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Post by suziq38 on May 1, 2012 18:51:04 GMT -5
My doctor has. In fact, for every visit within the last 10 years prior to this one, he has pleaded nicely with me to lose my extra pounds.
I tried to say that it was hormones, stress, etc., but he didn't seem to care.
I finally told him to "back off" because I had just had a hysterectomy in February 2011. He still didn't care.
Does your doctor "hound" you about this?? If so, do you go on a diet, or ignore him or her, or change doctors?
How many of you actually got so annoyed that you lost the weight?
How many of you didn't lose it but decided to get another doctor instead?
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 1, 2012 19:50:35 GMT -5
I have the opposite situation, suziq. My doctor keeps telling me I could use a few more pounds on my body. I'm not saying this to make you feel bad. It's just that I understand what you are saying. I DO eat. I'm just one of those people who doesn't gain weight. I've had people ask me if I have an eating disorder! Now mind you, I'm not deathly skinny, I just don't have any extra. It's annoying to me because I do try. It's also annoying to be told, time after time, that I need to do something about my weight.
But suzie? I'm sure your doctor isn't doing it to make you feel bad. He's obviously a very concerned doctor who cares about your health. You don't say how much extra weight you have, but if it's affecting your blood pressure, etc., he just wants you to feel better. My mother needs to lose some weight and those extra pounds are causing her some problems. She keeps going to the doctor for blood pressure, sore knees, an aching back.......all of which are attributed to her weight.
I would imagine another doctor is going to tell you the same thing. And that "stress", "hormones" and a hysterectomy are just excuses. If you are comfortable with your weight and it isn't causing you health issues, just tell him that. Tell him you've heard him but that you don't intend to change things for now. I'm not saying he'll stop because, in my opinion, he wouldn't be a responsible doctor if he did.
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Post by gavinsnana on May 1, 2012 19:53:18 GMT -5
No, they say my weight is fine.. but being a woman, I am never happy with my weight.. ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on May 1, 2012 19:58:42 GMT -5
GEL, I don't like you anymore... and you are not invited to dinner.. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gavinsnana on May 1, 2012 19:59:46 GMT -5
I am in the beginning of the Cholesterol years. I try to eat right and take Vit. that help that.
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Post by zibazinski on May 1, 2012 20:00:24 GMT -5
The doctor i used to date made the patients that he had counseled about their weight initial in their charts that he had told them to lose weight. That way when and if they succumbed to an illness weight related, their family couldn't sue him. One of my co-workers doctor fired him as a patient because he wouldn't lose weight. Now this co-worker was 30 years old with the health issues of a much older and sicker person. Hugely overweight. Such a nice young man, too, and cute. I worry about him still because if the shock of having your doctor give you the heave no wasn't enough of a wake up call and you are on enough meds to support a small pharmacy at the age of 30, when are you going to lose weight?
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Post by gavinsnana on May 1, 2012 20:00:48 GMT -5
lol.. No, really she knows I love her.. jk ;D
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Post by zibazinski on May 1, 2012 20:02:09 GMT -5
Btw, I just lost my motherand even though I feel it was unecessary, on her death certificate along with three other things is morbid obesity. No way in hell is that going to be on my death certificate!
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Post by gavinsnana on May 1, 2012 20:11:44 GMT -5
Btw, I just lost my motherand even though I feel it was unecessary, on her death certificate along with three other things is morbid obesity. No way in hell is that going to be on my death certificate! So sorry for your loss. I cannot believe they put that on her DC..
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Post by zibazinski on May 1, 2012 20:13:58 GMT -5
I was pretty upset. Like that was insult to injury. She was very upset the day she called me to tell me her doctor had called her obese. I reminded her that he did not stay awake all night thinking of ways to insult his patients and that he wanted her to be shocked enough to lose the weight. No longer an issue now.
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Post by mmhmm on May 1, 2012 20:21:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately, morbid obesity is a medical diagnosis. If the death certificate calls for the cause of death, medical diagnoses are what's put into that space. It's probably what was on her hospital record and was copied into the death certificate from those records. It was a contributive cause of her death.
Like GEL, I'm a person who just doesn't gain weight. I have to fight for every pound and it's a long, uphill battle if I lose weight due to illness or stress. It's really not that much different from being overweight, except it's not a medical diagnosis unless it's very serious, or anorexia nervosa.
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Post by zibazinski on May 1, 2012 20:26:46 GMT -5
It's still hurtful. She didn't die from being fat. Why be so mean about it?
