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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 17:57:18 GMT -5
Can they be equal?
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Post by Apple on Jan 15, 2011 18:00:36 GMT -5
Kinetic--I'm convinced that if "people like us" were in elementary school now that we'd be classified as autistic, Asperger's, etc. Physics is awesome And I love that things are "right" or "wrong" with math and logic and things, even though there are countless ways to go about it. I'd never heard that the processing disorders were related, but I guess it does make sense. I'm ok with it, the world needs special people like us too
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Post by kinetickid on Jan 15, 2011 18:03:55 GMT -5
Kinetic--I'm convinced that if "people like us" were in elementary school now that we'd be classified as autistic, Asperger's, etc. It's so true. A good friend of mine has an autistic daughter; my friend is convinced I'm an autie or aspie, too. The thing is, I'm fairly confident I am. I mean, there are way too many overlapping "symptoms" between myself and the Asperger's diagnosis/high-functioning autism. I guess it's not surprising, in a way. Physics and math is full of undiagnosed auties/aspies.
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Post by Apple on Jan 15, 2011 18:07:22 GMT -5
Kinetic--I'm convinced that if "people like us" were in elementary school now that we'd be classified as autistic, Asperger's, etc. It's so true. A good friend of mine has an autistic daughter; my friend is convinced I'm an autie or aspie, too. The thing is, I'm fairly confident I am. I mean, there are way too many overlapping "symptoms" between myself and the Asperger's diagnosis/high-functioning autism. I guess it's not surprising, in a way. Physics and math is full of undiagnosed auties/aspies. My son has been educationally "diagnosed" as having Asperger's. He's almost just like me, but he does seem to be just a little more "extreme" than I am. I guess I should consider it lucky that I'm that way as well, I can usually explain to his teachers what is going on better than he can, I'm kind of like a "translator" at times. He's very bright, and teachers love him, but he can be hard for "normal" people to understand completely. I can identify with the over lapping symptoms. My son is also big one on sound, it drives him crazy. He does love music though, but he'll get mad if I'm eating or typing while he's trying to practice the piano.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 15, 2011 18:21:34 GMT -5
Visual and touch for sure. I'm a fast learner that way. Like Miss R said - I can read directions until the cows come home and it would take that long or longer for me to comprehend difficult things. Show me or let me do it as you explain and I'll have it down in no time.
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Post by Apple on Jan 15, 2011 18:45:57 GMT -5
How did I know POM would learn by touch
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 15, 2011 18:50:04 GMT -5
How did I know POM would learn by touch LMAO, Apple! <<gropes and touches Apple>>
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Post by Genuine GA Peach on Jan 15, 2011 18:50:27 GMT -5
hey, POM...I've got something to teach you
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 15, 2011 18:51:44 GMT -5
Peachy, How YOU doin'! <<wiggles eyebrows at Peachy and puckers up>>
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Post by Genuine GA Peach on Jan 15, 2011 18:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by rick on Jan 15, 2011 19:28:17 GMT -5
You forgot slow
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Post by Genuine GA Peach on Jan 15, 2011 19:36:47 GMT -5
you know, RJ...slow isn't always a bad thing
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 15, 2011 20:23:53 GMT -5
I need a combination of all of those. I learn best when I can relate new facts to things I already understand. Maybe because I'm an engineer. Of course I can't see most of the basics of my discipline being an electrical engineer. So much is based on theory and math. I can say my experience being a co-op during college, working with engineers and a physicist helped me immensely.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 15, 2011 20:25:05 GMT -5
You forgot slow It's slowly or s l o w l y.
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Post by kinetickid on Jan 15, 2011 22:41:49 GMT -5
Many people tune out auditory directions and lectures because auditory learning has the lowest chance of success. I don't tune out; I just can't understand anything being said. It's as if the lectures in Hungarian or something. My husband is largely auditory learner. He never took notes during lectures and never cracked a book. But he maintained a 4.0 GPA all the way through his PhD (Engineering, Physics, and Applied Mathematics). No "demonstrations" required.
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Post by MN-Investor on Jan 15, 2011 23:03:37 GMT -5
Definitely visual for me. I'm the person who reads the software manual cover to cover. I'll try the things out in order to make sure I understand them, so touch is part of my learning too. Forget auditory. My mind wanders too easily.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 23:42:01 GMT -5
I'm slightly dyslexic My sister is dyslexic. Apple & KK you reminded me of one of my favorite bumper stickes: DYSLEXIC'S OF THE WORLD......UNTIE!
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Post by rovo on Jan 15, 2011 23:58:41 GMT -5
Type of Learner Are You:Auditory,Visual,Touch?
I lean toward taste. You can tell a lot from a little lick.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jan 16, 2011 0:00:39 GMT -5
rovo, LMAO!!!
