'Glen Beck' .. Ok, I watched him....

[deziloooooo]

Up late last night, scrolling the channels , so many, top of the hour, came across "Glen Beck", Fox.
As I left on there was a sleight tremor to my place and i swear I hear a moan from the Hi-Def, just a sleight murmur but I swear it resembled, very low but distinct , "Oh nooooooooo"

Hey no one pushes me, even my 46" Hi def so stayed with the channel. poured a short one with a bit of water and settled in.
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A few Obama diss , but acceptable , an he got into his thing of the evening, and it was on the "Peoples Republic", China, state visit by their president.
Didn't get his shtick that the man was coming in a Boeing 747, commercial, but he alone plus entourage, as if it is wrong coming in a expensive plane, mentioned our POTUS , goes there with two of them with USA Presidential, not commercial rented. Was wondering i he expect a 707 with duck tape on the fuselage holding it together..but on I go
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Brought out some very interesting and in my opinion factual fact about the 'Peoples Republic"----------------------

1.3 Billion
800 million work force
Pictures of how many of those workers live, hi rise barrack type living conditions, bunk beds, three hi, 10 per room.{That's 30 strangers to a room. Barracks over their working space, lunch cafeterias, picture of hundred eating in a cafeteria, not was don't take to much rice and leave it , then fined, then a picture of 100's at the work place, doing bench work, pictures of 100's going up down stairs, guess no elevators, am sure there are bathing facilities, shots of clothes drying off the balconies, possible limited laundry, but you get the message.
You take these uneducated from the fields and country side, train them for their work , a week or so, no thinking or ideas, just to do a particular job, sleep, eat, work, back to sleep, eat , work..not a pretty picture as far as life experience, also many suicides from balconies, hiring 2000 social/psychological types to help, a suicide hot line and a sealing off of the balconies..guess they have problems, no s Dick Tracy,,
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Showed picture of "Three Georges " Dam, hydro electric and pictures of many hoovers and Nuc power plants to equal that..to get that point that China needs to give work to these 800 million workers , this is how they are doing it and they are using their wealth, ours and others to by the natural resources of the world for them self's because they are definitely afraid of a uprising and losing their power, communist, the party, if they don't keep these 800 million happy, or if not happy, working, thus many freedoms on some issues compared to the past but absolutely NONE if there is any chance of group unrest threatening the party and advocating or even mentioning change.
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as they consolidate, he also is suggesting that a t some time in the future, they will be coming for the payback of their assets they are holding and if not able to be satisfied then they will do what any creditor who is unfulfilled take over assets of the debtor..
Remember, we have a 14 trillion debt, Peoples Republic have a chunk of that, I think almost 3 trillion of it, give or take a trillion,billions, whatever..but Beck says he has a idea to solve this..
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Thank the lord because I have sipping the short one...getting very upset, believe he's right on, remember middle to the left, open to ideas as uncomfortable as they may be and open to them no matter where they come from, a asset/positive of middle to the lefts by the way, and I was sitting there I was thinking and started to to verbally say to the Hi Def..so what do we do, solutions, enough of the doom and gloom ..what do we do, or is it to late..another big sip and thinking a refill..and the man, MR Beck says I have a solution. and I cry out loudly, I have to say, " YESS..what, tell me please...and as I waited for the answer, he looked me right in the eye as he perched his fat butt on the edge of the chincy desk on the chincy set he uses for the show...he says .., still 15 minutes to the show.....TOMORROW.

That ^%^$%& SON of a &*&^%^&%. I gave him the bird , in fact the whole arm , said a few &^&^% and (*(&^ finished the short one and went to bed at 2:30AM. Never Again Mr beck. ^%^$* You.
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[b2r]

We are an instant gratification society.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 13:56:33 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

So, what time are you tuning in tonight?

wise ass...BUT I am tempted but he's on so late unless it was a rerun..don't tell anyone but may check the schedule, my Comcast box allows me to scroll times and if on a a more decent time..may sneak in there..I was so pissed..LOL ;D

[dancinmama]

MR Beck says I have a solution. and I cry out loudly, I have to say, " YESS..what, tell me please...and as I waited for the answer, he looked me right in the eye as he perched his fat butt on the edge of the chincy desk on the chincy set he uses for the show...he says .., still 15 minutes to the show.....TOMORROW.


