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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:05:55 GMT -5
What's not to accept? I didn't say that I thought it was good or bad. Just that it was. Conflict is part of our nature and history. It is not worse or better now than it was five thousand years ago. I blame it all on womens liberation. If women stayed at home and took care of the children, had tea with the neighbors and looked good for daddy when he came home from a hard day at work, the world would be a much kinder place. #thumbs up# |
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Post by PK Bucko on Nov 23, 2011 14:06:27 GMT -5
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Post by PK Bucko on Nov 23, 2011 14:09:53 GMT -5
What?!?!
I'm just pointing out that horrible conflicts have been around forever. Recorded history shows us that (unless you believe the alien theory) the ancient Egyptians greased the wheels of constructing the pyramids with the blood of slaves. They just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle reporting on every atrocity that was committed.
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Post by diamonds on Nov 23, 2011 14:15:06 GMT -5
I worked with a guy who sat directly in front of me. All day long he would not shut up. He was the only one that thought he was funny. On Monday morning the first thing out of his mouth was "did you get any on the weekend"? Ack, then he would say, oh, now you're running off to a meeting and sucking up. Nope. I decided to take some bio-feedback as being exposed to his comments were driving me crazy. It didn't help. He had the problem as he was divorced several times and was just a player and being obnoxious was just an attention getter. Going home and doing my Pilates was the best stess reliever.
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 23, 2011 14:16:10 GMT -5
What?!?! I'm just pointing out that horrible conflicts have been around forever. Recorded history shows us that (unless you believe the alien theory) the ancient Egyptians greased the wheels of constructing the pyramids with the blood of slaves. They just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle reporting on every atrocity that was committed. Just playin'...don't bust a zipper!  |
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Post by PK Bucko on Nov 23, 2011 14:20:13 GMT -5
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Post by diamonds on Nov 23, 2011 14:21:08 GMT -5
>>>>I blame it all on womens liberation.
If women stayed at home and took care of the children, had tea with the neighbors and looked good for daddy when he came home from a hard day at work, the world would be a much kinder place.<<<<<
Really? Well the reality is some women have to work. The Stepford wife thing does not render a woman able to deal with the outside conflicts of the general world.
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Post by dancinmama on Nov 23, 2011 14:21:13 GMT -5
I think that a lot of the "conflict" that we see stems from peoples' feelings of a lack of security in their lives. With what is happening in our country and around the globe today, it seems more pronounced than ever before.
And it's not only a lack of financial security that many are feeling. Many people do not have a very strong social support system causing a strong feeling of personal insecurity. Divorce is so prevalent that kids often do not feel a sense of stability and security from a very young age and spouses don't feel secure in their marriages, etc.
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Post by diamonds on Nov 23, 2011 14:24:31 GMT -5
I think that a lot of the "conflict" that we see stems from peoples' feelings of a lack of security in their lives. With what is happening in our country and around the globe today, it seems more pronounced than ever before. And it's not only a lack of financial security that many are feeling. Many people do not have a very strong social support system causing a strong feeling of personal insecurity. Divorce is so prevalent that kids often do not feel a sense of stability and security from a very young age and spouses don't feel secure in their marriages, etc. ...  I agree... ;D |
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Post by dancinmama on Nov 23, 2011 14:33:58 GMT -5
I blame it all on womens liberation. If women stayed at home and took care of the children, had tea with the neighbors and looked good for daddy when he came home from a hard day at work, the world would be a much kinder place. I can't tell if you were kidding or not, but there is probably a lot more truth in your post than many people want to admit. I'm not blaming women AT ALL. There is no argument, however, that many of the things that "the little woman" used to take care of, now have to be done during what used to be "free time" that families used to spend doing family stuff together. Life has been made a lot more stressful with both spouses trying to work AND raise kids. And contrary to what people might think, dual income families has resulted in less financial security instead of more. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:37:24 GMT -5