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Post by mmhmm on May 1, 2012 20:39:02 GMT -5
It isn't meant to be mean, zibazinski. Somebody simply copied it from the medical record without thinking about it. A death certificate is a legal document. If the cause of death in the medical record states morbid obesity, that's what will be on the death certificate. It's a matter of legality, not cruelty. Because morbid obesity is, indeed, a medical condition that can cause/contribute to death, it's valid on a legal document like a death certificate.
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Post by mizbear on May 1, 2012 21:47:27 GMT -5
Until about 8 years ago the doc bugged me about keeping weight on and then my ex-shrink mucked with my meds and the rest is history.
Unfortunately history decided to stay right around my middle. So, my doc has been trying to get me to lose some weight. However- her reason is mainly because of my family history- diabetes, HBP, heart disease, kidney disease, cancer, etc. So, she wants to head problems off at the pass.
I want them to put "completed to do list" as my cause of death- not some preventable disease- and my to do list is nowhere near done.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 1, 2012 22:10:09 GMT -5
GEL, I don't like you anymore... and you are not invited to dinner.. ;D ;D ;D You don't want me at dinner! I eat like a horse!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 1, 2012 22:10:37 GMT -5
GEL, I don't like you anymore... and you are not invited to dinner.. ;D ;D ;D Yeah! What she said. LOL!! Fine! I was going to bring strawberry shortcake!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 1, 2012 22:12:04 GMT -5
I'm sorry for your loss, zib, and sorry that you were hurt by what was listed on the dc. I'm sure you know that "obese" is an actual medical term and not meant to be an insult of any kind.
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Post by mizbear on May 1, 2012 23:08:21 GMT -5
Even when it's not meant to hurt, I know it hurts to see the diagnosis of obese on your chart. I'm there. I am used to having a size 24-26 waist- I stopped measuring. I can't look at it. Right now I am just happy that my boobs are bigger than my stomach again- and I am still ticked that my boobs are huge. I used to complain about being a 36C. I'm nowhere near in the physical shape I used to be in- it hurts- I can at least say that my blood pressure does stay down as long as my DB stays far far away .
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 2, 2012 7:56:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I had a doctor with the bedside manner of a flea put obese on paperwork I was taking to another doctor. That stung. I started walking shortly after that, lost a bunch of weight, etc. Then started dating DH and stopped exercising (I wanted to spend my free time with him, my choice) and now am sort of back to where I was 12 years ago. My weight's packaged differently now.
But back to the original question - No, my doctor doesn't hound me about my weight. However, I usually bring it up and we talk about where I am. Basically, it's only now that I'm willing to start working on losing it again. If you're not ready to lose weight and it's not really causing you health issues, you need to be comfortable telling your doctor that you're not ready to do so. Or if you take a baby step in doing something to improve your health, talk about that. My experience with doctors is that they'll support and encourage you to get into a place where you DO want to do something about your health or weight.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 7:58:06 GMT -5
This is why I don't go to the doctor.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on May 2, 2012 8:20:01 GMT -5
I look at it this way. If I've been hired to take care of someone's taxes, my job is to try to improve their tax situation as best I can. If I have to bug them about keeping receipts or filing on time or something, then that's my job. If I'm not doing that, I'm not doing the best job I can on their taxes. Likewise, my doctor's job is to try to get and keep me healthier. If he's not bugging me to change something in my life that is making me less healthy, then he's not doing a very good job and I'm not sure I'd want him looking after me! ETA: For me, it's not necessarily weight nagging, but rather about getting more regular exercise and activity.
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 2, 2012 11:46:03 GMT -5
Op, while stress and hormones are certainly a factor, you and you alone decide what you put in your mouth and how much you move around. Your doctor is trying to save your life, your quality of life, and spare the people you claim to love the pain of dealing with the fallout from your self inflicted illnesses. If his bottom line were more important to him than your quality of life, your doctor would be keeping his mouth shut. Is that the kind of doctor you want to have?
I've watched several relatives eat themselves to death. It is a nasty, nasty way to go, puts a huge burden on the rest of the family, and leaves loved ones with the same feelings of anger and hurt that the families of dead addicts have.
I know there are times when life events make it difficult to be proactive about your health. I've been there myself. But I do hope you take control soon. If you're already stressed, the last thing you need is a boatload of self inflicted health problems.
