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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 19:04:29 GMT -5
Do any posters do this? The idea is that you sleep with custom-made hard lenses for at least four hours a night and after a week or so, you have (near) perfect vision during the day. I had never heard of this till today. I am near-sighted, far-sighted and I have astigmatism, so I am not a good candidate for laser. My (new) ophthalmologist took some measurements, said I'd be a good candidate for this, so I'm just starting to look into it. I wore lenses for 20 years, so although I stopped about 10 years ago (I became allergic to the solution and stopped wearing them) the idea of hard lenses doesn't scare me too much. I have since found a solution I am not allergic to, so I do wear contacts occasionally. Any thoughts or experiences with this? ETA If it turns out after further exams that I am NOT a good candidate, or if I am not satisfied with the results, I would not have to pay for those special lenses (although I would have to pay for the exams). But for now, I'm looking for info / advice on the concept rather than on finances. Thanks! Please remember it's late here so I may only get back to this thread tomorrow.
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Post by comom1 on Jul 10, 2012 19:09:45 GMT -5
I used to sleep in my hard lenses. It did help, but it really irritated my eyes. I didn't end up with perfect vision, so I still have to wear glasses. Unfortunately, I can't wear contacts anymore. I'm not sure it was worth the trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 19:13:31 GMT -5
Thanks Comom. These are special hard lenses, supposedly not like the old kind. I scratched my eyes REALLY badly with my hard lenses 30 years ago, so initially, I was reticent. Like I said, I JUST started looking into this. My appt was this afternoon.
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Post by moxie on Jul 10, 2012 19:13:32 GMT -5
I need new lenses...in just a year both my distance and reading have declined.
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Post by moxie on Jul 10, 2012 19:13:59 GMT -5
I wear the daily lenses/glasses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2012 19:15:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the info! I am hoping to find somebody who has done this though. From what I have read, it is mostly used by younger people who are too young for laser (here they won't do laser before 25 or so) or middle-aged folks like me who are both near- and far-sighted. ETA: I changed the title of the thread to use the most popular US terms.
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Post by tloonya on Jul 10, 2012 20:09:31 GMT -5
I wear the daily lenses/glasses. Shouldn't you had said My name is moxie and I wear the daily lenses/glasses??? And we say Hi moxie!
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Post by moxie on Jul 10, 2012 20:12:24 GMT -5
lol ;D
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Post by midjd on Jul 10, 2012 21:00:24 GMT -5
I've never heard of that before so I'm sorry I can't be of any help, but I'm very interested in any responses. I've worn glasses (now contacts) since I was 5yo and am horribly nearsighted at this point - I think my Rx is a -9 in both eyes. I've been mulling over laser but it worries me... I think I'd at least have to do one eye at a time. Going blind is one of my big worries. I don't even know what I'd do if I woke up in the morning and could see without reaching for glasses! I've never known what that's like
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 10, 2012 21:06:13 GMT -5
The method is known as orthokeratology. I don't know anyone who has done it, however.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 10, 2012 21:32:10 GMT -5
I had prk. I was near sighted and have astigmatism in one eye. I ended up with 20/20 in one eye and 20/15 in the other. Love it and well worth the 4k.
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Post by ginpin on Jul 10, 2012 22:15:37 GMT -5
The eye doctor recommended this for my son, but I don't have the extra cash at this time. I guess they use gas-perm lenses, which are the ones that I wear daily. They are pretty miserable to wear daily, but might not be too bad for night time.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 11, 2012 8:01:42 GMT -5
I went around and did some digging about this. Like with LASIK, it seems like there are corrections that are more doable than others. My prescription is a -10.5 for both eyes, out of the easily correctable range. Fortunately, I tolerate gas permeable lenses well and have worn them since they came onto the market. I started out in normal hard lenses when I was 14, to try to stop the progression of my myopia.