And you're angry, why? It seems like you got a lot out of the program. A "cliffhanger" is VERY common on many programs so that you tune in again. Nothing new here.

[Deleted]

See, Dez-- Beck is okay. He gets flashy sometimes, but that is his personality and it brings in the ratings. He's an intelligent man that sometimes says things others don't want to talk about, and he often predicts things only to come back the next year and remind his viewers that he warned them what was going to happen last year. You might want to catch O'Reilly, also. He is different than Beck, and often gets slammed for not being mean enough to Dems and Obama. Heck, Hannity is good, too. Just take the whole bottle next time, Dez, and pull a triple header!!!
See-- you survived a trip to FOX news. LOL!!!

[deziloooooo]

Correct ..but a bit of humor there danc...., lifes to short not to hav it...

[Deleted]

Dez-- I can catch Beck and O'Reilly early or late. Same shows repeated. I like that, because then I can switch to other channels and see what they are saying. CNN is my second choice-- MSNBC I flip past for laughs sometimes, rarely... during commercial breaks on FOX and CNN only.....

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 14:11:04 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

See, Dez-- Beck is okay. He gets flashy sometimes, but that is his personality and it brings in the ratings. He's an intelligent man that sometimes says things others don't want to talk about, and he often predicts things only to come back the next year and remind his viewers that he warned them what was going to happen last year. You might want to catch O'Reilly, also. He is different than Beck, and often gets slammed for not being mean enough to Dems and Obama. Heck, Hannity is good, too. Just take the whole bottle next time, Dez, and pull a triple header!!!
See-- you survived a trip to FOX news. LOL!!!

I have watched O'reilly, even sent him some E mails..Hannity too?? Come on kid , let me get through Beck first...your turn..CNN, Fareed Zakaria on Sunday? Turn about is fair play.
Whole bottle, mmmm not such a bad idea, very good scotch.
Well still breathing, so survival was done though the Hi def is pissed and not talking to me.

[Deleted]

I'm not familiar with all the hosts on CNN. Heck, I don't know the names of half on FOX. I'll try to catch the Fareed person this weekend. I don't watch much TV unless something big is happening, and on Fridays when all the idiots drop their bombs for the weekend hoping no one will notice. WACO was my first big event addiction. Saw that one on CNN, I believe. Gabby was my last, and many in between. I prefer to read books in my down time so I don't go crazy. Although right now I am reading Atlas Shrugged and I have to turn on cable news or hit the boards to calm down!! LOL!!!!!

[deziloooooo]

I can't remember if I ever did reaf "Atlas Shrugged", naturally have heard of it, will google for plot and see if it jogs the memory, from that far back in the day , memory sucks on books read, have read so many, big reader I am, love my library, no more buying books, way to expensive, as I look at my bookcase as I type, love to have the money back but do reread them.
Only one , classic I remember reading a lot, "billy Bud" seems every english class thought that one was worth ecploring and discussing, and discussing, and analizing, and discussing and analizing...enough alread..

By the way, glad to see your having fun here, good show,.

[safeharbor37]

Dezi,
This is from the MSN News page and I think these links will work:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41151260#41151260
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41151260#41154120
These should answer the question you had re: Mr. Beck. There are two different interviewers but they are not duplicates. If you miss the point, just ask and I'll explain.

[Cookies Galore]

Any disdain I had for the man went out the window the other day when he said Philadelphia "sucks" and it's not safe to be around Indepedence Hall after 6 pm. Since he obviously doesn't know jack, I can't be bothered to feel anything anymore!

