steff
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Post by steff on Jan 30, 2011 21:54:53 GMT -5
A rape victim should not be denied an abortion just because, for whatever reason, she doesn't report it to the police. Therapy can be had even if it's not reported. But to require a police report from a rape victim before allowing her the right to make the (LEGAL) choice to abort is wrong IMO.
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Post by marjar on Jan 30, 2011 21:56:36 GMT -5
We may have misunderstood one another, chivers. I am saying that women will just come in saying they were raped and get a tax payer funded abortion-- whether or not they were raped. PP will support that, and not report-- they have been busted for that recently. They just want to get their abortions done, no matter how they do it. Huge loophole to fund tax payer funded abortions with no oversight. Is it possible they would have to show evidence - such as a police report or a report from a physician, acknowledging they were raped?
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Post by formerexpat on Jan 30, 2011 21:58:03 GMT -5
Is that what this bill is trying to accomplish or simply to get federal funds for an abortion, you'd have to prove it was rape?[/size]
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 30, 2011 21:58:37 GMT -5
"That is aside from the fact that planned parenthood covers up legal rape by twisting the facts around"
krickett Do you have any actual proof that PP "covers up legal rape by twisting the facts"? And, what on earth is "legal rape"?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jan 30, 2011 22:00:06 GMT -5
"That is aside from the fact that planned parenthood covers up legal rape by twisting the facts around"
krickett Do you have any actual proof that PP "covers up legal rape by twisting the facts"? And, what on earth is "legal rape"?
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Post by swamp on Jan 30, 2011 22:02:27 GMT -5
I don't think PP does any twisting of facts. They provide health care services and they can only release limited information under HIPAA. If a 13 year old shows up wanting an abortion, you can't make her talk to the police.
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 30, 2011 22:04:56 GMT -5
I would agree. They have been very upfront about their support of reducing minority populations through selective abortions. It is part of the eugenics philosophy on which they were founded, and which Margaret Sanger, the founder of PP, was open and vocal about...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 22:07:57 GMT -5
You seem to get my point, Dez. I am not going against women. No way I am doing that. My personal history would not allow me to do that. I'm glad you see what I am asking.
chivers-- tax payer funded abortions based on rape with nothing saying one was raped, or at least claiming to be raped-- no go for me. IMO-- if some woman is distraught enough to have police contact and say they were raped-- IMO, no conviction is needed. I would consider a police report to be sufficient evidence to support a claim for tax payer abortion, if that is legal. Yes-- she could be lying, but I am thinking she is not, because I am pro woman, believe it or not. My position on the abortion would remain the same, nevertheless-- that the woman was in full knowledge of exactly what she is doing when aborting. That is my position on abortion, I do not care how the pregnancy happened, and that is final, IMO only.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 30, 2011 22:12:38 GMT -5
I would agree. They have been very upfront about their support of reducing minority populations through selective abortions. It is part of the eugenics philosophy on which they were founded, and which Margaret Sanger, the founder of PP, was open and vocal about...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 22:13:35 GMT -5
SO many stories on this-- I picked the first one that popped up on bing. Planned Parenthood hides child sex abuse – 10 times! Largest abortion provider nailed again in undercover film footage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 23, 2010 8:49 pm Eastern Read more: Planned Parenthood hides child sex abuse – 10 times! www.wnd.com/?pageId=125970#ixzz1CZxJnQEh
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Post by swamp on Jan 30, 2011 22:13:42 GMT -5
I would agree. They have been very upfront about their support of reducing minority populations through selective abortions. It is part of the eugenics philosophy on which they were founded, and which Margaret Sanger, the founder of PP, was open and vocal about... You don't give up, do you? Did you know that Mr. Hershey was a racist and the original aims of the Hershey Foundation was to educate only Christian White male children? He thought black children shouldn't be educated. Obviously, the goals of the foundation can change over time. Last time I checked, Margaret Sanger is dead. Have you actually been in a PP Ed? I have. I used it to get birth control when I was a young and poor student. I didn't see anything about eradicating the blacks, I only saw a clinic that provided health care services and birth control to poor and uninsured people. The clinic I went to did not do abortions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 22:14:22 GMT -5
I will give you guys the benefit of not being news freaks like me. Maybe you did not know this.....
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Post by swamp on Jan 30, 2011 22:17:00 GMT -5
I will give you guys the benefit of not being news freaks like me. Maybe you did not know this..... "News" is only as good as it's source.............
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Post by dmsm on Jan 30, 2011 22:18:57 GMT -5
All women should have access to a safe procedure. If she is raped and can not afford it she should have help in getting one. We have no business in that decision at all.
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 30, 2011 22:20:23 GMT -5
You sure about that? In 2008, a Planned Parethood in Idaho got busted, on tape, for encouraging a caller who wanted to donate money to be used specifically for aborting black babies. Now I'm sure, being the good liberal you are, you never heard this story, but it's the truth, and you can listen to the tape on the link I provided. www.wnd.com/?pageId=57526
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Post by swamp on Jan 30, 2011 22:22:49 GMT -5
So one person who works at a PP is a racist jerk makes the whole organization racist? Um, OK.
And I'm actual not really a liberal, I'm more of a fiscally conservative liberterian. Learn something about me before you attempt to insult me, mmmkay?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 22:24:05 GMT -5
Hey, you guys should look up Adam Parfrey and Phillip R. Reilly, just for kicks... you would be looking for Eugenics, the Orphaned Science, and The Surgical Solution: A History of Involuntary Sterilization in the United States.
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Post by lakhota on Jan 30, 2011 22:41:34 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus, that's World NUT Daily. That's like watching a video by Breitbart's little pimp, James O'Keefe.
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 31, 2011 16:41:49 GMT -5
Pretty rich coming from the voice of Herr Soros...
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Post by lakhota on Feb 4, 2011 18:21:11 GMT -5
Please see below...
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 4, 2011 18:22:28 GMT -5
Soros is a Nazi
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Post by lakhota on Feb 4, 2011 18:25:58 GMT -5
Please see below...
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 4, 2011 18:28:08 GMT -5
I think you double posted
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 4, 2011 18:28:32 GMT -5
Oh looks like you didn't, never mind...
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Post by lakhota on Feb 4, 2011 18:30:00 GMT -5
New GOP Bill Would Allow Hospitals To Let Women Die Instead Of Having An AbortionThe controversy over "forcible rape" may be over, but now there's a new Republican-sponsored abortion bill in the House that pro-choice folks say may be worse: this time around, the new language would allow hospitals to let a pregnant woman die rather than perform the abortion that would save her life. Much More: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/....ion.php?ref=fpb
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 4, 2011 18:31:00 GMT -5
What was originally posted in reply #80? It seems to have been posted at 17:21 (central time) and modifed at 17:25 (central time).
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Post by steff on Feb 4, 2011 18:32:21 GMT -5
The GOP must really hate women.....can't get one thru, got another one handy that's even worse..... if they can't stop the woman from having an abortion, now they'll try and make sure she dies .....
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 4, 2011 18:32:30 GMT -5
Knock it off Lakhota and Ed. Address the thread and not each other.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 4, 2011 18:33:39 GMT -5
I disagree with the content of this thread
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Post by lakhota on Feb 4, 2011 18:35:53 GMT -5
Knock it off Lakhota and Ed. Address the thread and not each other. Tenn, what the hell are you talking about? I have NOT addressed ed in this thread. I simply reported him for his stupid comment about Soros being a nazi, and then reposted my article - twice.
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