However, at my last visit, my optometrist mentioned that it was too bad that I had no signs of cataracts. She said now that they can replace the clouded diseased lens with one that corrects eyesight. Not only that, it could be done under insurance if I had cataracts. I never went far enough to find out how much this would cost me now, but it is definitely something that is not off the table should I not be either correctable with my gas permeable lenses or tolerate them any more.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 11, 2012 8:11:13 GMT -5
That's my prescription mich. I wear daily disposables now and I love them. With my allergies getting worse I was getting so much junk on the ones you wear for a few weeks and throw out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 8:13:36 GMT -5
maybe in 10-15 years. I have really bad eyes and would love to do something permanent to fix them but I just don't have the money right now.
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Post by taz157 on Jul 11, 2012 8:26:51 GMT -5
I've heard of this too, and would definitely be interested in it. I've heard that I can't do LASIK due to the size of my pupils. My vision is bad enough that I need to wear contacts or glasses most of the time (-2.5 in each eye), but definitely not as bad as others on this board. I did look into it briefly a little while ago, but it's been a while and was too expensive for me at the time. I do need to make an eye appt for a new contact lens prescription, so I need to remember to ask the doctor about it.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 11, 2012 9:22:37 GMT -5
I've never heard of that before so I'm sorry I can't be of any help, but I'm very interested in any responses. I've worn glasses (now contacts) since I was 5yo and am horribly nearsighted at this point - I think my Rx is a -9 in both eyes. I've been mulling over laser but it worries me... I think I'd at least have to do one eye at a time. Going blind is one of my big worries. I don't even know what I'd do if I woke up in the morning and could see without reaching for glasses! I've never known what that's like I had the lasik done. Both eyes at once. It truly was a miracle for me. (Prior to the lasik my vision was 5:400; now it's 20:20 in one eye and 20:30 in the other. I do have to wear reading glasses for computer and close up work, but that's fine. I can wake up and see the clock across the room, I can drive, we can go camping and not have to deal with lenses. It's been about 7 years now and the procedure is improving all the time, so I'd say "Go for it!" Sorry, debthaven, I know nothing about the process you're describing and don't want to hijack the thread; just wanted to encourage Mid.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 11, 2012 9:57:56 GMT -5
I've never heard of that before so I'm sorry I can't be of any help, but I'm very interested in any responses. I've worn glasses (now contacts) since I was 5yo and am horribly nearsighted at this point - I think my Rx is a -9 in both eyes. I've been mulling over laser but it worries me... I think I'd at least have to do one eye at a time. Going blind is one of my big worries. I don't even know what I'd do if I woke up in the morning and could see without reaching for glasses! I've never known what that's like I had the lasik done. Both eyes at once. It truly was a miracle for me. (Prior to the lasik my vision was 5:400; now it's 20:20 in one eye and 20:30 in the other. I do have to wear reading glasses for computer and close up work, but that's fine. I can wake up and see the clock across the room, I can drive, we can go camping and not have to deal with lenses. It's been about 7 years now and the procedure is improving all the time, so I'd say "Go for it!" Sorry, debthaven, I know nothing about the process you're describing and don't want to hijack the thread; just wanted to encourage Mid. I'm not sure what your 5:400 vision translates to, but there is a cut off where LASIK is too great a risk. There isn't a credible optometrist who would treat me via this manner as the risk of failure is too great. The cut off where the risk of an unsuccessful treatment increases is about -8.0. For my prescription, the risk of successful treatment drops to about 60%, from the 95+% that most people have. I don't consider a 40% failure rate insignificant and am not willing to risk my remaining eyesight for those kinds of odds. So saying get LASIK, it's a slam dunk isn't quite accurate for many of us.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 11, 2012 10:11:00 GMT -5
I had a feeling my eyes might be too bad for Lasik. Guess I know for sure now. 40% failure rate is a big gamble and I don't want to completely lose my eyesight.
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Post by midjd on Jul 11, 2012 10:18:51 GMT -5
So what happens if the Lasik is unsuccessful? Do you go blind, or is it just that your vision isn't any better?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 10:20:28 GMT -5
well damn, I just had my prescription adjusted to -9. Guess I'll have to settle for just getting the boob job.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 11, 2012 10:26:05 GMT -5
So what happens if the Lasik is unsuccessful? Do you go blind, or is it just that your vision isn't any better? Your vision can be worse than it is now. The one person I know who got it when it was ill-advised now can no longer drive at night and her eyes are terminally dry such that he can no longer wear contacts. I know anecdote does not equal data, but the person tat I know that had it done was borderline and nw says she wishes she had not pushed the issue. She went to 4 doctors until he found one to o it. If I get something done, I'd more likely look at the lens replacement.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jul 11, 2012 10:28:23 GMT -5
I'm not a candidate for Lisik as my vision is about -17.5, however I do have cataracts and my opthomologist suggested that when I finish my macular degeneration treatments I get cataract surgery done. I've also been told about them putting in a lens to correct my vision and the doc said that I should be close to 20/20 in my good eye.
