What Ever Happened To.........

[damnotagain]

COMPANY NAME	NOTICE DATE	LAYOFF DATE	EMPLOYEES AFFECTED	INDUSTRY
General Dynamics NASSCO-Mayport 2999 Old Mayport Road Jacksonville, FL 32233	3/1/2013	4/29/2013 thru 4/29/2013	65	Manufacturing
BAE Sys.Southeast Shipyards Mayport LLC  1936 Bailey Avenue Jacksonville, FL 32228	2/26/2013	4/1/2013 thru 6/1/2013	100	Manufacturing
CTI Resource Management Services, Inc. 4800 Spring Park Road Suite 200 Jacksonville, FL 32207	2/21/2013	3/1/2013 thru 3/1/2013	34	Administrative and Support and Waste Management and Remediation Services
Hospitality Property Management II, LLC Perry South Beach Hotel 2377 Collins Avenue Miami Beach, FL 33139	2/19/2013	4/15/2013 thru 4/15/2013	138	Accommodation and Food Services
Transamerica Life Insurance Company 570 Carillon Parkway St. Petersburg, FL 33716	2/19/2013	4/22/2013 thru 4/22/2013	2	Finance and Insurance
Hospitality Property Management, II, LLC Sandy Lane Master Association 2397 Collins Ave. Miami Beach, FL 33139	2/14/2013	4/15/2013 thru 4/15/2013	2	Administrative and Support and Waste Management and Remediation Services
Southern Parking, Inc. Perry South Beach Hotel 2377 Collins Avenue Miami Beach, FL 33139	2/14/2013	4/15/2013 thru 4/15/2013	2	Accommodation and Food Services
Homeward Residential, Inc. 4875 Belfort Road  Suite 130 Jacksonville, FL 32256	2/12/2013	4/15/2013 thru 8/15/2013	370	Finance and Insurance
STK Miami Services, LLC 2377 Collins Avenue  Miami Beach, FL 33139	2/12/2013	4/15/2013 thru 4/15/2013	80	Accommodation and Food Services
Chevron U.S.A. Statewide Statewide, FL 00000	2/8/2013	4/11/2013 thru 4/24/2013	206	Retail Trade
MDT Personnel, LLC 17757 US 19 North, Suite 660 Clearwater, FL 33764	2/6/2013	4/7/2013 thru 4/7/2013	48	Administrative and Support and Waste Management and Remediation Services
CEMEX 1501 Belvedere Road 250 S. Australian Ave. West Palm Beach, FL 33406	1/29/2013	3/31/2013 thru 12/31/2013	79	Management of Companies and Enterprises
Elster AMCO Water, Inc. 1100 S.W. 38th Avenue Ocala, FL 34474	1/28/2013	3/29/2013 thru 6/29/2013	129	Manufacturing
Sweetbay Supermarket Statewide Statewide, FL 00000	1/17/2013	2/13/2013 thru 2/13/2013	153	Retail Trade
American Suzuki Motor Corporation Statewide Statewide, FL 00000	1/14/2013	3/14/2013 thru 3/14/2013	10	Retail Trade
Mortgage Bank 7255 Baymeadows Way Jacksonville, FL 32256	1/14/2013	3/7/2013 thru 3/7/2013	1	Finance and Insurance
STOPS Enterprises, LLC 8855 Grissom Parkway Titusville, FL 32780	1/14/2013	3/29/2013 thru 6/30/2013	126	Transportation and Warehousing
ACCENT Marketing Services, LLC 5931 North Gall Boulevard Zephyrhills, FL 33542	1/10/2013	4/1/2013 thru 4/26/2013	54	Administrative and Support and Waste Management and Remediation Services
Lockheed Martin Gyrocam Systems, L.L.P. 7345 16th St., East, C-101  Sarasota, FL 34243	1/8/2013	3/15/2013 thru 3/15/2013	57	Manufacturing
G&T Conveyor Co., Inc. and G&T Mfg., Inc 476 Southridge Industrial Dr. Tavares, FL 32778	1/7/2013	3/8/2013 thru 6/29/2013	125	Manufacturing
DEL-JEN, Inc. Gainesville Job Corp Center 5301 N.E. 40th Terrace Gainesville, FL 32609	1/2/2013	2/28/2013 thru 2/28/2013	128	Administrative and Support and Waste Management and Remediation Services
Liberty Medical 10400 S. Federal Hwy. Port St. Lucie, FL 34952	1/2/2013	2/16/2013 thru 2/16/2013	260	Wholesale Trade

