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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 15:48:52 GMT -5
Doing this till midnight, I am always impatent on these things, feel most are and seems we have a full crew here today Ok ready, at the mark....GO. ;D oops, time for poll was not what i wanted, {sigh}..ok , guess we go with whats here.{My bad...again  |
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 20, 2011 15:59:28 GMT -5
You need a third choice for those of us who want to see legitimate proof before we reach a conclusion.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 16:00:29 GMT -5
...good point...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 16:03:54 GMT -5
The poll does not specify of which country we beleive Obama is a legitimate citizen of. I presume most people feel he is a legitimate citizen of one country.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 16:06:37 GMT -5
dezi, Isn't it fun to put up a poll and watch the critics come out.  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 16:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 16:08:29 GMT -5
;D
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 20, 2011 16:17:09 GMT -5
You need a third choice for those of us who want to see legitimate proof before we reach a conclusion. How 'bout a 4th choice too ....common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. |
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 16:21:06 GMT -5
You need a third choice for those of us who want to see legitimate proof before we reach a conclusion. You either believe or don't belive Ed. Real simple. I was thinking of adding the planet Kryptine as a posibility but that might get the Plutonians upset , not counting the Venusuians a real stiff necked people, so for peaceful reasons decided not to. |
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 16:24:15 GMT -5
dezi, Isn't it fun to put up a poll and watch the critics come out. ;)Yeah..I thought i set it up as a secret one, screwed it up, but it seems to be going ok. { Ok there was Ed, but there always is Ed}Was really tempted on the planet Krypton though. ;D |
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 16:27:50 GMT -5
The poll does not specify of which country we beleive Obama is a legitimate citizen of. I presume most people feel he is a legitimate citizen of one country. Guess what is meant I guess. Ok , since don't know how to modify a poll , Obama a citizen of the USA Obama is not a citizen of the USA sok? |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 16:30:15 GMT -5
The poll does not specify of which country we beleive Obama is a legitimate citizen of. I presume most people feel he is a legitimate citizen of one country. Guess what is meant I guess. Ok , since don't know how to modify a poll , Obama a citizen of the USA Obama is not a citizen of the USA sok? My understanding is you can't modify a poll once it is up. Propably a good thing since someone would do a poll than change the options around to get the results they want.  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 16:33:44 GMT -5
<<< ....common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. >>> ...do you really, really, think she could've gotten definitive proof that quickly? that she stayed essentially silent should be proof positive that definitive proof is still pending...  |
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Post by workpublic on Jan 20, 2011 16:38:33 GMT -5
.common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. >>>
the fix was in for obama. she was told at a bilderberg meeting.
if she didn't play ball and take a lessor position she would have been killed, imho. ;D
plus the clintons and the bushes are partners on a lot of stuff.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 16:41:31 GMT -5
<<< ....common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. >>> ...do you really, really, think she could've gotten definitive proof that quickly? that she stayed essentially silent should be proof positive that definitive proof is still pending... Quickly? How long do you think it would take? On July 27, 2004, Barack Obama, then a senatorial candidate from Illinois, delivered an electrifying speech to the 2004 Democratic Convention. As the result of the now-legendary speech (presented below), Obama rose to national prominence, and his speech is regarded as one of the great political statements of the 21st century. usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/ObamaSpeech.htm  |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 16:45:33 GMT -5
.common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. >>> the fix was in for obama. she was told at a bilderberg meeting. if she didn't play ball and take a lessor position she would have been killed, imho. ;D plus the clintons and the bushes are partners on a lot of stuff. (This is one of my personal favorites.) You don't think [glow=red,2,300]THEY[/glow] could have gotten a "clean" candidate? |
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Post by steff on Jan 20, 2011 16:57:06 GMT -5
So the build-a-burgers are powerful enough to pick the next President, but not powerful enough to produce a birth certificate that would placate everyone.
LOLOLOLOLOL ooooooooh those scary powerful build-a-burgers!
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 17:03:41 GMT -5
Guess what is meant I guess. Ok , since don't know how to modify a poll , Obama a citizen of the USA Obama is not a citizen of the USA sok? My understanding is you can't modify a poll once it is up. Propably a good thing since someone would do a poll than change the options around to get the results they want. Makes sense to me, and think 99.7 % have it figured out..the .3 ?? They are probably the old moderators who are out of work right now, possible p off too. |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 17:08:12 GMT -5
<<< Quickly? How long do you think it would take? >>> ...idk... we're still waiting, right? and he wasn't in the primaries in '04, so your link is a moot point... |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 17:38:51 GMT -5
<<< Quickly? How long do you think it would take? >>> ...idk... we're still waiting, right? and he wasn't in the primaries in '04, so your link is a moot point... You think that political operatives wait until someone makes an official announcement before they start working on strategies to defeat them?  |
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 20, 2011 17:45:08 GMT -5
That's like voting in Chicago...
