genes. Everyone also has a second gene that you can't see. Some are understood like a person with red hair since it's recessive has to have the second gene be red. But with brown hair the second gene, that you can't see, can be either blond or red. So in your case your brown haired parents both had a silent bond gene or one had a silent blond gene and one had a silent red gene. When they have a brown haired child it simply means one of them gave a brown gene to the child. When they had a blond child it simply means they both threw the silent haircolor gene to the kid. the dominant one is the one that is seen, which gets a little more complicated, but it doens't mean that because someone has brown hair for example that their second gene is brown no matter how dark it is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 21:06:11 GMT -5
...:::"She's a very pretty little girl and her eyes are almost startling because they're such a bright blue.":::... There is someone here who wears these unrealistically vivid blue contact lenses. We call her the eye of Sauron (and then make that burning noise). She's a toddler now, I'm sure when she gets older people will swear she has contact lenses. Thanks for taking the time to explain shanendoah and pooks.
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Post by Peace77 on Aug 17, 2012 8:06:22 GMT -5
I recently saw a fascinating picture. A biracial mother and a biracial father has twin girls. The parents both looked like caramel colored African-Americans. One of the girls looked just like the parents. The other girl looked Caucasian with curly hair.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 8:09:42 GMT -5
...:::"She's a very pretty little girl and her eyes are almost startling because they're such a bright blue.":::... There is someone here who wears these unrealistically vivid blue contact lenses. We call her the eye of Sauron (and then make that burning noise). Shouldn't you use some kind of Dune reference?
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