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Post by traelin0 on Jan 21, 2011 21:13:39 GMT -5
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handyman2
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Post by handyman2 on Jan 21, 2011 21:16:52 GMT -5
This was needed but it excerbates the economic problems and the Euro
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Post by stayput on Jan 22, 2011 0:12:23 GMT -5
This is just ridiculous. Doesn't everybody know that we are in a "Recovery"?
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Post by ugonow on Jan 22, 2011 12:22:53 GMT -5
This seems so long ago. I hate to say it,but republicans should have picked a better model for austerity.
------January 28, 2009 REPUBLICANS HEART IRISH TAX RATES.... While pushing back against the economic stimulus plan, Republicans have, of course, been demanding more tax cuts. But what kind of tax cuts are we talking about? Republican Policy Committee Chairman John Ensign, the fourth-ranking Republican in the chamber, argued yesterday:
"You know, we have the second highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. Microsoft, which is a great American company, has zero exports from the United States. They have a lot of exports from Ireland, because, guess what, Ireland has a 12.5 percent corporate tax rate; we have a 35 percent corporate tax rate."
Are we back to this again? John McCain relied on this talking point quite a bit last year. In the first presidential debate, the Republican nominee said: "Right now, the United States of American business pays the second-highest business taxes in the world, 35 percent. Ireland pays 11 percent. Now, if you're a business person, and you can locate any place in the world, then, obviously, if you go to the country where it's 11 percent tax versus 35 percent, you're going to be able to create jobs, increase your business, make more investment, et cetera."
I'd hoped we were past this, but so long as congressional Republicans want to re-litigate this as part of the stimulus debate, we might as well set the record straight. Igor Volsky explained that the Republican argument is "full of so many other holes, you can drain spaghetti with it."
* America's Effective Tax Rate Is Comparable To Other G7 Nations: According to a recent U.S. Treasury report, the effective tax rate on equipment financed by equity is 24 percent, the same as the G-7 average. The rate on equipment financed by debt is minus 46 percent, meaning that the government actually subsidizes these investments rather than taxing them.
* America Is The Number One Country To Do Business: The World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Report for 2007-2008 concluded that the United States is most business friendly, followed by Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland and Singapore. Ireland came in at number 22.
* Two-Thirds Of Corporations Did Not Pay Taxes: According to last month's Government Accountability Office (GAO) report, between 1998 and 2005 "about two-thirds of corporations operating in the United States did not pay taxes" because of a variety of corporate tax loopholes.
* US Raises Less Taxes From Corporations Than Ireland: In the United States, corporate revenues as a percentage of GDP was about 2.2 percent; Ireland raised close to 4 percent.
Yglesias added a while back, "Ireland really could be a model for successful reform in the United States; reform that would be aimed at growing the tax base by closing loopholes and, in exchange, lowering the rate. That would, if calibrated correctly, both boost economic growth and efficiency somewhat and also increase tax revenues. But a simple across-the-board rate cut would accomplish nothing of the sort."
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 22, 2011 13:02:01 GMT -5
* America Is The Number One Country To Do Business: The World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Report for 2007-2008 concluded that the United States is most business friendly, followed by Switzerland, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland and Singapore. Ireland came in at number 22. www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/united-states-slips-on-economic-freedom-indexThe United States has slipped on the Economic Freedom Index. The newly released Heritage Foundation and Wall Street Journal’s Index of Economic Freedom 2010 rates countries based on ten components of economic freedom. This year, the United States slipped to the ninth freest country in the world. The researchers have included the United States in the “mostly free” category. According to the study, the United States is behind the countries of Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Canada, Ireland and Denmark. We’ve become less free since the 1990’s. In the first annual Index of Economic Freedom in 1995, the United States was the fourth freest country in the world.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 22, 2011 13:05:24 GMT -5
We have to be real here for a second. 2007 - 2008 is out of date. We have spent nearly $4 trillion since then on political slush funds. We need to get back on track. Ireland didn't collapse because of low corporate tax rates- if anything, that probably delayed the inevitable for some time. Ireland collapsed because of spending- bailouts.
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