Uganda the next Vietnam?

[Value Buy]

Oct 15, 2011 12:27:21 GMT -5 SweetVirginia said:

I am astounded at this anti war sentiment coming out of the right. Where the heck was it when Bush was war mongering on a giant scale? It is so profoundly obvious that this is simply an anti Obama reaction.

By the way, I was against the war in Iraq, I am against our involvement in Libya and I am against any involvement in Africa as long as we have so many troops currently deployed in other wars and have so many people unemployed.

Sweet, this is not an anti-Obama reaction. We all know Iraq was probably a mistake, but the country at the time, backed Bush on that war. No one had a real problem with entering Afghanistan other than Quakers and pacifists.
This country is economically crippled right now. Whether it is Bush's fault, or Democrats in Congress thru forced mortgages to the poor, etc, is no longer an issue. We have to turn the country around. Right now Obama seems to have forgotten this. He seems to have this grand scheme, to protect the world from all comers. I believe he is doing this because he is trying to deflect attention away from his failed economic policies here at home.
If you honestly believe 100 troops in three countries can make a difference, I think you are fooling yourself. This is only the start. Soon a thousand, then ten thousand, etc.
A Vietnam quagmire where our troops will have their right hand tied behind their back, so they could not do the job they are sent there to do anyway.
I do not know if he is doing this because he does not have a clue how to fix our economic fiasco, but he seems to be busy attacking everyone, everywhere.

[Value Buy]

Oct 15, 2011 11:55:27 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 15, 2011 11:21:06 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Now, answer my proposition.
Could this grow into another Vietnam?
Remember, Vietnam started out with a few "advisors".

What are you proposing?

If you meant 'question' instead of 'proposition' then no, it will not be another Vietnam. African Union troops can handle this long term.

Isn't that what Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and their General(s) in charge, said about the South Vietnamese army?
African Union troops are weaker than the guerrillas, militarily speaking.

[henryclay]

As I recall African history, this one goes at least as far back, and probably even further, as the 1940's when the Mau Mau were wearing full leopard skin capes and claws to terriorize "European Colonialists", who were primarily Christians.

And these "advisors" are deploying to any or all of several "friendly host nations".

I agree with a lot of the above posts. We could use those 100 troops on our southern border.

"These forces will act as advisers to partner forces that have the goal of removing from the battlefield Joseph Kony and other senior leadership of the LRA," [Obama] wrote in a letter submitted to the Congressional leadership and released by the White House.

"Subject to approval of each respective host nation, elements of these U.S. forces will deploy into Uganda, South Sudan, the Central African Republic (CAR) and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC)," according to the letter, which noted that an initial team was deployed to Uganda Wednesday.

"(A)lthough the U.S. forces are combat equipped," it stressed, "they will only be providing information, advice, and assistance to partner nation forces, and they will not themselves engage LRA forces unless necessary for their self-defense."

The announcement was hailed by some human rights groups that have lobbied for a greater U.S. role against the LRA, whose leader, Kony, and four other commanders were indicted by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity in 2005.

Time frame of this link's posting: 6AM EST Today, 10/15/11

ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=105474

[SweetVirginia]

Oct 15, 2011 13:41:47 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

Sweet, I wasn't too happy with Bush spending my entitlements either.

Sorry to hear that. At this point in my life, I am not enjoying any entitlements.

[SweetVirginia]

Oct 15, 2011 17:20:17 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Oct 15, 2011 12:27:21 GMT -5 SweetVirginia said:

I am astounded at this anti war sentiment coming out of the right. Where the heck was it when Bush was war mongering on a giant scale? It is so profoundly obvious that this is simply an anti Obama reaction.

By the way, I was against the war in Iraq, I am against our involvement in Libya and I am against any involvement in Africa as long as we have so many troops currently deployed in other wars and have so many people unemployed.

Sweet, this is not an anti-Obama reaction. We all know Iraq was probably a mistake, but the country at the time, backed Bush on that war. No one had a real problem with entering Afghanistan other than Quakers and pacifists.
This country is economically crippled right now. Whether it is Bush's fault, or Democrats in Congress thru forced mortgages to the poor, etc, is no longer an issue. We have to turn the country around. Right now Obama seems to have forgotten this. He seems to have this grand scheme, to protect the world from all comers. I believe he is doing this because he is trying to deflect attention away from his failed economic policies here at home.
If you honestly believe 100 troops in three countries can make a difference, I think you are fooling yourself. This is only the start. Soon a thousand, then ten thousand, etc.
A Vietnam quagmire where our troops will have their right hand tied behind their back, so they could not do the job they are sent there to do anyway.
I do not know if he is doing this because he does not have a clue how to fix our economic fiasco, but he seems to be busy attacking everyone, everywhere.

