Obama is a Rotten President

[Deleted]

As usual, I will say that I like Sarah Palin, and, no, I do not expect her to be president. She's doing just fine representing conservative values right where she is.
As for Obama, he is walking a tightrope now. Trying to win back the middle of the road voters without alienating the true lefties, a lot of them angry because they did not get their pony. I, also, do not look forward to another Obama campaign while the country sits unguarded.... but, as someone else said-- maybe that is for the best.
Conservative leaders have a lot of work ahead to live up to the promises that got them elected. We'll see, but I am not going to go nuts about it like the last time around, 2008, because I believe also, as someone else already said, that the POTUS, ANY POTUS, is just a figurehead. The real powers do not run for office. That's just the way it is.

[rockon]

Krickett, Not sure about your "ANY POTUS, is just a figurehead" comment. From what I remember George Bush was solely responsible for everything that happened the last 8 years according to most liberals....

[Deleted]

Yeah-- that BUSH!!!! Darn him!!! A lot of POWER behind that man everyone called so stupid. Wait-- isn't that contradictory?? LOL!!
I will consult my Bilderberg manual and find out who is most likely to be chosen this time around.
Must be about time for a figurehead woman, huh?? Could be the plan all along was for Obama to make a sweep in 4 years, push as hard and fast as he could, then someone else can sneak in and continue the same old policies after hypnotizing the masses with some catchy slogan.... We'll see.
(wink)

[ugonow]

I voted republican,because I am. Having said that,I have to agree with Glenn Beck,and other conservative representatives of the media. McCain/Palin would have been worse. I know I will be jumped on for it,but there it is,the ugly truth.

[rockon]

Not sure about worse but mostly likely not much better. Probably depends on which area your talking about. The better alternative might be to support someone without affiliation with either of the two major parties that equate to organized crime.

[Deleted]

Question-- do you guys believe a third party would not be corrupted by the slime pit in Washington?? I'd like to believe that, but I am not sure. We could at least try it, I guess. But I think we are far away from that, although we do have some people elected that are not really either party, it seems, and they do that to hope to get elected. Do they then hold their ideals, or do they fall right in the party hole of thought?? I don't know.

[privateinvestor]

CHENEY ON PRESIDENT OBAMA:

JAMIE GANGEL:

You said that you thought that President Obama was going to be a one term President. Do you still?

DICK CHENEY:

I do.

JAMIE GANGEL:

Because?

DICK CHENEY:

Well, because I think he embarked upon a course of action when he became President that did not have as much support as he thought it did. That once he got into the business, for example, of the healthcare reform. I think he's enacted a program that a great many people are very worried about. And that there's a lot of support out there for the effort to repeal that healthcare package.

I think his overall approach to expanding the size of government, expanding the deficit, and giving more and more authority and power to the government over the private sector is a lack of-- sort of a feel for the role of the private sector in-- in creating jobs, in creating wealth and getting our economy back on track. Those are all weaknesses, as I look at Barack Obama. And I think he'll be a one term President.

JAMIE GANGEL:

He's recently rebounded in the polls a little bit. Do you think he's gotten more in tune with some of these things?

DICK CHENEY:

Well, I think perhaps he learned a lesson or two in the off term elections, the off year elections. The Democrats suffered major defeats. The Republican victory in the House was one of the most momentous changes, if you go back and look at our history, that we've ever had in terms of the number of seats captured.



www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/17/dick-cheney-nbc-interview-today-jamie-gangel_n_810032.html

[mmhmm]

Personally, krickitt, I don't believe the creation of a third party is going to eliminate the greed that brings all parties to their knees. Once elected, it appears, the importance lies in how quickly and efficiently said elected official can paper his pockets to the point where he/she needs new pockets to accomodate the overflow.

[rockon]

I also don't believe the creation of a third party would change politics by itself and would almost certainly become corrupt overtime due of course to the inherent greed that we all are born with. But having said that we must try to break the strangle hold our two parties have on the influence in this country right now. They are paid pawns to the special interests not only in this country but internationally as well. The only way to change status quo is by putting their positions in jeopardy and demanding accountability. If we don't things will escalate until there is a revolt again and I don't think thats the best plan.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 18, 2011 9:29:27 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

As usual, I will say that I like Sarah Palin, and, no, I do not expect her to be president. She's doing just fine representing conservative values right where she is.
As for Obama, he is walking a tightrope now. Trying to win back the middle of the road voters without alienating the true lefties, a lot of them angry because they did not get their pony. I, also, do not look forward to another Obama campaign while the country sits unguarded.... but, as someone else said-- maybe that is for the best.
Conservative leaders have a lot of work ahead to live up to the promises that got them elected. We'll see, but I am not going to go nuts about it like the last time around, 2008, because I believe also, as someone else already said, that the POTUS, ANY POTUS, is just a figurehead. The real powers do not run for office. That's just the way it is.