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 15:17:19 GMT -5 safeharbor37 said:

Dezi,
This is from the MSN News page and I think these links will work:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41151260#41151260
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41151260#41154120
These should answer the question you had re: Mr. Beck. There are two different interviewers but they are not duplicates. If you miss the point, just ask and I'll explain.

Love to watch em but Yoo two and my computer don't get along 85% of the time..stops , starts..stops etc..can't be bothered, I am a reader though and if have anything along those lines I would be interested.

[burnsattornincan]

Pictures of how many of those workers live, hi rise barrack type living conditions, bunk beds, three hi, 10 per room.{That's 30 strangers to a room.

Is this supposed to make us feel sorry for them? Good one.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 17:19:26 GMT -5 burnsattornincan said:

Pictures of how many of those workers live, hi rise barrack type living conditions, bunk beds, three hi, 10 per room.{That's 30 strangers to a room.

Is this supposed to make us feel sorry for them? Good one.

No just a fact of what is reality in some areas of the country. How wide spread it is I have no clue. It could be just one particuler situation that Beck took , milked for all it was worth and made larger then it is or it could be very wide spread and there may be millions living this way. Very 1984 look to it, that old move "Metropolis", silent one, old but a strong movie.

[safeharbor37]

" I am a reader though and if have anything along those lines I would be interested. "
'Fraid not. The reason I cited those sources [not UTube] is that they were interviews [from MSM] where Beck summarized his philosophy [his view of "The Solution"]. The alternative I suppose would be to read his book, but I didn't think you'd go for that .
I'll give you a clue: The solution must come from us, not the government. I still recommend those videos whether you agree with him or not.
FWIW: There is [was] a rule in China that any appartment house of eight stories or more had to have a elevator ~ so you see row after row of seven story apartment houses. It's less expensive. The apartments are preferable to the alternatives in most cases. There simply aren't enough houses for their population.

[Deleted]

Beck brought up something interesting today. He was talking about PC talk, and how it stifles us and shuts down true communication. The example that he gave was that he has a handicapped child, and the use of the word "retard". Although he admitted he does not like the word, he wants to know the people that would use that word, so he can know who to avoid. Example-- if a neighbor makes a comment about "retards" he will then tell his kids to stay away from that person.
I thought about that, and see the truth. If we all tiptoe around on eggshells, how do we know who we want to avoid?? WE DON'T, so we just invent things, slam people, and put words in other people's mouths, without ever knowing how a person really feels, because none of us are allowed to act like bigots, racists, all the things we get accused of being. It makes me think that PC talk creates a situation where anyone could be an enemy where possibly there is no enemy at all. Which is, of course, what Coward/Piven, Alinsky, and that type are all about. Managing people in such a way as to create chaos and division towards an end result of controlling the masses to further their own agendas.
I like that about Beck. He makes me think about interesting things like that.
I would LOVE to know who the real bigots, racists, and plain idiots are.
It is refreshing to have a Beck thread not started by my friend Lakhota.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 19, 2011 22:25:22 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

Beck brought up something interesting today. He was talking about PC talk, and how it stifles us and shuts down true communication. The example that he gave was that he has a handicapped child, and the use of the word "retard". Although he admitted he does not like the word, he wants to know the people that would use that word, so he can know who to avoid. Example-- if a neighbor makes a comment about "retards" he will then tell his kids to stay away from that person.
I thought about that, and see the truth. If we all tiptoe around on eggshells, how do we know who we want to avoid?? WE DON'T, so we just invent things, slam people, and put words in other people's mouths, without ever knowing how a person really feels, because none of us are allowed to act like bigots, racists, all the things we get accused of being. It makes me think that PC talk creates a situation where anyone could be an enemy where possibly there is no enemy at all. Which is, of course, what Coward/Piven, Alinsky, and that type are all about. Managing people in such a way as to create chaos and division towards an end result of controlling the masses to further their own agendas.
I like that about Beck. He makes me think about interesting things like that.
I would LOVE to know who the real bigots, racists, and plain idiots are.
It is refreshing to have a Beck thread not started by my friend Lakhota.