[damnotagain]

Those look like us manufacturing jobs to me . That's one state .

[frankq]

You know, everybody wants to bitch about government. Government is too big. Government spends too much. Government prints money. Government takes too much taxes. So now it's time to pull back on the reins, just a little bit, and now we can't do that" Wtf.....You guys want it both ways. We're at the point where we're creating another economic demographic here. We have the lower/poorer class, the middle class, and now between us and the rich we are creating the public employee class with guaranteed raises and benefits with cost of living increases every year and guaranteed jobs?
We're creating a block of voters in this country, between these guys and everyone else feeding off the government, and throw in the illegal alien issue, that will control the lives of the rest of us. Aren't you the guy who said you got an "80% pay cut"? Keep this crap up and see how it works out. There has to be a limit.

[frankq]

That's not one million jobs. After sorting out it looks like a few hundred at best. It looks like half those cut already happenned in Feb. What business does the government have to do with American Suzuki? The are shutting down auto production and focusing on motorcycles. They've been cutting people for months. Sweetbay Supermarket? Really? What does that have to do with anything? Liberty Medical is a private company marketing to the public. They accept Medicare payments direct. If whatever they supply to people is covered by Medicare, it will continue. There is nothing anywhere that states that Medicare coverage is changing. By the way, did you know that Medicare pays to have your toenails clipped? Are you kidding me? Yeah....can't possibly cut anything....we're downto the bone. Footnote your sources please.

[damnotagain]

Mar 2, 2013 8:18:30 GMT -5 frankq said:

You know, everybody wants to bitch about government. Government is too big. Government spends too much. Government prints money. Government takes too much taxes. So now it's time to pull back on the reins, just a little bit, and now we can't do that" Wtf.....You guys want it both ways. We're at the point where we're creating another economic demographic here. We have the lower/poorer class, the middle class, and now between us and the rich we are creating the public employee class with guaranteed raises and benefits with cost of living increases every year and guaranteed jobs?
We're creating a block of voters in this country, between these guys and everyone else feeding off the government, and throw in the illegal alien issue, that will control the lives of the rest of us. Aren't you the guy who aid you got an "80% pay cut"? Keep this crap up and see how it works out. There has to be a limit.

Lol  frankq , I personally have no skin in the game , i have worked for myself all my life . Like you I could give a rats ass about our government and how socialist it's become. The way I see its the powers that be want to lower our standard of living while bringing the rest of the worlds up. 

Its nothing personal frank, I've always enjoyed the packs point of view. I respect that not everyone sees the world the same. I wish you and your family nothing but prosperity and good will. 

[frankq]

Lol frankq , I personally have no skin in the game , i have worked for myself all my life . Like you I could give a rats ass about our government and how socialist it's become. The way I see its the powers that be want to lower our standard of living while bringing the rest of the worlds up.

Its nothing personal frank, I've always enjoyed the packs point of view. I respect that not everyone sees the world the same. I wish you and your family nothing but prosperity and good will.

Agreed. Good luck to you as well.

[texasredneck]

frankq after 4 years I finally found something I can agree with you on sequestration. We need a lot more of it not less and make it permanate.

Have a good day and a better tomorrow.

