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Post by flow5 on Sept 17, 2011 17:28:00 GMT -5
Is that what I said? How long did you trade the Deutsche Mark?
Germany's goal has always been to maintain a strong currency. That's the inference.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 18, 2011 9:01:34 GMT -5
"For the first time ever, a clear majority (60%) of Germans no longer sees any benefits to being part of the Eurozone, given all the risks, according to a poll published September 16 (FAZ, article in German)."
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A new Deutsche Mark in the works?
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Post by verrip1 on Sept 18, 2011 10:29:47 GMT -5
Flow5 wrote that Germany does not sell its gold. That's not true. The German Federal Government mints and sells gold coins made from gold provided by the Bundesbank [check out the Bundesbank website www.bundesbank.de/index.en.php ] Ergo, Germany does sell gold. Please do try to avoid inaccurate overgeneralizations.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 18, 2011 10:49:02 GMT -5
That of course, was never the issue. 17 Eurozone member states, & one with more gold (numismatic), coins than the others? That makes the Euro stronger vis a' vis its other trading partners?
Well in my 20 years + of currency futures trading, the Central Bank's gold sales have never been pivotal. I outlined the salient factors. You jumped on the wrong conclusion.
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Post by verrip1 on Sept 18, 2011 12:13:37 GMT -5
No. You overstated, and were wrong even when I offered you wiggle room. Unfortunately, the high esteem in which you hold yourself prevents you from manning up when you are wrong.
Too bad, Mr. Expert.
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Post by dothedd on Sept 18, 2011 12:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by flow5 on Sept 19, 2011 8:10:07 GMT -5
The U.S. sells numismatics too. Big deal.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 19, 2011 9:30:52 GMT -5
Monday, September 19, 2011
"Germany and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) , whose value would be approximately 134,000 million (93,800 million euros) the current price. However, financial experts warn that the SALE OF GOLD RESERVES WOULD NOT SOLVE THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS that exist and which would only be “a drop in the sea,” while dynamite investor confidence, according to analyst Commerzbank raw materials, Eugen Weinberg"
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Post by flow5 on Sept 19, 2011 10:01:04 GMT -5
"The Deutsche Bundesbank, Germany's central bank, is the most influential member of the European System of Central Banks. With a hefty 3,412.6 tonnes of gold reserves, which are valued at about $113.2 billion at current prices, Germany's gold accounts for almost 70% of the country's total foreign reserves"
"Axel Weber clarified when he stated, “Gold is a useful counter to the swings of the $”
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Weber's statement was in 2007. And it is true that if Germany did use its gold reserves it could influence the Euros' exchange rate vs. the U.S. dollars'. But the point is that they don't & haven't which is pertinent to the thread's topic & currency trading.
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This is the ECB agreement:
PRESS RELEASE 7 August 2009 - Joint Statement on Gold European Central Bank
Nationale Bank van België/Banque Nationale de Belgique
Deutsche Bundesbank
Central Bank and Financial Services Authority of Ireland
Bank of Greece
Banco de España
Banque de France
Banca d’Italia
Central Bank of Cyprus
Banque centrale du Luxembourg
Bank Ċentrali ta’ Malta/Central Bank of Malta
De Nederlandsche Bank
Oesterreichische Nationalbank
Banco de Portugal
Banka Slovenije
Národná banka Slovenska
Suomen Pankki – Finlands Bank
Sveriges Riksbank
Swiss National Bank
In the interest of clarifying their intentions with respect to their gold holdings the undersigned institutions make the following statement:
1.Gold remains an important element of global monetary reserves.
2.The gold sales already decided and to be decided by the undersigned institutions will be achieved through a concerted programme of sales over a period of five years, starting on 27 September 2009, immediately after the end of the previous agreement. Annual sales will not exceed 400 tonnes and total sales over this period will not exceed 2,000 tonnes.
3.The signatories recognize the intention of the IMF to sell 403 tonnes of gold and noted that such sales can be accommodated within the above ceilings.
4.This agreement will be reviewed after five years.