Well thought out post Krickett, you make some good points, especially the power that many have who we never hear about. I question the "figurehead " part but that's because I'm middle to the left, but good post.

[Deleted]

Obama is merely the puppet the bankers and globalist want him to be.

I would have to disagree with that statement. In general bankers do not get behind any socialist movement (& I believe that President Obama is a socialist but without using the socialist name. After all what else is wealth distribution).

I have to agree with another post (& it really really makes me sick at my stomach to say this) in that I too would rather have President Jimmy Carter.

As for the Palin / President Obama comparison, I don't believe that either of them have the knowledge or skills to be president. If it were a choice between the 2 (& someone held a gun on me making me vote for one or the other) I would have to vote for Palin because I think she is less dangerous.

Actually thinking about it I would really rather vote for Larry the cable guy than either of them. At least he sometimes makes me laugh (rather than cry).

[fairlycrazy23]

I don't think Obama is a good President, I obviously don't agree with his politcis but I'm not really talking about that, I just don't think he has been an effective executive. Which I guess on one hand is good for me, because even with both houses he still couldn't get all his agenda through, but bad in that I think foreign leaders also think he is a poor executive.

[deziloooooo]

All have their opinions and I have mine. With what he was faced with and not going to list them, all know even if many won't recognize that they were there and big ones, in a bit over two years he has accomplished wonders.
Mistakes along the way? I don't remember any where in his campaign speeches he claimed or alluded to the fact that he could walk on water, had the power to part seas or feed the multiples with three loaves of bread.

He has done extremely well, glad he's there and very happy he will have at least another two years to do his thing. After that, what ever happens, happens, our way of doing things and no no "guns and ammo ", that's for the sick and small minded.

I listen to the XM radio channel a lot when on the computer. Yesterday since martin Luther king day, they had Don Newcomb , the old Brooklyn Dodger pitcher, one of the few of that great team still with us, a executive with the Dodgers for yeas, a self confessed Alcoholic, which cost him many good years of playing time, but a very articulate manand a great supporter of the president, naturally.

He said that he knows there are so many in the country who are not happy that a man of color is President of the united States and that is one, not all of course, but one of the reasons for some to feel negatively against the man.

Not to belabor the point , make a big deal about it, say that's the reason for all the verbal thrown at him, but Newcome is correct, it's true, and to not acknowledge it is just kidding one self. nough said.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

...I also reluctantly voted Republican in 2008... because I did not want or like:
A: the healthcare "reform" we ended up getting...
B: the continuation and expansion of No Child Left Behind and federal (or feral) mandates on Education...
C: his becoming our Commander in Chief...
D: that he (curiously) let his law license lapse...
E: that he (curiously) kept silent on his birth cert. issue...
...those things alone were enough "sniff testers" for me, but then when considering his fiscal leanings, the whole Joe the Plumber exchange, his hop/skip/jump right into campaigning after landing another job to "serve his constituency," etc. etc.... well, I thought he'd be a rotten choice for POTUS...

[Deleted]

He had NO executive experience in the top executive position. Scares me a little (lot).

[deziloooooo]

Jan 18, 2011 13:55:51 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

He had NO executive experience in the top executive position. Scares me a little (lot).

well you have to admit, he sure has it now , unless you think two plus years isn't enough experience?

[Deleted]

He said that he knows there are so many in the country who are not happy that a man of color is President of the united States and that is one, not all of course, but one of the reasons for some to feel negatively against the man.

True Deziloooooo. As for me I really could care less what color the President is (but I do know some people that color was the first thing they objected to). My problem is that I don't believe in the form of government that goes with social welfare programs. It's not a new belief with me though, I also don't like SS (even though I'm going to get it soon).

[fairlycrazy23]

Jan 18, 2011 14:00:03 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Jan 18, 2011 13:55:51 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

He had NO executive experience in the top executive position. Scares me a little (lot).

well you have to admit, he sure has it now , unless you think two plus years isn't enough experience?

Sounds kinda like the old saying practice makes perfect, but practice makes permanent not perfect.

[texasredneck]

Was not the least bit reluctant to vote Republican, last election and look forward to the next.

Obama should be flattered to be called ROTTEN. I have a much lower opinion of him.