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on May 2, 2012 11:51:35 GMT -5
If his bottom line were more important to him than your quality of life, your doctor would be keeping his mouth shut. Is that the kind of doctor you want to have? Too true! Things the doctor does to increase our wellness may cause him to lose money when we don't come in for illnesses! I remind myself of this when the dentist nags me about flossing. He'd make a lot more money if he never tried to help my dental hygiene! ;D
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Post by zibazinski on May 2, 2012 12:55:55 GMT -5
I know it wasn't meant to be cruel and they don't think about it when they put it on the death certificate, but still....
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Post by Clever Username on May 2, 2012 13:40:46 GMT -5
My wife was hospitalized last year for a lung infection. Nothing too serious, we just chose IV antibiotic and an overnight rather than oral. Cleared up the infection very quickly, as planned.
During the followup with her doc, she had BP issues come up. Weight was one of the key factors. Was her doc blunt? Yes Was she rude? Yes. Was she mean? Yes.
but..... Was she right? Yes. Was she doing her job? Yes. Was it effective? Yes.
I think before that appointment, our views on he weight were always pretty similar to your OP. As the colorful expression goes, excuses are like a-holes. Everybody's got them and they all stink.
Though I feel for your with the stress, hormones and hysterectomy, we're talking about a 10 year issue here. Under that scope, they're all pretty much irrelevant to your need to address this issue.
We've always had a similar response to yours. It's baby weight, it's stress, she eats healthy, she excercises. But it's gotta take something to trigger change and none of these excuses did it.
And your doctor being blunt? I chalk that up to trying a new tactic, the first 10 tries at being nice all failed.
My wife is down about 20 pounds since the first of the year. Find a system that works with the way your brain operates. She's an analytical thinker. An ap called Fitness Tracker did all of the boring and confusing legwork, but ultimately fed into the thousands of food and activity choices it took to go from there to here.
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 2, 2012 14:30:55 GMT -5
I know it wasn't meant to be cruel and they don't think about it when they put it on the death certificate, but still.... Honestly, it sounds more like the anger that is a normal part of the mourning process. Your mother chose not to take care of her health and now she's gone. You have every right to be angry and hurt, just not with the folks who put the real cause of death on her death certificate.
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Post by mizbear on May 2, 2012 14:35:29 GMT -5
When I first put all this weight on, the doctor gave it a year to leave everything alone. She wanted to make sure that everything I had put on was strictly medication- and that's what it was.
I lost 30 pounds at one point- gained it back- but no more.
3 years ago- I moved out. I immediately lost 30 pounds- despite having my ankle in a cast and then an air brace for several months. Then my grandmother got sick and I started eating meals with them because of both scheduling and to appease her.
I gained it all back
Then I started losing again
When my DGM died last fall I thought I would start losing again- HA!
I gained 25 pounds after DM moved in because she doesn't cook!
The doctor cracked down on DM first
Then informed me that there is no reason for me NOT to lose the weight because I can do it- she has seen me do it- I have the knowledge and the tools. I cook, I am physically able to exercise- I'm willing to give up my Starbucks (which is my vice since I don't drink smoke or have a boy toy) to join the gym if I have to.
Did I realy like the fact that she then went and compared me to my mom and brother inthe weight department- in the words of Gabriel Iglesias- Aw- Hell no! But- that was my kick in the pants. My mother can not walk up th steps to my apartment with her purse and a bottle of soda without puffing.
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Post by moxie on May 2, 2012 14:46:45 GMT -5
"Has Your Doctor Asked You To Go On A Diet?"
My doctor's FAT, so NO...it doesn't get mentioned...lol I try to eat healthy and exercise, but it's a fact that you can gain weight post-menopause.
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Post by moxie on May 2, 2012 14:49:25 GMT -5
The key is to find a morbidly obese Dr. IMO
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 2, 2012 14:50:10 GMT -5
No, because I addressed the issue when I was 30 lbs overweight, instead of waiting until I was obese.
I saw a poster for a specific diet in the exam room, asked the doctor about it, and went on it as soon as I stopped nursing.
I was annoyed that I had spent the past 5 years 30 lbs overweight, had developed pre-eclampsia at the end of my second pregnancy, was having back problems, and my weight was still slowly creeping up, even though I was no longer a sressed out basketcase. And by basketcase, I mean spending every winter flirting with pneumonia, breaking out in hives, and bursting into tears work nearly every week. Bear in mind, I used to be so in control of my emotions that I didn't cry at my father's funeral.
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