I blame it all on womens liberation. If women stayed at home and took care of the children, had tea with the neighbors and looked good for daddy when he came home from a hard day at work, the world would be a much kinder place. I can't tell if you were kidding or not, but there is probably a lot more truth in your post than many people want to admit. I'm not blaming women AT ALL. There is no argument, however, that many of the things that "the little woman" used to take care of, now have to be done during what used to be "free time" that families used to spend doing family stuff together. Life has been made a lot more stressful with both spouses trying to work AND raise kids. And contrary to what people might think, dual income families has resulted in less financial security instead of more. I was being a bit facetious but I realize there is a touch of truth in there somewhere. The breakdown of the family unit etc. I am not sure it is a healthy thing to be so consumer focused. What we need vs what we want has become a very tainted picture of us as a society. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:43:11 GMT -5
I can't tell if you were kidding or not, but there is probably a lot more truth in your post than many people want to admit. I'm not blaming women AT ALL. There is no argument, however, that many of the things that "the little woman" used to take care of, now have to be done during what used to be "free time" that families used to spend doing family stuff together. Life has been made a lot more stressful with both spouses trying to work AND raise kids. And contrary to what people might think, dual income families has resulted in less financial security instead of more. I was being a bit facetious but I realize there is a touch of truth in there somewhere. The breakdown of the family unit etc. I am not sure it is a healthy thing to be so consumer focused. What we need vs what we want has become a very tainted picture of us as a society. Absolutely. The Muslims are right about how they handle this. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:46:34 GMT -5
I was being a bit facetious but I realize there is a touch of truth in there somewhere. The breakdown of the family unit etc. I am not sure it is a healthy thing to be so consumer focused. What we need vs what we want has become a very tainted picture of us as a society. Absolutely. The Muslims are right about how they handle this. The Muslims I know are ominous and comendable consumers. So I'd have to disagree with you on that one.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:47:33 GMT -5
Absolutely. The Muslims are right about how they handle this. The Muslims I know are ominous and comendable consumers. So I'd have to disagree with you on that one. But as a society, they keep their woman home and they are not big consumers of goods. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:53:34 GMT -5
The Muslims I know are ominous and comendable consumers. So I'd have to disagree with you on that one. But as a society, they keep their woman home and they are not big consumers of goods. Good point, yes that is the perfect solution.  I suppose the women never have to wonder what to wear or do their hair and makeup. Heck who needs to work out? Ahhh...the lucky life of a Muslim woman. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:55:08 GMT -5
It will be nice when the Muslims finally take over the US. Hopefully Obama gets another term to help speed that along.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 14:56:45 GMT -5
It will be nice when the Muslims finally take over the US. Hopefully Obama gets another term to help speed that along. He's good that way. |
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Post by dancinmama on Nov 23, 2011 15:02:15 GMT -5
I can't tell if you were kidding or not, but there is probably a lot more truth in your post than many people want to admit. I'm not blaming women AT ALL. There is no argument, however, that many of the things that "the little woman" used to take care of, now have to be done during what used to be "free time" that families used to spend doing family stuff together. Life has been made a lot more stressful with both spouses trying to work AND raise kids. And contrary to what people might think, dual income families has resulted in less financial security instead of more. I was being a bit facetious but I realize there is a touch of truth in there somewhere. The breakdown of the family unit etc. I am not sure it is a healthy thing to be so consumer focused. What we need vs what we want has become a very tainted picture of us as a society. I think that Madison Avenue has done its job very well. They have convinced the masses that they "need" a lot more than they really do and that they can't be truly "happy" without it. If people could spend more time focusing on what is REALLY important - their relationships with the people that they love and who love them (first and foremost, their spouse and their children), they would be A LOT happier. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 15:06:07 GMT -5
I was being a bit facetious but I realize there is a touch of truth in there somewhere. The breakdown of the family unit etc. I am not sure it is a healthy thing to be so consumer focused. What we need vs what we want has become a very tainted picture of us as a society. I think that Madison Avenue has done its job very well. They have convinced the masses that they "need" a lot more than they really do and that they can't be truly "happy" without it. If people could spend more time focusing on what is REALLY important - their relationships with the people that they love and who love them (first and foremost, their spouse and their children), they would be A LOT happier. I agree, completely. Its easy to get caught up in the whirlwind of new and shiny must haves. My 12 year old is upset because he is the only kid in his class that doesn't have a cell phone or an x box. Its not that I can't afford it i just don't see it as necessary. Now the pressure is on me as if I am a mean or bad parent. Gosh, I still take my kids to the library and only let them watch limited tv. I'm the worst parent ever! lol |
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 23, 2011 15:07:43 GMT -5