If its the real world, when you interact with some one who you realize you don't really want to interact with you can just leave, walk away, limit contact and in a neighbors situation as he said, shortly who and what they are about will be found out then he can make plans to avoid them except in the least obtusive way, they being neighbors.
In the cyber world...just being respectful and civil , goes a long way toward a good experience. There is also just ignoring , not letting on your there reading and watching,..till a bomb is laid and you can be long gonne before it's realized you were there. Any response, if not read really was no response.
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Regarding:
"LOVE to know who the real bigots, racists, and plain idiots are"
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are you suggesting something?? ,

[Tennesseer]

Example-- if a neighbor makes a comment about "retards" he will then tell his kids to stay away from that person.

Isn't' that censoring and requiring others to be politically correct? While I understand his 22-year-old daughter has cerebral palsy, Beck is censoring what his children can hear plus he wants his neighbor(s) to be politically correct or his children cannot associate with them.

[Deleted]

You entirely missed my point, Tenn. Too bad.
As to your point, I would like to KNOW the people I am dealing with. Would save a lot of hassles up front. We have the freedom to associate with who we choose, vote for who we choose, all of that.
Example-- I knew a guy for about 6 years, saw him on an almost daily basis semi-socially. Finally I went out with him. I thought I knew him pretty well. Within a month or so it became clear to me that he HATES gay people, blacks, Mexicans, Jews. I dumped him, which created issues for me for awhile. Deal is-- I would NEVER have gone out with him if I had known up front what he felt about these things. To make it worse, he KNEW my thoughts on all of that, because I am not very PC.. bare minimum to keep from getting beat up, ya know. His PC public persona never revealed that part of him socially. He has every right to be that way, as I have every right to not hang out with someone so different from myself. Do you see what I am saying? The things we do NOT say could make a difference in our honest relationships with other people. Imagine if all our political candidates weren't PC while campaigning-- maybe then we would not have to watch those You Tube videos that make us cringe. LOL!!!
I'm just thinking. I try to do that every few days.

[safeharbor37]

"Isn't' that censoring and requiring others to be politically correct?"
No. Preventing the writing or reading, or speaking or hearing of something is censorship. Avoiding people of whom you disapprove is not censorship nor is it forcing anyone to do anything.
"While I understand his 22-year-old daughter has cerebral palsy, Beck is censoring what his children can hear plus he wants his neighbor(s) to be politically correct or his children cannot associate with them."
What exactly is wrong with "censoring what his children can hear? Why would you and why would you want your children to associate with those that you think may have negative influence on them? Do parents not have a right [or responsibility] to be sure that their children are not subjected to corrupting influences?
There are many who post on these boards who would do exactly the same thing if a neighbor flagrantly used "the N word" and/or other vile expressions and wouldn't think that censorship nor have any problem with avoiding those who use such expressions. What exactly is the virtue of tolerating boorishness?

[Value Buy]

Congratulations Dezi, on your trip to Fox News.....and surviving it.
Beck will not win you over every night. I admit he comes across way out there sometime

You gotta give O'Reiley and the "No Spin Zone" a chance sometime.
He is really great, even when he is nasty.
I love some of his polls he does, and at the end of his program he always does an "audience response" segment where they e-mail him either with utmost approval or vehement dislike for him. You have to give him credit, he covers both sides of his audience, and usually responds to both sides of the messages. It is similar to the end of Sixty Minutes where they read their very dry audience letters about them.
His letters are much more opiated, and fun.

[Deleted]

Yeah, I'm proud of Dez, and I am going to watch someone I never heard of this Sunday to thank him for being brave enough to watch Beck!! LOL!! (You better remind me, Dez, or I will forget.)