[mmhmm]

Mar 1, 2013 18:05:40 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

Mar 1, 2013 9:53:43 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

*I'll rest it for you.  No need for that. - mmhmm, Administrator

Ok, so how is one to point out ongoing and totally inappropriate behavior in a politically correct way?

By using Report or Moderators Only, sunrnr. 

[mmhmm]

Mar 1, 2013 19:35:47 GMT -5 frankq said:

So mmhmm,

Are you riding herd on us now instead if Virgil? Cool.....

I'm helping out, frankq.  Virgil isn't here as much as I am.  The poor dear has to work!  Eeew!  He also is stuck with all the programming.  I get to just talk and stuff.

[sunrnr]

mmhmm, never mind. I give up .....

[damnotagain]

Mar 2, 2013 8:20:26 GMT -5 frankq said:

That's not one million jobs. After sorting out it looks like a few hundred at best. It looks like half those cut already happenned in Feb. What business does the government have to do with American Suzuki? The are shutting down auto production and focusing on motorcycles. They've been cutting people for months. Sweetbay Supermarket? Really? What does that have to do with anything? Liberty Medical is a private company marketing to the public. They accept Medicare payments direct. If whatever they supply to people is covered by Medicare, it will continue. There is nothing anywhere that states that Medicare coverage is changing. By the way, did you know that Medicare pays to have your toenails clipped? Are you kidding me? Yeah....can't possibly cut anything....we're downto the bone. Footnote your sources please.

Thats is correct frankq, those are just a few hundred jobs associated with the DOD. Lockheed and General dynamics. Like I said that is just one state. 
This is just the start. They are the kind of jobs Americans can not afford to lose

Source as requested  : www.floridajobs.org/office-directory/division-of-workforce-services/workforce-programs/reemployment-and-emergency-assistance-coordination-team-react/warn-notices

[mmhmm]

Mar 2, 2013 13:47:43 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

mmhmm, never mind. I give up .....

It's not time to give up, yet, sunrnr.  It's time to play it safe, watch, and wait.  Patience is a virtue for a reason.  If we all realize there will be differing opinions and that's perfectly okay, we're golden.  If we don't, we've got nothing.  It's not necessary to point out another person as less than intelligent, or dense, or anything like that.  What is workable is to post reality as YOU see it and let others do the same.

[frankq]

mmhmm,

Good deal. We'd rather have you here.

[frankq]

Damn,

Some will be affected no doubt, but nowhere near to the extent advertised. Again, it's really not a cut if it only affects the increase over the previous year. We'll see how it all plays out. If Obama wants to inflict pain to get his way, well that would suck for some people. Just as a point of interest, these notices for job cuts in Florida are not necessarily tied to the sequester are they? It looks like Florida has been posting these every year for some time.

The Department of Economic Opportunity's Reemployment and <nobr>Emergency Assistance</nobr> Coordination Team (REACT) serves as the state’s dislocated worker unit. WARN notices submitted by <nobr>employers</nobr> are processed centrally by the DEO. Florida’s Regional Workforce Boards are responsible for direct services to employers and workers who are affected by layoffs and business closings.

• 2013 WARN Notices
• 2012 WARN Notices
• 2011 WARN Notices
• 2010 WARN Notices
• 2009 WARN Notices
• 2008 WARN Notices
• 2007 WARN Notices
• 2006 WARN Notices
• 2005 WARN Notices
• 2004 WARN Notices
• 2003 WARN Notices
• 2002 WARN Notices
• 2001 WARN Notices
• 2000 WARN Notices
• 1999 WARN Notices

[mmhmm]

LOL!  Ooooh, frankq!  You don't know me.  I can be a real witch (spelled with a "b").  Just ask a few on P&M!  

Seriously, I'm glad to help out.  I missed you guys and am glad to see you again.  Exchange of views can be sticky, but it can sure be done if everybody is willing to make the effort.  You guys are proving it!

[damnotagain]

Testing!