I've been wearing glasses or contacts since I was 6, so I don't know what it's like to wake up and see everything clearly. I don't tolerate the soft lenses and had gas perm ones until I started the eye treatments. I have to wear glasses until they are finished. If I can get the cataract surgery and see clearly, I'd be in heaven!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Jul 11, 2012 10:37:49 GMT -5
So what happens if the Lasik is unsuccessful? Do you go blind, or is it just that your vision isn't any better? I had a friend who had it happen. (She had it done in the very early days). She won a substantial settlement and had to wear glasses the rest of her life. I was told that "5:400" meant that I saw at 5 feet what a person with perfect vision could see at 400 feet. I was very very nearsighted. I'm told that lasik is most successful treating near sightedness. I'd encourage anyone to make the decision based on what their own opthamologist says and not what someone posts on a message board. (Note that theFeeb's 40% referredto her own situation; overall the average rate of success is 95%.)
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Post by Angel! on Jul 11, 2012 10:45:11 GMT -5
From what I have read, it is mostly used by younger people who are too young for laser (here they won't do laser before 25 or so) or middle-aged folks like me who are both near- and far-sighted. Interesting. I had mine done at 21 (11 yrs ago) & their only concern was that my prescription hadn't changed in a few years. My mom had hers done at the same time & because she is both near & far-sighted, they corrected one eye for near & one eye for far. Seems really bizarre to me, but apparently your brain completely compensates & she said you don't even notice. So I find it interesting that apparently where you are, they wouldn't have treated either of us. MidJD - It was the best thing I ever did. So totally worth it. The success rates generally are reporting the number of people for whom the surgery allows 20/20 vision. So of course, the worse the initial vision, the lower the success rate. Just make sure you go to a really good doc. Most of the horror stories you hear are regarding those places that advertise the stuff like $299/eye specials & make profit by doing the procedure as quickly & on as many people as possible. ETA - it was really weird for me to go to bed while still being able to see. I kept wanting to take out my contacts. It was nice to be able to clearly read the clock at any time during the night though.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 11, 2012 10:48:07 GMT -5
This is one of those things where you can manipulate the statistics sort of. Yes, the overall success rate is 95% but they exclude a large group as not good candidates. Throwing them out will help your stats. It works fabulously for some people no doubt. For some of us with bad eyes it sounds like a risky proposition.
MJ I know you don't like hassling with contacts but my decline in vision has pretty much stopped since I went to contacts. I can also see much better with contacts than glasses with the same prescription.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 11, 2012 10:48:19 GMT -5
The success rate is dependent upon the patient selection. If you choose your patient population carefully, you get optimal results and high success rates.
The likelihood of success starts dropping when vision is around -8.0 (but it still isnt too bad) but when it gets to a -10, which is where my prescription is, the risk jumps a lot.
IOW, just because you are nearsighted, it does not mean that you are a optimal candidate.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 11, 2012 10:50:35 GMT -5
If I looked into it, I'd probably go to this place in DC. They did Lasik on Tiger Woods. I'm figuring a guy who makes his living golfing is going to the best.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 11, 2012 10:58:27 GMT -5
If I looked into it, I'd probably go to this place in DC. They did Lasik on Tiger Woods. I'm figuring a guy who makes his living golfing is going to the best. I'd be curious as to how they'd deal with patients who have borderline eligibility. Would it be a flat out 'no' or would they do it, warning you of the increased risk for your factors?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 11, 2012 11:06:21 GMT -5
I'll have to get the name of it from my brother and see what info their website has. I know he wants to get it done there. He has to wear prescription safety glasses at work and its a hassle. His prescription is much better than mine though, definitely not above -8.
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