The country backed the Iraq war at the time only because of fear mongering and lies. I agree with you that 100 troops could likely turn into thousands of troops, I also agree that it is wrong send our troops to yet another foreign conflict.

The country is in economic chaos because of 30 years of bad economic policy and greed. We must all recognize this or else our country is doomed.

And part of this is just anti Obama sentiment. If a Republican President had sent 100 troops to Africa, righties such as Rush Limbaugh, would not be protesting as much, in fact they might be in support. That is my opinion, but I think I might be right.

[Phoenix84]

SweetVirginia & Value Buy,

You both need to take a chill pill. The U.S has been involved in many many operations like this in the past several decades. Most of those (except Viatnam) didn't blow up into a viatnam. The sky's not falling, the country isn't doomed, and you just need to relax. Go outside and enjoy the sunshine

[SweetVirginia]

Oct 16, 2011 2:36:17 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

SweetVirginia & Value Buy,

You both need to take a chill pill. The U.S has been involved in many many operations like this in the past several decades. Most of those (except Viatnam) didn't blow up into a viatnam. The sky's not falling, the country isn't doomed, and you just need to relax. Go outside and enjoy the sunshine

Phoenix84. It is Vietnam. I honestly know that the sky is not falling. I live in So Cal and I was out walking today so I really did enjoy the sunshine.

[reformeddaytrader]

Uganda the next Vietnam?

No and who can explain why Obama sent 100 Special Forces Troops into Uganda??

[henryclay]

Oct 16, 2011 7:34:30 GMT -5 @reformeddaytrader said:

Uganda the next Vietnam?

No and who can explain why Obama sent 100 Special Forces Troops into Uganda??

Maybe this will explain it trader,

After President Barack Obama announced earlier this week that he would be sending American troops into Uganda, WND uncovered billionaire activist George Soros' ties both to the political pressure behind the decision and to the African nation's fledgling oil industry.

Soros sits on the executive board of an influential "crisis management organization" that recently recommended the U.S. deploy a special advisory military team to Uganda to help with operations and run an intelligence platform, a recommendation Obama's action seems to fulfill.

The president emeritus of that organization, the International Crisis Group, is also the principal author of "Responsibility to Protect," the military doctrine used by Obama to justify the U.S.-led NATO campaign in Libya.

Soros' own Open Society Institute is one of only three nongovernmental funders of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect, a doctrine that has been cited many times by activists urging intervention in Uganda.

Authors and advisers of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, including a center founded and led by Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, also helped to found the International Criminal Court.

Several of the doctrine's main founders also sit on boards with Soros, who is a major proponent of the doctrine.

Unmask the powers behind Obama's curtain with Aaron Klein's "The Manchurian President," autographed at WND's Superstore!

Soros also maintains close ties to oil interests in Uganda. His organizations have been leading efforts purportedly to facilitate more transparency in Uganda's oil industry, which is being tightly controlled by the country's leadership.

www.wnd.com/?pageId=356321

[ungenteel]

<<In May 2009, U.S. President Obama signed into law the Lord's Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act,[47] legislation aimed at stopping Joseph Kony and the LRA. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate on March 11, 2010 with 65 Senators as cosponsors, then passed unanimously in the House of Representatives on May 13, 2010 with 202 Representatives as cosponsors. On November 24, President Obama delivered the strategy to disarm Joseph Kony and the LRA.>>

Passed unanimously by both the House and the Senate ... maybe this is why if you need to ask

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

makes far more sense than killing Cuban engineers building an airfield

[cereb]

Maybe this will explain it trader,"

World nut daily???

[cereb]

"Unmask the powers behind Obama's curtain with Aaron Klein's "The Manchurian President," autographed at WND's Superstore! "



LOL!!!

[djAdvocate]

Oct 16, 2011 19:21:33 GMT -5 cereb said:

"Unmask the powers behind Obama's curtain with Aaron Klein's "The Manchurian President," autographed at WND's Superstore! "



LOL!!!

the Onion doesn't even bother parodying WND.

[workpublic]

give me the 40 mill they already threw down the rat hole and I'll take 200 friends and family over there and kill him.