[damnotagain]

Warn notices Are required by law. Anything starting in January associated with DoD is related to sequestration. Obama gave contractors a pass until the first of the year. 

[texasredneck]

damnotagain I believe you are incorrect. Obama gave contractors a pass until the first of the year before the election to make the unemployment numbers look better. He even gave them assurances that they would not face penalties for delaying the notices.

[damnotagain]

Mar 2, 2013 17:22:21 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

damnotagain I believe you are incorrect. Obama gave contractors a pass until the first of the year before the election to make the unemployment numbers look better. He even gave them assurances that they would not face penalties for delaying the notices.

 Obama was Willing to let taxpayers pay the fines.

[sunrnr]

Mar 2, 2013 15:49:25 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Mar 2, 2013 13:47:43 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

mmhmm, never mind. I give up .....

It's not time to give up, yet, sunrnr.  It's time to play it safe, watch, and wait.  Patience is a virtue for a reason.  If we all realize there will be differing opinions and that's perfectly okay, we're golden.  If we don't, we've got nothing.  It's not necessary to point out another person as less than intelligent, or dense, or anything like that.  What is workable is to post reality as YOU see it and let others do the same.

I understand where you're coming from and agree, but until what you're saying applies to everyone all the time, as they say on Shark Tank, "I'm out".
Good luck.

[mmhmm]

Mar 2, 2013 17:47:28 GMT -5 sunrnr said:

Mar 2, 2013 15:49:25 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

It's not time to give up, yet, sunrnr.  It's time to play it safe, watch, and wait.  Patience is a virtue for a reason.  If we all realize there will be differing opinions and that's perfectly okay, we're golden.  If we don't, we've got nothing.  It's not necessary to point out another person as less than intelligent, or dense, or anything like that.  What is workable is to post reality as YOU see it and let others do the same.

I understand where you're coming from and agree, but until what you're saying applies to everyone all the time, as they say on Shark Tank, "I'm out".
Good luck.

It does apply to everyone, sunrnr.  I can't see everything.  I'm just a human being.  If you don't let me know something is wrong, I can't grab it out of thin air.  If you'll point it out to me, I'll take a look and I won't leave you hanging if I can help it.  We may not agree, but I'll communicate!

[damnotagain]

Test!

[frankq]

In the alternate universe of manipulated markets, insane derivatives, massive criminal fraud in both the banking and commodities markets, central bank machinations with currency handouts, and complete dereliction of duty on the part of regulatory bodies, it seems that the basic laws of economic price discovery no longer apply.





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So, according to Silverdoctors, the worlds' supply of silver is extremely tight, and price is being manipulated, but silver is going to boom. If that is the case, and silver is in short supply, why is it, as we can with gold, buy it on sale? According to the above source, silver eagles are scarce and are being rationed.....but you can buy them from Silverdoctors for a minimal fee over spot?? I think these silver salesmen have an extremely vested interest in having some people believe the nonsense they spew. These are the same guys who grossly misquoted the official gold audit, actually added "information" found anywhere in the official documents. Come to think of it, we never got a response to the questions we posed to some out here. Meanwhile....MARKET HITS NEW RECORD!!!! So, you sold out a few years ago and never got back in....too bad........

[frankq]

And as we keep track of the folks,population factors,women,children,kids in rough times,and the BIG Top just keeps on ignoring as it has. Why you can and will certainly SEE some stuff helping the various Foot in The Doors,performing some great suprise tricks. Cause what's going on behind curtains one,two,three,and many more....why they will help these things along. Example,

March 4,2013 - Local homeless shelters feeling strain of sequester cuts
www.14news.com/story/21479784/local-homeless-shelters-feeling-strain-of-sequester-cuts

Lets just cut to the chase and fast forward to the last paragraph of the story:

The Evansville Rescue Mission does not receive any federal or state funding, therefore won't have any budget cuts. But with a new facility, they are prepared to help those agencies, like the United Caring Shelter, should they be forced to turn away clients.