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 16, 2011 7:58:40 GMT -5
This has been really interesting to me. I am trying to train someone to do the same job as me. It has been really frustrating for me because she just doesn't seem to pick up on things quickly. I have tried a lot of different things - I have sent written instructions via email and although I make them really detailed, she just doesn't seem to understand. I have talked her through things and she seems to "get" that a little better, but if I am not sitting their explaining then she just isn't able to do it on her own. I have sat down at the desk and did a task and then let her do it for her store on the computer on her own. We tried that last month and hopefully that will sink in a little more. I don't know. I keep thinking maybe it is me and I am just not a good teacher but I have taught things to others before and it hasn't been this bad. I don't want to give up on her but it is very frustrating to me. Suggestions anyone? I also have dyslexia really bad. When I was little I used to write letters like s, c, d, b, etc. backwards. I still really have to think about the B and D when I am writing. Other than that, the only time it is terrible is when I am tired. Math was a little bit of a struggle because I knew the answer but didn't always write it correctly. But I loved math and overcame it to become an accountant. I just know my limitations and how to check my work to make sure it isn't wrong. And I don't work past the point of being tired simply because it is counterproductive
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Post by jitterbug on Jan 16, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -5
I'm definitely a hands-on learner and NOT an auditory learner. I have learned, however, that I can listen better if I take notes or even doodle when someone is talking. There's something about not actually WATCHING them talk that allows me to hear what they're saying better. We have a monthly meeting where I work and I had one guy fooled because he thought I was taking lots and lots of notes at every meeting - until he sat beside me one month and realized that I was just doodling all over my agenda! But it works for me.
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Post by kinetickid on Jan 17, 2011 4:04:40 GMT -5
This has been really interesting to me. I am trying to train someone to do the same job as me. It has been really frustrating for me because she just doesn't seem to pick up on things quickly. I have tried a lot of different things - I have sent written instructions via email and although I make them really detailed, she just doesn't seem to understand. I have talked her through things and she seems to "get" that a little better, but if I am not sitting their explaining then she just isn't able to do it on her own. I have sat down at the desk and did a task and then let her do it for her store on the computer on her own. We tried that last month and hopefully that will sink in a little more. I don't know. I keep thinking maybe it is me and I am just not a good teacher but I have taught things to others before and it hasn't been this bad. I don't want to give up on her but it is very frustrating to me. Suggestions anyone? I also have dyslexia really bad. When I was little I used to write letters like s, c, d, b, etc. backwards. I still really have to think about the B and D when I am writing. Other than that, the only time it is terrible is when I am tired. Math was a little bit of a struggle because I knew the answer but didn't always write it correctly. But I loved math and overcame it to become an accountant. I just know my limitations and how to check my work to make sure it isn't wrong. And I don't work past the point of being tired simply because it is counterproductive Does the trainee take a lot of notes? Especially in accounting when there could be a week, a month, three months, or even a year that goes by before the task is repeated--enough time to forget everything you learned--notes are critical, I found. Anytime I started a new accounting job, I took maticulous notes and stored them neatly in a 3-ring binder, keeping it within arm's reach of me. In fact, when I left one place of employment--when we moved to California--the accounting supervisor was so impressed with my binder that he asked to use it as a training manual!
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Post by efco on Jan 17, 2011 8:23:33 GMT -5
Everything I learned in life was from Warner Brothers, so I'd say visual for me.
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 17, 2011 9:37:58 GMT -5
This has been really interesting to me. I am trying to train someone to do the same job as me. It has been really frustrating for me because she just doesn't seem to pick up on things quickly. I have tried a lot of different things - I have sent written instructions via email and although I make them really detailed, she just doesn't seem to understand. I have talked her through things and she seems to "get" that a little better, but if I am not sitting their explaining then she just isn't able to do it on her own. I have sat down at the desk and did a task and then let her do it for her store on the computer on her own. We tried that last month and hopefully that will sink in a little more. I don't know. I keep thinking maybe it is me and I am just not a good teacher but I have taught things to others before and it hasn't been this bad. I don't want to give up on her but it is very frustrating to me. Suggestions anyone? I also have dyslexia really bad. When I was little I used to write letters like s, c, d, b, etc. backwards. I still really have to think about the B and D when I am writing. Other than that, the only time it is terrible is when I am tired. Math was a little bit of a struggle because I knew the answer but didn't always write it correctly. But I loved math and overcame it to become an accountant. I just know my limitations and how to check my work to make sure it isn't wrong. And I don't work past the point of being tired simply because it is counterproductive Does the trainee take a lot of notes? Especially in accounting when there could be a week, a month, three months, or even a year that goes by before the task is repeated--enough time to forget everything you learned--notes are critical, I found. Anytime I started a new accounting job, I took maticulous notes and stored them neatly in a 3-ring binder, keeping it within arm's reach of me. In fact, when I left one place of employment--when we moved to California--the accounting supervisor was so impressed with my binder that he asked to use it as a training manual! She does take a lot of notes but when I ask her to go back to her notes she can never find them!!!! I have tried making notes for her too. I told her the next time we get together to do month end be prepared because I am going to tell her to look back at her notes and figure it out!!!! Most of what I am showing her is done on a monthly basis. Thanks K
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Jan 17, 2011 12:46:11 GMT -5
kinetickid: Thanks for the body language of auditory and visual. I need all of them with pen/paper memory.
From a medication I am taking, I have developed some unusually odd behavior and I don't know it until someone interrupts it. I also cannot answer a question without explanation. Most recent was How many GKs are coming of college age that I would like to help? My answer, that depends with eyes rolling, head nodding and turning.
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Post by ysi on Jan 17, 2011 13:04:23 GMT -5
Visual-I could always cram for tests quite successfully just with the written material-often didn't even attend class. When I was in 4th grade the teacher didn't believe I had already read the material and made me sit with paper and pencil and recreate the story, which I then did.
When I was in junior high they sent us to a class where we were either being taught or tested on memory, I was never quite sure-it seemed like only the advanced kids were in the class. Quite a few memory tests and games-it was fun.
Now that I am old, I miss my dead brain cells-it goes quickly :-)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 17, 2011 17:30:58 GMT -5
Primarily auditory, but I do pretty well with kinesthetic, too.
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