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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 12:49:51 GMT -5
There is a world between condoms and hormonal birth control. Has she tried being fitted for a diaphragm? I used that for years- highly recommend it even though it's a little clunkier than most methods. No reason to have your body flooded with hormones 24/7 when you don't need protection 24/7. When I started dating DH, who had had a vasectomy, I happily got rid of it.
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Post by illinicheme on Jan 27, 2011 14:23:56 GMT -5
No reason to have your body flooded with hormones 24/7 when you don't need protection 24/7. I actually quite like hormonal birth control for a reason other than it's primary purpose (which is great too). My skin is not great on its own, but has been reasonably clear for the past 10 years that I've been on birth control. The pill has been a godsend for my complexion. ;D DH and I are just now starting to TTC (been off pills less than a week), but I'm not looking forward to the probable return of acne.
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Post by kinetickid on Jan 27, 2011 14:25:42 GMT -5
There is a world between condoms and hormonal birth control. Has she tried being fitted for a diaphram? The diaphragm is how I got pregnant . Apparently, it's only about 80% effective.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 27, 2011 14:25:44 GMT -5
I liked the pill till I developed migranes on it. I'd get horrible migranes when it came time to start a new pack. It got progessively worse over the 5 years I was on it to the point of where I couldn't even function.
I like the Mirena a lot better because it does the same thing but it doesn't have the estrogen and is a MUCH smaller dosage since it is right at the source as opposed to having to go thru my bloodstream.
I get all the benefits of the pill without the migranes.
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Post by kinetickid on Jan 27, 2011 14:29:24 GMT -5
I liked the pill till I developed migranes on it. I'd get horrible migranes when it came time to start a new pack. It got progessively worse over the 5 years I was on it to the point of where I couldn't even function. I like the Mirena a lot better because it does the same thing but it doesn't have the estrogen and is a MUCH smaller dosage since it is right at the source as opposed to having to go thru my bloodstream. I get all the benefits of the pill without the migranes. I debated Mirena versus Paragard when I was investigating IUDs. I also get menstrual migraines--on or off the Pill--which are closely tied to hormone levels, so I opted for Paragard since it's hormone-free (I had heard of other migraineurs for whom Mirena induced non-stop headaches). I don't regret it at all.
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Post by Clever Username on Jan 27, 2011 14:32:00 GMT -5
I think stores are very concerned with the morality of their decision. They've chosen to reduce the number of theives by reducing their temptation.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 27, 2011 14:34:19 GMT -5
Mine must have been from the high dose of estrogen in my BC pills. I read that sometimes you can develop them due to estrogen withdrawl as you come down.
So far the Mirena works great for me. I debated on it or the copper as well. I like the shorter lighter periods that come with hormonal BC so I decided to try the Mirena.
Six months and so far no problems. It's also rather nice to not have to worry about taking something every day or putting on a new patch every week or a new ring in every month. It's just there doing it's job.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 27, 2011 14:34:36 GMT -5
Are you kidding? We ought to give away birth control for free. I used to find it amazing that my insurance would pay for pregnancy but not birth control. Same as they'd pay for cancer but not my mammogram. Idiots.
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Post by illinicheme on Jan 27, 2011 14:46:39 GMT -5
I liked the pill till I developed migranes on it. I'd get horrible migranes when it came time to start a new pack. It got progessively worse over the 5 years I was on it to the point of where I couldn't even function. I like the Mirena a lot better because it does the same thing but it doesn't have the estrogen and is a MUCH smaller dosage since it is right at the source as opposed to having to go thru my bloodstream. I get all the benefits of the pill without the migranes. I developed mild migranes when I started on the pill. I started on Ortho Tri-Cyclen way back in the day, and then switched to lo dose Ortho for a few years. I eventually switched to Mircette and I forget what I'm on now (a generic that is close but not exact, as a Mircette equivalent isn't on my current insurance's formulary). I got to the point where I still get annoying cycle-related headaches sometimes, but they're manageable (probably 3 out of 10 on a pain scale at their worst).
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Post by telephus44 on Jan 27, 2011 14:49:52 GMT -5
I've used the pill, Depo, and Mirena (after my son was born). I have to say that I like Depo the best, mostly because I lost my period. Mirena would be second choice - absolutely no maintenance, but I still had monthly spotting. I just took it out last week as we are going for #2. After that I would totally consider having my tubes tied or DH getting a vasectomy.
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Post by michelyn8 on Jan 27, 2011 15:00:19 GMT -5
I can send you all the condoms I keep finding around the BF's house and in his vehicles. We split for a few months last year and apparently he stocked up "just in case". Stung a little the first time I found then but then I was relieved he had the foresight to at least be safe. I am tired of seeing them in the nightstand drawer though since we don't need/use them. I had a tubal ligation 19 years ago and am also on BC pills to help with heavy periods. I started the BC back in October and promptly put on a few pounds. Fortunately I am a small person so the extra weight hasn't hurt me - its actually helped because now I can find clothes that actually fit versus having the smallest size be too loose. The downside is that in September I treated myself to some nice underclothes and now they're all to small.