European Central Bank
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Post by maui1 on Sept 19, 2011 10:42:23 GMT -5
maybe the aussie dollar...........but surly not the usa dollar
just because the euro stinks, does not make the usa dollar smell like a rose......because it stinks to, not as bad as the euro, but stinks just the same.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 19, 2011 12:37:54 GMT -5
U.S $ INDEX (NYBOT:DX 77.291 +0.256 (+0.33%)
Just like the game of chicken.
"NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks sank Monday as optimism faded that a bailout package for Greece would take shape in time to keep the country from defaulting on its debts"
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Post by flow5 on Sept 19, 2011 18:00:51 GMT -5
US Dollar 77.348 +0.313 +0.40%
Gold 1781.10 -41.86 -2.30%
Did Germany sell gold?
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Post by flow5 on Sept 21, 2011 18:35:31 GMT -5
U.S $ INDEX (NYBOT:DX) 77.750 +0.408 (+0.52%)
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Post by usaone on Sept 22, 2011 7:44:07 GMT -5
Dollar up and Gold down Flow.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 22, 2011 8:25:11 GMT -5
78.669 +1.327 (+1.71%) smokin!
That's what operation twist was specifically designed to do in the early 60's - curb gold conversion & prop the dollar vis a' vis Europe.
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Post by flow5 on Sept 22, 2011 8:29:58 GMT -5
Operation Twist will just increase our trade deficit & ultimately boost the price of gold in terms of dollars.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Sept 22, 2011 11:13:16 GMT -5
Great call on the dollar flow5. respects
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Post by flow5 on Sept 23, 2011 20:47:05 GMT -5
BBA LIBOR USD 3 Month (US0003M:IND) VALUE: 0.360 USD (up from 0.250 in July) ============= Euribor-OIS Spread Rises for 3rd Day to Highest in 2 1/2 Years By David Goodman and Keith Jenkins - Sep 23, 2011 A measure of banks’ reluctance to lend to one another in Europe rose for a third day to the highest since March 2009. The Euribor-OIS spread, the difference between the three- month euro interbank offered rate and overnight index swaps, climbed to 89 basis points as of 5:10 p.m. in London, from 85 yesterday, Bloomberg data show. ...The cost of converting euro payments into dollars, measured by the one-year cross-currency basis swap, was little changed at 75 basis points less than Euribor, the biggest gap since December 2008, Bloomberg data show. The three-month cross-currency basis swap was 105 basis points below the euro interbank offered rate, compared with 106 basis points yesterday. The cost was 112.5 basis points under Euribor on Sept. 12, when the swap was the most expensive since December 2008. The ECB said financial institutions increased overnight deposits. Banks parked 136.5 billion euros ($184 billion) with the Frankfurt-based lender yesterday, compared with 121.4 billion euros on Sept. 21 and 197.8 billion euros on Sept. 12, the ECB said. Euribor Rises Three-month Euribor -- the rate banks say they pay for three-month loans in euros -- rose to 1.537 percent from 1.536 percent yesterday. One-week Euribor increased to 1.18 percent from 1.17 percent. The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, for three- month dollar loans rose for an eleventh day, climbing to 0.360 percent from 0.358 percent, according to data from the British Bankers’ Association. That’s the highest rate since Aug. 16, 2010. The TED spread, or the difference between what lenders and the U.S. government pay to borrow for three months, was little changed at 36.5 basis points, the highest since July 2010, Bloomberg data show. The cost of insuring against default on European bank debt plunged, with the Markit iTraxx Financial Index of credit- default swaps on the senior debt of 25 banks and insurers dropping 20 basis points to 282, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. An index on subordinated index was down 15 basis points at 525. Credit-default swaps pay the buyer face value in exchange for the underlying securities or the cash equivalent should a borrower fail to adhere to its debt agreements. www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-23/euribor-ois-spread-rises-for-3rd-day-to-highest-in-2-1-2-years.html
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Post by usaone on Jan 15, 2012 13:26:20 GMT -5
Dollar has out performed Gold in the short term.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jan 16, 2012 1:17:22 GMT -5
Good call so far. Wonder how the dollar will do now that the EU has such a high rating?
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Post by usaone on Feb 14, 2012 18:46:49 GMT -5
Dollar should start another leg up. And when Ben raises rates....sooner than we think...look out.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Feb 16, 2012 2:34:35 GMT -5
I would have to agree with ya, big surprise, right?
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