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Post by mmhmm on Jul 23, 2012 8:40:23 GMT -5
INDIANAPOLIS - The NCAA has slammed Penn State with an unprecedented series of penalties, including a $60 million fine and the loss of all coach Joe Paterno's victories from 1998-2011, in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
Other sanctions include a four-year ban on bowl games, and the loss of 20 scholarships per year over four years.
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Post by moxie on Jul 23, 2012 8:59:38 GMT -5
Kudos to the NCAA...WELL DONE!!
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Post by moxie on Jul 23, 2012 9:00:56 GMT -5
Let this be a lesson to ALL sports teams...this type of abuse WILL NOT be tolerated! ZERO TOLERANCE!!
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 23, 2012 9:02:45 GMT -5
what impressed me about this ruling were these two items: All players can transfer without penalty Any scholarship player that wants to stay at PSU but not play football any more can stay on scholarshipcurrent students are not at all penalized, and the ones that choose to value the education they are pursuing can continue to do so.
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Post by moxie on Jul 23, 2012 9:04:11 GMT -5
"All players can transfer without penalty Any scholarship player that wants to stay at PSU but not play football any more can stay on scholarship"
Definitely fair.
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Post by mtman on Jul 23, 2012 9:13:37 GMT -5
Didn't go far enough......Entire football program should have been banned for four years.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 23, 2012 9:15:42 GMT -5
I've got to agree. I didn't know what to expect, but what's been done seems fair, and it appears to take the students into consideration which is more than they'd received from the university administration over the years. I just hope a lesson is learned, and all colleges and universities take a good look at their own practices. I'm not fool enough to believe this is the only situation of its kind; although, it may be the most egregious. It's time to wake up, and this may be the impetus that's needed to ensure this never happens again.
Kudos to the NCAA for doing their job and doing it well.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 23, 2012 19:33:03 GMT -5
SMU got the kiss of death from the NCAA for Boosters paying players to play.
Considering the claims against Pen State I expected the same for them.
The $60M won't mean diddly squat to Pen State. Their alumni will take care of that. As for the rest of the penalty, it seems like a slap on the wrist in comparison to SMU "crimes"
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jul 23, 2012 20:00:05 GMT -5
The $60M won't mean diddly squat to Pen State. Their alumni will take care of that. As for the rest of the penalty, it seems like a slap on the wrist in comparison to SMU "crimes" Penn State got a life sentence as opposed to the death penalty. The loss of scholarships and the potential loss of current players and commits and future recruits is going to take longer to recover from than a one-year death penalty. It's a just punishment.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 23, 2012 20:16:28 GMT -5
I agree.
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 17:51:04 GMT -5
Didn't go far enough......Entire football program should have been banned for four years. I thought they did. espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8194508/ncaa-loses-handle-turning-penn-state-losing-programBecause here's the thing: You can't tell us the problem is with the idolatry that comes from winning and then make decisions that are based solely on the importance of wins and losses. What the NCAA did was tell Penn State it was going to lose, and lose for a good long while, and suffer while doing it, as a punishment for allowing winning to become so important it overshadowed basic human dignity
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 17:59:06 GMT -5
another link ... www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2012-07-23/ncaa-penn-state-punishment-sanctions/56427630/1Emmert banned Penn State from bowl games for four years, imposed massive scholarship reductions (a total of 40 initial scholarships lost over four years) and fined the school $60 million.
Emmert also vacated all of Penn State's victories from 1998 through 2011, meaning former coach Joe Paterno loses 111 wins from what had been a total of 409 victories, the most all time in major college football.
The NCAA, which placed Penn State on five years' probation, is reserving the right to investigate and punish individuals implicated in child sex-abuse case until after criminal proceedings
In circumventing the traditional investigation process, Emmert relied on the conclusions of the nearly 300-page report by former FBI director Louis Freeh. Emmert said the report, which drew upon more than 3 million documents, was more comprehensive than any investigation the NCAA ever could have conducted
"The NCAA ruling holds the university accountable for the failure of those in power to protect children and insist that all areas of the university community are held to the same high standards of honesty and integrity," Penn State President Rodney Erickson said in a statement.
Regarding the $60 million fine, Erickson said Penn State will pay $12 million a year for the next five years into a special endowment created to fund programs for the detection, prevention and treatment of child abuse.
Because Penn State will be ineligible for bowl games — or the Big Ten title game — for the next four years, it will not be eligible to receive its share of the conference's bowl revenues. Estimated to be $13 million, the money will be donated to establish charitable organizations in the Big Ten communities dedicated to the protection of children.
The NCAA will also permit current or incoming Penn State football players to transfer without sitting out a season, which is likely to further impede the on-field rebuilding process for first-year coach Bill O'Brien.
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 18:06:09 GMT -5
When you take away the scholarships, ban them from bowl games and the big ten title game, tell their players they can leave without penalty, and ban them from any share of the conferences revenue, you have pretty much shut down the football program for four years.
But wait, we aren't done yet . . . they put them on a five year probation . . . and are reserving the right to investigate and punish the individuals implicated until after the criminal proceedings.
That means, they aren't done yet. . . . they are waiting to impose more punishments.
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 18:07:48 GMT -5
All I have to say is GREAT FOR THE NCAA
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 24, 2012 18:08:13 GMT -5
They will still be able to get players. They won't be as high of quality players - but I guarantee they will field a team. The NCAA could have literally banned them from playing games / cancelled their schedule.
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