[deziloooooo]

LOL---Ok Krickett..it's a hour, on CNN , 10 AM my time , Eastern Standard time. Repeats 1 Pm same station .

I can give you the link to his web page , there is a place to get the whole transcript to the show so you can read it, they even put in the {cough,cough , sneeze} and if a really hot female guest ..occasionally you get..during the commercial time..the vebal...'oooohhhh Fareeeeeeeed, you really shouldn't..mmmmmm, but okkkk baaabbbbyyy..sssiiiiiigggghhhhhhh}

[Value Buy]

Jan 19, 2011 23:59:21 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

LOL---Ok Krickett..it's a hour, on CNN , 10 AM my time , Eastern Standard time. Repeats 1 Pm same station .

I can give you the link to his web page , there is a place to get the whole transcript to the show so you can read it, they even put in the {cough,cough , sneeze} and if a really hot female guest ..occasionally you get..during the commercial time..the vebal...'oooohhhh Fareeeeeeeed, you really shouldn't..mmmmmm, but okkkk baaabbbbyyy..sssiiiiiigggghhhhhhh}

Yeh, but with a name like Fareed, many on the right have trouble turning him on and listening.
He is a pretty good on air personality

[deziloooooo]

Jan 20, 2011 0:03:38 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 19, 2011 23:59:21 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

LOL---Ok Krickett..it's a hour, on CNN , 10 AM my time , Eastern Standard time. Repeats 1 Pm same station .

I can give you the link to his web page , there is a place to get the whole transcript to the show so you can read it, they even put in the {cough,cough , sneeze} and if a really hot female guest ..occasionally you get..during the commercial time..the vebal...'oooohhhh Fareeeeeeeed, you really shouldn't..mmmmmm, but okkkk baaabbbbyyy..sssiiiiiigggghhhhhhh}

Yeh, but with a name like Fareed, many on the right have trouble turning him on and listening.
He is a pretty good on air personality

LOL, took me a while to remember his full name...on your point, hate to agree but I wouldn't disagree...he is a Indian...was brought up in a secular, semi muslem but think changed that early age but so what or who cared...but your right I am afraid, gives me the shakes in a way.

[stayput]

Jan 19, 2011 22:56:14 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Example-- if a neighbor makes a comment about "retards" he will then tell his kids to stay away from that person.

Isn't' that censoring and requiring others to be politically correct? While I understand his 22-year-old daughter has cerebral palsy, Beck is censoring what his children can hear plus he wants his neighbor(s) to be politically correct or his children cannot associate with them.

This is just stupid. No. Beck clearly stated that he wants "everyone" to have the freedom to speak their minds, so that when he comes across someone that "he" finds offensive, according to what he personally believes, he can protect his children by keeping them from that type of person.

His whole point was that by guaranteeing everyone's freedom of speech, to include all speech that we individually may find derogatory we get to protect our families knowing just what people really think.

If our government is allowed to control speech, I may not know that I am speaking with someone who is of either the Black Panther mentality, or the KKK. I too want to know that I might just be speaking with someone who is truly biased against disabled individuals, or a woman who is misanthropic (man hater). The whole point is that by leaving ALL speech free, only then do we truly know who we are actually dealing with, and more importantly, who our children could be dealing with.

[pappyjohn99]

And one thing you will note about Mr. Beck if you watch even occasionally. When he makes the points he wishes to raise, he states repeatedly- "Don't take my word for it. Do your own homework." He want's you to use your own brain and judge for yourself. A reasonable way to win people to his point of view, IMO.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 20, 2011 3:45:48 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

And one thing you will note about Mr. Beck if you watch even occasionally. When he makes the points he wishes to raise, he states repeatedly- "Don't take my word for it. Do your own homework." He want's you to use your own brain and judge for yourself. A reasonable way to win people to his point of view, IMO.

only saw him once as I said, missed him last night though so will never know his solutions to what to do to solve the problems. Damn. Serial TV not my thing{Sigh}