So, the Evansville Rescue Mission, who is doing all of the talking, is not effected...Why aren't we hearing from the United Caring Shelter? How is a 5% accross the board cut going to impact an organization that gets $100,000 in government funding? They're going to lose (potentially) $5000. So, losing 5K over the course of the year is going to spell the End of Times LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Exactly Q.  The cuts are going to sap some growth because it's going to take some disposable income, and result in some jobs cuts.  Those cuts however are going to be offset by a recovering housing market, this is why companies are investing into the USA economy(per recent econ numbers).

I see that you're still unable to get any real conversation going Q.  It's funny how getting real answers is just not going to happen eh?  Honestly man, how can anyone believe in someone that literally, NEVER, stands up for what he's saying, you know what I mean?

Sun, I see that you're gone from here but I just have to say that I think it's funny how there is just nothing but silence on the topic of the amount of gold in the world...

Bottom line here is that the market has doubled and then some in the 5 years that the doom and gloom squad has been on this board.  I say that unless Decoy steps up and starts answering for the things he posts and relates it back into the market in some way, we just leave these guys alone to pretend to know what they are talking about.

Honestly, I wanted to help bring this area back a bit but I just don't have the time that I thought I was going to have going forward when all this is going to be is Decoy acting like we aren't answering him and dogging us in his threads in this veiled way that no matter how many times is reported for COC violation will never lead to a ban.

Especially when all that ends up happening, as displayed on this thread, is the conversation is turned onto an tangent about gold in some form or another.

All the doom and gloomers on here choose to ignore and not debate what is posted on Investing perspectives.  As displayed earlier in this thread, you can't get a strait answer on most subjects when they bring up the topic.  I say we just see if we can get some answers here, on topics like the pizza housing market, or say how much gold is out there.  If not, how can we be wrong? 

[texasredneck]

What is the PIZZA HOUSING MARKET? And about answering questions Burger answer your email please.

[usaone]

Damnotagain....maybe I was dreaming but did I read somewhere on here that you think a double dip recession has already started?

I couldn't disagree more with that. Economy is accelerating.

[damnotagain]

You sunshine pumpers are fun to watch. As the Dow goes up , fine by me, it's on international earning and corporate investments in emerging markets. Add on additional layoffs and job cuts  profits up.                 Let's not even address the Feds money printing. 

 Your right about the amount of physical gold reported on hand. My bad.

As far as double dip goes that's my call , I am sticking to it. The rising cost of health care along with the higher taxes on "The Job Producers " , small buisness , have yet to hit. Real unemployment is at 14 %. Let's wait and see how that credit rating pans out. 

[texasredneck]

Damnotagain the health care cost may be hidden. Mon and dad are going to have to pick up costs for those 26 and under. Nice degree but no job and living at home.

Many companies some openly and many others by stealth are just cuting hours to less than 30 hours so they do not have to pay health care costs.

The burden is then on the individual and will not be reflected in the stastics.

Many simply will not get health insurance. Lets face it they can not afford the costs.

[usaone]

Mar 6, 2013 11:28:53 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

You sunshine pumpers are fun to watch. As the Dow goes up , fine by me, it's on international earning and corporate investments in emerging markets. Add on additional layoffs and job cuts  profits up.                 Let's not even address the Feds money printing. 

 Your right about the amount of physical gold reported on hand. My bad.

As far as double dip goes that's my call , I am sticking to it. The rising cost of health care along with the higher taxes on "The Job Producers " , small buisness , have yet to hit. Real unemployment is at 14 %. Let's wait and see how that credit rating pans out. 


I am a small business. Our Bluecross/Blueshield will not be affected. Our sales have been going up the last 2+ years. Our suppliers tell us the same thing. Unemployment was over 17% a few years ago. Improving but not great.

I don't see a double dip anytime soon. V shaped recovery? Not yet but the economy is picking up steam.