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Post by traelin0 on Jan 18, 2011 18:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 18, 2011 18:56:33 GMT -5
Ouch! That's gotta hurt! I guess we're all aware these are rough economic times, but to cut the police and fire department staffs is scary stuff. I imagine the people of Camden are pretty darned upset!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 19:22:30 GMT -5
Good luck, Camden. We in Tucson were threatened last year with a "deep" cut, while already understaffed 30% of required for full protection, like your basic response to a burglary, which we no longer get, SO-- we voted for a 1% sales tax, to stop this. Guess what?? A few months later-- same thing, and a request for another tax hike on the state level, and we said no. (They always throw in the teachers, too, to make sure and hit every voter, not just some..) We have a newly elected Republican on the City Council-- first in about a million years ----27 or something like that.... LOL-- he is not popular.. except, of course, to the ones he is popular with!! God bless Camden-- good luck.
So far-- no further cuts to cops and fire or teachers... yet. BUT... but....... I thought they said we HAD to, OR ELSE... LOL-- they did manage to cut some graffiti art programs for inner city kids, that already got busted for graffiti-ing some buildings downtown without permission, stuff like that was cut, and bus fares for the poor were raised a nickel, or something like that, over INCREDIBLE protest. Can't have everything.............
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jan 18, 2011 19:25:10 GMT -5
Yeah, this ain't good. It's been all over the news here this past week and I really can't believe it actually happened. They showed on the news this afternoon all the laid off cops and firefighters, such a shame. Camden is so screwed to begin with...  |
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 18, 2011 19:25:37 GMT -5
The state should take over this city, actually it sounds like it should have a long time ago.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jan 18, 2011 20:12:29 GMT -5
Draconian cuts to social programs is what is needed. Notice govt officials first put the ax on services and protection to the tax payers.
The entire state of NJ has problems. Camden is small potatoes.
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Post by handyman2 on Jan 18, 2011 20:15:41 GMT -5
The state is in as bad shape as Camden. They like California made to many improperly funded contracts. Now the chickens come home to roost. Some blame the new govenor but he did not make the mess. Just hope he has some idea to straighten it out.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jan 18, 2011 20:21:30 GMT -5
It is happening all over. Florida , new Governor, while having promised tax cuts, facing 4 billion deficit now on the budget, just not going to happen at least short term, and with the stimulus funds drying up, doubt you will see more, no one wants then correct?
Expect more of the Camdens happening through out the country. Many of those folks would have been out of work a year ago or so, finally catching up, States and Town, Cities are broke and with the new change in congress doubt you will see more spending.
Sure the new folks in Congress have a explanation why they couldn't help when they go home to campaign, they are hiring their spin doctors as I speak to be able to blame it on the other guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2011 20:21:34 GMT -5
Isn't that Christie's state?? Sorry, do not know how to spell his name. I hear good things about him. Hopefully he can do good things for his state like Gov. Brewer is (trying to do) for AZ. Feds keep messing with her about her policies to save us money and get our state back on track, but she is fighting back. Good luck, NJ. I would hope they did away with all the nonsense before they cut cops and fire. But, from what I saw Brewer try to do, and the result-- I have to wonder if the Feds have them by the short hairs on cuts just like AZ.
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 18, 2011 20:23:49 GMT -5
I'm sure NJ is in bad shape, just like many states, but I'm not sure from the article if the problems with the city is the same kind that the states are having, except for the basics of spending beyond there means.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Jan 18, 2011 22:01:11 GMT -5
It is happening all over.
What is happening? Do you mean all the entitlement programs, corrupt government and unrealistic union demands that you seem to support have bankrupted New Jersey and other states? Have you reconsidered your position?
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2011 9:19:51 GMT -5
Just wait until the states get hit with all the real costs of Obamacare.
You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet folks...
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jan 19, 2011 9:23:18 GMT -5
You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet folks...
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
I met a devil woman
She took my heart away
She said, I've had it comin' to me
But I wanted it that way
I say that any love is good lovin'
So I took what I could get mmh, mmh, mmh
She looked at me with them brown eyes
And said, You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something that you're never gonna forget
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
And you're thinkin' you ain't been around, that's right
And now I'm feelin' better
Cause I found out for sure
She took me to her doctor
And he told me of a cure
He said that any love is good love
So I took what I could get
Yes I took what I could get
And then she looked at me with them big brown eyes
And said, You ain't seen nothin' yet
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something, here's something that you're never gonna forget, baby
B-B-B-Baby, you know, you know, you know, you just ain't seen nothin' yet
You need an education, got to go to school
Any lovin' is good lovin'
So I took what I could get
Yes I took what I could get
And then, and then, and then she looked at me with them big brown eyes
And said, You ain't seen nothin' yet
Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
Here's something, here's something
Here's a lover you're never gonna forget, baby
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain't seen n-n-n-nothin' yet
You ain't been around
You ain't seen nothin' yet, that's what she told me
She said, I need an education, go to school
I know I ain't seen nothin' yet
I know I ain't seen nothin' yet, mmh, mmh, mmh
I got something for you right now
Feels good, alright, how do you do that
But I ain't seen nothin' yet
But I deserve it one of these days
Woohoo, but I ain't seen nothin' yet
I ain't seen nothin' yet
Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah
I ain't seen nothin' yet
I'll wait, I'll wait, I'll wait
If you want to show me what I ain't seen, where I ain't been
Lalalalalala
Owowowowowowo
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 19, 2011 9:33:40 GMT -5
You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet folks...Bachman-Turner Overdrive 1974.....seems like yesterday, eh? The '70's was one of the greatest eras in the music industry IMHO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 12:20:46 GMT -5
I kid about NJ every now & then. The truth is that I have been there 4 or 5 times & never spent more than 2 hours on each visit (just flying thru) so I know very little about it.
I do have a SIL that lives there. From her I know that it's expensive to live there (her house is very expensive compared to where I live), taxes are outrageous, a fair amount of crime, a lot of crime in the state government, & cold in the winter. It just doesn't sound like my idea of a great place to live.
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