I think that Madison Avenue has done its job very well. They have convinced the masses that they "need" a lot more than they really do and that they can't be truly "happy" without it. If people could spend more time focusing on what is REALLY important - their relationships with the people that they love and who love them (first and foremost, their spouse and their children), they would be A LOT happier. I agree, completely. Its easy to get caught up in the whirlwind of new and shiny must haves. My 12 year old is upset because he is the only kid in his class that doesn't have a cell phone or an x box. Its not that I can't afford it i just don't see it as necessary. Now the pressure is on me as if I am a mean or bad parent. Gosh, I still take my kids to the library and only let them watch limited tv. I'm the worst parent ever! lol Lol...Joey...I am an adult and I too am a little too fixated on material things. I have decided that isn't the important thing...it's the heart and attitude. I am just blessed to have what I do.  |
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Post by diamonds on Nov 23, 2011 15:25:42 GMT -5
quote author=archiethedragon board=healthyliving thread=17048 post=700690 time=1322078108]It will be nice when the Muslims finally take over the US. Hopefully Obama gets another term to help speed that along.[/quote]  What was his first book called? " Dreams from my Father"...  |
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 23, 2011 15:32:03 GMT -5
Lol...Joey...I am an adult and I too am a little too fixated on material things. I have decided that isn't the important thing...it's the heart and attitude. I am just blessed to have what I do. That and a great pair of high heels! Nothing like a sexy pair of heels, Snerds. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 15:57:50 GMT -5
That and a great pair of high heels! Nothing like a sexy pair of heels, Snerds. I'm pretty sure this is what the Muslim women wear...  |
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 23, 2011 16:06:58 GMT -5
You'd be correct, Joey. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 16:10:51 GMT -5
You'd be correct, Joey. I knew it!! |
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Post by femmefatale on Nov 23, 2011 16:12:30 GMT -5
Those heels are hot! I remember you posting them before.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 16:28:36 GMT -5
Those heels are hot! I remember you posting them before. Yep, they are my faves. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 24, 2011 17:30:58 GMT -5
I have been trying to understand why we here on this planet are being subjected to so much conflict. It seems to be getting worse.
Spouses fighting... friends arguing.... employee/boss conflicts...politics... hard feelings among posters on this board...races.... cultures.... countries at war.... all in conflict.
Where is this negative energy coming from? Why are we not in harmony on this planet?
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We've always had conflict....it's just becoming more and more obvious because there are SO MANY MORE PEOPLE. The world population has doubled in the last 50 or so years, so globally, we're in conflict for space and resources. Locally we're living on top of each other, spending hours in traffic because there are so many cars, desperately looking for parking spaces, waiting in lines, lines, lines, even on the phone.
It's stressful.
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Post by Opti on Nov 25, 2011 10:21:29 GMT -5
The Muslims I know are ominous and comendable consumers. So I'd have to disagree with you on that one. But as a society, they keep their woman home and they are not big consumers of goods. I think depends on the society where the Muslims live. I just worked with an interesting Muslim woman in my last job. Not sure about the consumer goods, but I don't consider working FT staying home. |
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Post by Opti on Nov 25, 2011 10:54:30 GMT -5
What do you define as harmony? Not everyone has to agree with everything i say or do to be in harmony. And, aren't you being disharmonius by not accepting PK's answer? No, I agree, not everyone should agree on everything. That's not what I'm getting at. It's just feels like so many seem to be addicted to the adrenalin rush they are getting out of negative conflict. I know I was. When I think of harmony, I think of everyone being 100% happy with themselves and committed to seeing that everyone feels the same way, regardless of their position in life. I don't know. I'm still working this all out within my self. I believe what you attract to you in life is based on what you believe and feel. It may be since you haven't worked out what you really believe on this you are attracting experiences showing you what you really believe now which includes "There is too much conflict". I don't expect anyone to be 100% happy with themselves and that might be because I believe growth comes from wanting more not being 100% content with where you are. I'm pretty clear that everyone has their own journey and it may not include being 100% happy so trying to get everyone to a goal they may not desire is not my thing. For example look at the some of the conservative talking heads and their listeners. IMHO they spend a good portion of the day deciding what to be upset about now. Some people like you pointed out may be addicted to being in a riled up state. If you truly believe there is less conflict in your life compared to most people's it will become true. If you believe there is more conflict in the world you will attract more conflict in your life to make that belief true. |
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