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Post by Angel! on Jan 27, 2011 15:10:10 GMT -5
I liked the pill till I developed migranes on it. I'd get horrible migranes when it came time to start a new pack. It got progessively worse over the 5 years I was on it to the point of where I couldn't even function. I like the Mirena a lot better because it does the same thing but it doesn't have the estrogen and is a MUCH smaller dosage since it is right at the source as opposed to having to go thru my bloodstream. I get all the benefits of the pill without the migranes. It is funny how everyone is different. I've never had problems with the pill, but had horrible side effects with Mirena - to the point where when the doc called to try to reschedule my appointment to have the thing removed I broke down into tears thinking I would have to have it for a few more weeks. In a moment of desperation I went to the bathroom & removed the thing myself. I was feeling better within days. I have thought about trying depo but am worried about side effects & the fact there is no immediate relief other than time if I do experience side effects (you can always just stop taking the pill).
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jan 27, 2011 16:59:40 GMT -5
After you are done with the baby making and the acne comes back, ask a dermatologist about spironolactone. I've been on it for over a year and I haven't had a single breakout or any side effects. It works really well in conjunction with birth control, but if you are pregnant or trying to be you shouldn't be taking it. Something to consider in the future if you have problems!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2011 17:02:06 GMT -5
I'm really sensitive to hormonal BC - as in nausea and vomiting. So much fun. I've found the nuvaring works great. It's very effective and uses a much lower dose of hormones than oral BC's.
My local grocery store has all the pregnancy tests locked up in a cage. It was pretty funny when I was trying to get pregnant and testing myself and 1 a.m.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jan 27, 2011 17:05:50 GMT -5
...:::"I lost track of the amount of time during my teen/college years that I've put myself at risk (and my partners) because I could not get a condom or did not have one on me.":::...
Further proof that "no glove, no love" died long ago. Either that or you are just irresistable.
...:::"I usually order them online in bulk but sometimes run out":::...
Sigh... back in college, DF and I could use up a 40 pack. Now, I still have 3 left in a 10-pack I bought over a year ago. At least abstinence carries a ZERO risk of pregnancy.
...:::"Has your wife considered an IUD?":::...
A friend of ours says that she has one and its great, but if her husband "bumps" it accidentally, the pain has her seeing stars.
...:::"Can you imagine how much of the excess cost of buying condoms in a store is due to theft?":::...
I had a similar experience with frozen steaks when I did some graphic work for a small grocery store. The manager refused to order certain items, because those items simply didn't MAKE it onto the shelves or into the locked cabinet. The employees unpacking the boxes would help themselves to a few.
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Post by haapai on Jan 27, 2011 17:29:31 GMT -5
Yes, the employees are often the problem and the more that you mark up an item to absorb the shrink, the worse the problem gets. The higher the markup, the more likely it is that an someone who is aware of the markup will take a five-fingered discount.
Maybe this "You're charging WHAT!?" reaction is behind some of the theft of condoms and pregnancy tests. Both items can be purchased in bulk for a tenth of what drug stores charge and are frequently given away without charge in healthcare settings.
Sigh, I miss the days of fishbowls of condoms.
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Post by Jake 48 on Jan 27, 2011 17:53:11 GMT -5
My sister told me a story(I think it was her, though) Friends did not have a condom, so they used a plastic baggie and a rubber band. Personally, I put ribbed condoms on inside out so it will be all about me
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Post by cytoglycerine on Jan 28, 2011 10:35:11 GMT -5
I now use Depo Provera shots. Get one about every 3 months. Best Solution to the issue I have ever experienced. I wish the Depo shot worked properly for me, because I think it's a super convenient way to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. I took a Depo shot once about 7 years ago or so, and I had my period for 4 months straight! I thought I was going to bleed to death! Never again!!!! ETA - Oh good god!! That's the ghettoest thing I've ever heard! LOL!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2011 10:49:48 GMT -5
DH and I are just now starting to TTC (been off pills less than a week), but I'm not looking forward to the probable return of acne.Mine came back shortly after I went off and then for awhile during the first trimester. While pregnant it cleared up and hasn't been back since. I've never had severe or moderate acne though so I am not sure how that would work. I just know I have not had a single pimple since the first trimester. My complaint about stopping the pill is my chest shrank!
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Post by stillontheroad on Jan 28, 2011 16:13:47 GMT -5
At least they're not telling you it's because they have moral objections to made-up science, like pharmacists who won't dispense the Pill. Exactly. I have to say that while I'd be annoyed too, the reasoning makes sense. (Usually the sanctimonious types who'd refuse to carry it based on their personal beliefs are all too happy to share them with you, too, so I would guess the store is telling the truth). I can't fault a store for deciding not to carry an item that doesn't make them enough money, though I also question why they can't just keep them behind the pharmacy counter. Are you kidding? We ought to give away birth control for free. I used to find it amazing that my insurance would pay for pregnancy but not birth control. I agree 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 16:28:07 GMT -5
I took a Depo shot once about 7 years ago or so, and I had my period for 4 months straight! I thought I was going to bleed to death! Never again!!!! Yeah, that always scared me about the Depo shot. If you get side effects to pills you can quit taking them, at least. No way to undo the shot. I agree also on the free BC. Back in the 1970s when I was in college, the student health center actually did offer free BC pills through some sort of grant. I never signed up for it; without the grant they cost some piddly amount that I could afford even on a student budget. I figured the grant money should be used for women who had tighter budgets.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2011 16:32:12 GMT -5
My employer covers Viagra thru their Rx plan but didn't start covering BC pills till two years ago. Then they only cover BC pills, no other form. If you want Depo, it's on your own dime.