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Post by rockon on Jan 20, 2011 18:17:35 GMT -5
This poll is lacking the obvious choice. We don't know. I doubt anyone posting here has reviewed the documents necessary to ascertain his citizenship and I will bet no one here has proof that he's not. So we set around making claims about things we've heard but nobody can prove the other right or wrong. Stalemate for now. I kind of like the question about how Hillary would have missed that one but who knows sometimes it the obvious that gets overlooked.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 18:37:18 GMT -5
Don't know about you but on this, I am convinced as much as I was convinced that , lets see, who have I voted for or if not , took over the Presidency even though I was yelling "NOOO, Stop, Rape, Police, MOM, Sacrilidge, The End is Here," ...mmmm, Kennedy,Johnson , {Nixon }, {Ford}, Carter, {Reagan}Bush, Clinton, {Bush} Obama..miss any?...were citizens, from the get go. for those who are continuing this cherade..I could say , "get a life already but realize this is your life. LOL |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 20, 2011 19:19:04 GMT -5
You need a third choice for those of us who want to see legitimate proof before we reach a conclusion. How 'bout a 4th choice too ....common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries. Common sense wins. Common sense also says if there were any doubt of the President's country of birth and citizenship, Congress would have begun formal investigations into this matter more than two years ago. I cannot imagine any serious member of Congress sitting silently by and allowing such a gross violation of our Constitution to occur. |
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 19:40:34 GMT -5
"cannot imagine any serious member" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Glad you put that 'seriouse" in there, however there was the atempted impeachment of Clinton and the "White Water 'investigation, what did that cost.$60 mill, $45, mill $50 mill...what ever lots, and lots and lots of mill.  |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jan 20, 2011 19:45:21 GMT -5
<<< I cannot imagine any serious member of Congress sitting silently by and allowing such a gross violation of our Constitution to occur. >>> ...I can... serious member or not... ...and yes, preemptive research is done on future candidates... but he "looks good" on the obvious cursory checks... ...oh, well... as was said before, we're stalled for now... |
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Post by sanityjones on Jan 20, 2011 20:28:24 GMT -5
common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries.
Hillary was never a serious contender for POTUS. Her role was the same as Theodore Roosevelt's in the 1912 election wherein Woodrow Wilson was elected so that America could be handed over to the Federal Reserve banking cartel. Her role was to siphon votes away from McCain and guarantee an Obama win........much in the same way Taft lost the 1912 election (who incidentally did not support the idea of the Federal Reserve). Obama's sudden rise to stardom parallels that point in history quite eerily. The bankers won another in the election of Obama...........citizen or not.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 20, 2011 20:39:49 GMT -5
common sense says that if he wasn't an American citizen, Hillary would have gotten the proof and buried Obama in the primaries.Hillary was never a serious contender for POTUS. Her role was the same as Theodore Roosevelt's in the 1912 election wherein Woodrow Wilson was elected so that America could be handed over to the Federal Reserve banking cartel. Her role was to siphon votes away from McCain and guarantee an Obama win........much in the same way Taft lost the 1912 election (who incidentally did not support the idea of the Federal Reserve). Obama's sudden rise to stardom parallels that point in history quite eerily. The bankers won another in the election of Obama...........citizen or not. Don't agree there at all, neither would Hillery, her followers and Obama for that matter...she was on a roll and he..he was wondering how do I make this change. |
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 20, 2011 20:48:46 GMT -5
I also don't agree, I think Hillary just thought she would wipe the floor with Obama, you can say what you want about Obama's politics but you a have to at least have a little respect for how a virtual nobody could beat the Clinton machine.
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Post by sanityjones on Jan 20, 2011 20:54:43 GMT -5
Taft, Roosevelt, Wilson, and the voters of that time all believed that they were the masters of their own destiny, much like those of the most recent election. The fact is, however, that Roosevelt was a pawn and the voters were generally ignorant of the schemes of the bankers. Wilson was not POTUS material, which is exactly what the bankers needed, and why they financed the whole operation, not just "their man" Wilson. It's history, I'm not making this shit up. And history is repeating itself as we speak. Hillary may well have thought she was a shoe in........obviously she wasn't and she all but destroyed McCain's chances to win.
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