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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 19, 2011 18:32:58 GMT -5
In a little-noticed floor speech last night (flagged today by ABC News), Democratic Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee invoked Nazis, the Holocaust, Germany’s infamous Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels, and – yes – blood libel in describing how Republicans have characterized the health care law as a “government takeover.” “They say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels," Cohen said. "You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That's the same kind of thing, blood libel. That's the same kind of thing.” Referencing “blood libel” – the anti-Semitic false accusation about which Americans received a history lesson last week – Cohen added: “The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it -- believed it and you have the Holocaust.” Cohen's remarks didn't get picked up until today because they were delivered to a nearly empty House gallery. Members of Congress can give speeches on almost any topic after legislative business is finished for the day. Many members use it as their way to “revise and extend” their remarks with the hope that it will get picked up by their local stations or newspapers. These speeches tend to be given to not only empty press galleries, but empty seats on the floor as well.) The last time a Democratic politician invoked Goebbels to describe a GOP rival (when California gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown drew a parallel between the notorious Nazi politician and Republican Meg Whitman), First Read coined its own theory of what bringing up the Nazi party does to political discourse. Here’s what we wrote then: You’ve heard of Godwin’s Law -- in an online argument, the person who brings up the Nazis or a Nazi comparison automatically effectively ends (and loses) the arguments. Well, here’s First Read’s Law -- bringing up the Nazis in American politics never does anyone any good. And guess what: The first one to bring it up always sees it boomerang firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/19/5878241-house-dem-compares-gop-health-care-case-to-nazi-propaganda |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 19:05:58 GMT -5
And here it is from the asses, whoops, I mean horse's mouth:
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Post by ed1066 on Jan 19, 2011 19:14:19 GMT -5
Ha ha! Yes, isn't it interesting how egregious examples of Democrats acting badly is always "little-noticed"?
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Post by b2r on Jan 19, 2011 19:33:45 GMT -5
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Repealing Health Care Is "Unconstitutional"
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 19:33:54 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 19, 2011 19:40:19 GMT -5
Ha ha! Yes, isn't it interesting how egregious examples of Democrats acting badly is always "little-noticed"?
It is getting noticed tonight and Steve Cohen is enjoying his time in the limelight and refuses to apologize for his comments about the Nazis
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 21:32:13 GMT -5
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 19, 2011 21:54:24 GMT -5
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Repealing Health Care Is "Unconstitutional" wow, just... wow. |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 22:00:58 GMT -5
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Repealing Health Care Is "Unconstitutional" wow, just... wow. That is some interesting "logic" offered there. |
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 19, 2011 22:03:27 GMT -5
That is some interesting "logic" offered there. Sorry, i couldn't offer more, but Sheila Jackson Lee is so stupid I couldn't think of anything to add. |
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 19, 2011 22:05:46 GMT -5
That is some interesting "logic" offered there.   |
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 19, 2011 22:09:01 GMT -5
That is some interesting "logic" offered there. Sorry, i couldn't offer more, but Sheila Jackson Lee is so stupid I couldn't think of anything to add. Did I mislead? I was talking about her "logic". I thought your comment was spot on. |
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 19, 2011 23:06:27 GMT -5
I've only been working on half a cylinder since watching so many Constitutional Scholars.
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Post by lakhota on Jan 20, 2011 19:35:25 GMT -5
Fox's Kelly Absurdly Claims Fox Personalities Do Not Invoke NazisFox News anchor Megyn Kelly responded to her guest's statement that Fox News figures regularly invoke Nazi imagery by claiming "I watch our programming every night and you're wrong." In fact, several Fox News, particularly Glenn Beck, have a long history of smearing President Obama, Democrats, and progressive figures by invoking Nazi and Holocaust imagery. DETAILS: mediamatters.org/research/201101200037
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 20, 2011 19:38:52 GMT -5
"Well, they do it" is not an acceptable excuse.  |
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Post by b2r on Jan 20, 2011 19:56:15 GMT -5
Rep. Cohen Doubles Down on Stupid
"I won't say it again, but I was right"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 21:21:08 GMT -5
Fox's Kelly Absurdly Claims Fox Personalities Do Not Invoke NazisFox News anchor Megyn Kelly responded to her guest's statement that Fox News figures regularly invoke Nazi imagery by claiming "I watch our programming every night and you're wrong." In fact, several Fox News, particularly Glenn Beck, have a long history of smearing President Obama, Democrats, and progressive figures by invoking Nazi and Holocaust imagery. DETAILS: mediamatters.org/research/201101200037 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 21:28:05 GMT -5
Don't know how to quote another then write. What I wanted to say above is that I read that whole long article, and I basically agree with the speakers. I do not personally talk that way because I am message board and society trained not to--- but, if the shoe fits................
Nor do I THINK along the lines of the things the talkers were comparing to Nazi stuff. because, well-- because of exactly what they said.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 21, 2011 17:06:05 GMT -5
Where is the civility?
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 21, 2011 17:09:11 GMT -5
Little noticed? WTH? This was plastered on HuffPo the day after it happened. Cohen's a dumbass.
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