Since the IUD has to be inserted I lucked out and it qualifies under medical insurance so I got that paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2011 16:36:22 GMT -5
Thanks everyone... and for some of the birth control mentioned aboved (IUD I think), her doctor will not put one for her sinced we have no kids. I believe we need to have at least 1 kid for her to put one in for my wife. And yes while I understand the whole issue beind theft, why not put them at the customer service desk like cigarettes. Anyway, just placed an order online
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Post by stantonjane on Jan 29, 2011 1:10:28 GMT -5
Okay, this brings up an oldie but goodie. It's on topic concerning the size issue. President Boris Yeltsin called President Bush with an emergency: "Our largest condom factory has exploded!" the Russian President cried; "My people's favourite form of birth control! This is a true disaster!" "Boris, the American people would be happy to do anything within their power to help you.", replied the President. "I do need your help," said Yeltsin. "Could you possibly send 1,000,000 condoms ASAP to tie us over?" "Why certainly! I'll get right on it!", said Bush. "Oh, and one more small favour, please?", said Yeltsin. "Yes?", replied the President. "Could the condoms be red in colour and at least 10" long and 4" in diameter?" said Yeltsin. "No problem," replied the President and, with that, Bush hung up and called the President of Trojan condoms. "I need a favour, you've got to make 1,000,000 condoms right away and send them to Russia." "Consider it done," said the President of Trojan. "Great! Now listen, they have to be red in colour, 10" long and 4" wide." "Easily done. Anything else?" "Yeah," said the President, "Print 'MADE IN AMERICA, SIZE MEDIUM' on each one."
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Post by midjd on Jan 29, 2011 14:51:27 GMT -5
Well I've never had a child, and my doctor had no problem giving me an IUD... it is easier to insert if you've had a kid (otherwise they have to give you oxytocin to dilate your cervix) but not impossible. Some doctors refuse to do it, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 21:19:28 GMT -5
A twist on how old were you when you learned about sex. My wife and I still use condoms because she had issues with the different birth control we have tried in the past (weight gains, headaches, spotting, etc) I usually order them online in bulk but sometimes run out; so I would stop at a store to purchase some. Since I've moved to my area this past June I've gone to two well known stores and they told me they did not sell condoms nor pregnancy tests. Why? Theft... their shrink on such products is out of control so they rather not carry it. We are not talking about some mom and pops, but Shop Rite, Price Chopper, Hannaford, etc. I understand where they are coming from: if most of the condoms and birth control are being stolen... it makes financial sense to stop carrying it. But then is it responsible? What is their moral responsibility? Or they don't owe anyone anything and the bottom line ($$$$) is all that matters. Where is this?
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Post by sunshinegal1981 on Jan 30, 2011 4:59:40 GMT -5
Has your wife considered an IUD? I have a copper IUD and it's the best birth control ever. Good for 10 years and it's at least as effective as tubal ligation at preventing pregnancy (don't ask me how that's possible, but that's the information I was given). It's also easily removed when/if you want a kid later. Best $660 I ever spent. I third this suggestion. I had the copper Paragard for 4 years with no problems whatsoever. Hubs and I decided to have #2, so I had it removed and we were pregnant by the next month. Had a second Paragard put in place a month after #2 was born, and we're loving it all over again. I had so many problems with hormonal birth control (weight gain, mood swings) and we absolutely hate condoms. This IUD is a godsend. And my gyno says the length of time its good for has been upped to 12 years, not 10. We spent about $500 for it but Paragard offers a no interest monthly payment plan we took advantage of - $41/month for a year. I highly recommend the Paragard. I will FOURTH this IUD suggestion, and it is NOT TRUE that it's only for women who have had a child. Ive never been pregnant, and I just got mine put in this past August. Have been enjoying, wild, spontaneous, stress-free sex ever since. ;-) OP, tell your wife to schedule a hot date with her gyno!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2011 9:07:06 GMT -5
I will FOURTH this IUD suggestion, and it is NOT TRUE that it's only for women who have had a child. My contraceptive choices were limited in the 1970s: high-dose pills, and IUDs that were larger and definitely were only for women who had had kids. Some of the newer IUDs are smaller but they contain substances that prevent pegnancy (copper is a good example). So your wife may have some IUD choices that will work. They've been around for probably 20 years so they have a good track record. Maybe she needs a new doctor if her current one doesn't think any IUDs are appropriate.
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