[fairlycrazy23]

Well, this looks like maybe, just maybe a step in the right direction:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703396604576088272112103698.html?mod=rss_opinion_main


I would actually hope he would go further and push a lot regulations back down on to the states to decide. Pollution is an area that feds should be in because it can easily spread from one state to another, but should be reasonable laws.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 18, 2011 14:04:42 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

He said that he knows there are so many in the country who are not happy that a man of color is President of the united States and that is one, not all of course, but one of the reasons for some to feel negatively against the man.

True Deziloooooo. As for me I really could care less what color the President is (but I do know some people that color was the first thing they objected to). My problem is that I don't believe in the form of government that goes with social welfare programs. It's not a new belief with me though, I also don't like SS (even though I'm going to get it soon).

Good response , and the other is a fact , not worth arguing about it , unless the usual , "Oh , the old race card is being played", which it isn't, just the way of the world, and once you start receiving it, SS check, just bitch about it but cash the check, and if I catch you smiling, I wont zing you for that.

[ugonow]

Was not the least bit reluctant to vote Republican, last election and look forward to the next.

Obama should be flattered to be called ROTTEN. I have a much lower opinion of him.

You do realize the republican candidates proposed closing gitmo and sending them to Levenworth Kansas,and they had a homeowner bailout proposal much bigger than Obamas, Pushed for tarp much more than Obama,and highly defended it afterwords,wanted to end all tax incentives for employers that offer healthcare benefits,tax all employee healthcare benefits as income,and give a small tax credit to buy your own? Palin even advocated a windfall tax based on oil prices on oil companies to be redistributed to citizens in the form of a yearly check like she implemented in Alaska

[rockon]

Doesn't really matter to me whether I like some one personally or not (Obama would be somewhat neutral for me) what I don't like are his actions (doesn't matter if they are his fault or not) he ran for the office, won the position and has made constant mistakes ever since. Also him and his party were somewhat responsible for the condition our country was in when he got there. He was in the congress that was in power when much of this stuff went south and both of these parties have been choosing this road for several decades. I wouldn't chose Palin as my President (even though I think she's nice) but I sure wouldn't suggest more Obama either.

[deziloooooo]

Jan 18, 2011 14:22:45 GMT -5 ugonow said:

Was not the least bit reluctant to vote Republican, last election and look forward to the next.

Obama should be flattered to be called ROTTEN. I have a much lower opinion of him.

You do realize the republican candidates proposed closing gitmo and sending them to Leavenworth Kansas,and they had a homeowner bailout proposal much bigger than Obamas, Pushed for tarp much more than Obama,and highly defended it afterwords,wanted to end all tax incentives for employers that offer health care benefits,tax all employee health care benefits as income,and give a small tax credit to buy your own? Palin even advocated a windfall tax based on oil prices on oil companies to be redistributed to citizens in the form of a yearly check like she implemented in Alaska

All that may be true, but the fact is, they do not like the man.

They listen to people who do not like the man or at least say they don't, {I wonder their true feelings, that weekly paycheck for saying what they say is a tough one to lose you know} and to step back and do a balancing act of what he has and has not accomplished and others would do differently if in the same position, and cut any slack as to what he was faced with so actions had to be attempted to try and mitigate the problems, that takes thought , time, balancing of, and honest appraising..so much easier .


" Obama is a rotten President. Why?...because I said so "

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

<<< All that may be true, but the fact is, they do not like the man.

They listen to people who do not like the man or at least say they don't, {I wonder their true feelings, that weekly paycheck for saying what they say is a tough one to lose you know} and to step back and do a balancing act of what he has and has not accomplished and others would do differently if in the same position, and cut any slack as to what he was faced with so actions had to be attempted to try and mitigate the problems, that takes thought, time, balancing of, and honest appraising..so much easier.

" __BUSH__ is a rotten President. Why?...because I said so " >>>

...creative license mine...

[billisonboard]

" Obama is a rotten President. Why?...because I said so "

Remember that this is actually a EE thread that was "dragon"ed to the politics forum.

[deziloooooo]

Was that your's ..I usually use to indicate post of ignorance..."Obama sucks..why?..Because I said so "
but here felt stay with the theme of the title.

If I inadvertently stole it from you, I apologize, was not aware, could have gone with mine. If you want , will be glad to edit?

[rockon]

would still like to know what snicklefritz means?

[deziloooooo]

Well actually the thread has progressed fairly well actually, some good civil back and forth with even some civality thrown in along the way, not bad for these things as they go.

[texasredneck]

The last election I spoke of was the mid term elections and the Republicans I voted for were endorsed by the TEA PARTY.

What ever one must accept is that in the long run you can spend only what you make or can take from others in the form of fees and taxes.

We need some tough love and some candidates that will tell us truthfully which policy they will follow. More taxes or less spending and allow the voters to make a clear choice.