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Post by femmefatale on Oct 23, 2011 20:31:35 GMT -5
God Blesses me daily, continuously. Your God should bless you with more tolerance and an open mind. I was offended that you chose to laugh at my beliefs. I didn't scoff at yours. Once again, I misunderstood your first post. I wasn't laughing at your beliefs. You guys can have this thread. I won't be back on here. It's all Y'alls. Honestly if I offended anyone, no pun intended. Things here get taken out of context. Later.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 23, 2011 20:33:44 GMT -5
For the record Moon, my post was misunderstood. Honestly. I have a God thread. I will stay on it.
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 23, 2011 20:37:16 GMT -5
femme, my comments weren't directed towards any one person.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 23, 2011 21:00:52 GMT -5
Honestly if I offended anyone, no pun intended. ------------------------ A pun is clever wordplay. There was no pun.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 23, 2011 21:06:34 GMT -5
Can you give more info? Energy source? I am curious about that It's kind of hard for me to explain. I believe at one time, there being a God energy force, it grew and exploded, creating the cosmos and sending spirits out into the universe. I believe we are the created children of this God energy force, thus part of God. It's this God energy force, my creator, that I worship. It's this God energy force that I hope to one day return to and unite with. Now that is interesting. Do you believe that God created the Universe? I think that is what you are saying right? God being a spirit or energy source?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 23, 2011 21:06:50 GMT -5
femme, my comments weren't directed towards any one person. Thanks Moon. Sorry lone, if I did offend You. I was trying to be humorous. It came off wrong. I don't knock anyone else's belief. I am just Passionate about mine. That's why I won't be debating this again.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 23, 2011 21:31:45 GMT -5
Now that is interesting. Do you believe that God created the Universe? I think that is what you are saying right? God being a spirit or energy source? Yes, but God also being the universe. I agree, I think He is all things to me as well. thanks for the info. Have a good nite!
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Post by moxie on Oct 23, 2011 21:39:15 GMT -5
There are no posters known by the names you used in the earlier, now deleted post here, moxie. Now, if you're thinking of another board, best to leave anything from that board there. If that board is no longer active, best leave anything from that board no longer active. We DO NOT want any of it here. Since you have no access to any means to know whether a poster here is the same poster as a poster on another board, just keep your assumptions to yourself and old news from other boards out of here.
"Blah, blah, blah...yeah...whatever." LMAO!! ;D
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 23, 2011 21:43:00 GMT -5
no moxie.. NOT "whatever". you seem hell bent on dragging the old shit back up over and over in an attempt to start trouble. i will not have it.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 23, 2011 21:44:52 GMT -5
Thanks Moon. Sorry lone, if I did offend You. I was trying to be humorous. It came off wrong. I don't knock anyone else's belief. I am just Passionate about mine. That's why I won't be debating this again. Apology accepted and sorry if I took it wrong. We're good. Thank You for accepting my apology.
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Post by moxie on Oct 23, 2011 21:50:22 GMT -5
"i will not have it." Okay then, so ban me for a THIRD time...I don't care...I have LOTS of pre-holiday cleaning to do. You EE Mods get paid WAY TOO MUCH...I think it is starting to go to your heads. LOL I just say what PLENTY of others here are THINKING too! Can we say "GESTAPO??" LMAO!! ;D
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 23, 2011 21:53:31 GMT -5
fine.. i am more than happy to do that.
enjoy your other boards because you won't be back on this one.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 23, 2011 22:37:10 GMT -5
Tell ya what, Ms Moxie. I see moonbeam has taken care of your shiny pink arse before I got back here. That's a Very Good Thing. It looks like the ban is permanent. That's an Even Better Thing. Take your shyte-stirring self elsewhere. Your type is neither needed, nor wanted here. These folks got along beautifully before you came and many have developed good friendships. Getting your toosh outa here ensures there will be more friendships developed without you around to stir that cauldron. Don't let the cyber door hit you in the arse, sweet cheeks.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 24, 2011 2:18:30 GMT -5
This is a discussion about God, not liberalism or Obama. I refuse to be baited into an off-topic debate despite you leaving little land mines (like your quip about Obama) for people to step on all over this thread.
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Post by diamonds on Oct 24, 2011 4:00:51 GMT -5
As if you brought anything worthwhile to this thread. Out of context my dear, why don't you post what you wrote, to bait me. I believe I did have worthwhile contributions, in spite of what you believe.
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Post by jemima on Oct 24, 2011 4:55:00 GMT -5
I don't know about this thread being the existence for God or not but it does bring quite a few cat fights in.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:05:10 GMT -5
So far so good, there was indeed an energy force called a singularity that inflated some 13.7 billion years ago and it was indeed the first cause of the universe.
Oh dear, its all going horribly wrong, our spirit is in effect our consciousness and it only evolved in humans some 100,000 years ago. There are trillions of planets in the universe and millions of species without consciousness, you seem to be putting one species on one planet in one solar system in one galaxy at the centre of the universe, this is silly.
Not bad, every effect was first caused by the singularity, we are the sum of all these antecedent causes, I would not use the word created it conveys intentionality and there is no evidence of a predetermined universe. The universe and all matter within it were a part of the singularity, if you wish to call matter " children " then that is ok, if not a little poetic and romantic. We are matter and one day when the universe ends all matter will be condensed back into a singularity...maybe.
I am not sure if worshiping a physical reaction makes any sense, but each to their own.
I would just like to highlight one universal common denominator in all creation myths, they all include immortality, there is a reason for this death denial.
Most humans fear dying and insignificance above all else, I do not.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:11:13 GMT -5
Yep, it is an unnecessary distraction, personal insults are not evidence of anything except bad manners.
I have lived a very sheltered life and am shocked by the vitriol and venom.
However I must soldier on with my mission to convert all to atheism.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:15:06 GMT -5
Farewell Moxie, you could have been a contender...
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:25:13 GMT -5
Hello Lonewolf,
The problem with God being the universe is a tricky one, if God is everything then God's consciousness is everything. If this is the case then there is nothing for God to be conscious of, because it is everything.
In other words, God may exist but it is not conscious of your existence or anything else.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:32:26 GMT -5
Did your God not exist when you were single and lonely ?
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:41:10 GMT -5
One must prove or at least first demonstrate that ones particular god exists before one starts to claim it is the one and only true god.
Good luck with this enterprise, you are an atheist to all other gods, I just go one further.
There is no evidence nor logic that makes any religious claim more valid than another, they are all unsupported hypotheses.
Peace.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:46:05 GMT -5
Christianity claims one god but has approximately 35,000 versions of Jesus as a god ?
Jesus was a practicing Jewish monotheist, he would not be amused by Christianity.
The religion of Jesus became religions about Jesus.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 5:57:38 GMT -5
The founding fathers were so religious and Christian they wrote a constitution excluding both from government.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 6:06:33 GMT -5
Diamonds,
You come out with some truly remarkable statements, Christians and other religious cults are the antithesis of open minded, it is not called blind faith for nothing.
An open mind does not believe a book is true because it says it is true.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 24, 2011 6:42:12 GMT -5
Uhm ... no. All you've done so far is declare with no evidence that your God is the only true God, insult every other religion, then criticize the atheist point of view without offering even the smallest rebuttal. If you want to really participate, then that's great, but if you're just going to snipe, then don't whine if you get it handed right back to you.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 7:41:15 GMT -5
It is important in any discussion to demonstrate the basis of ones belief using logic or evidence, simply saying one knows ones god is unique and true is meaningless.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but opinions are not knowledge.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 24, 2011 7:44:49 GMT -5
Christianity claims one god but has approximately 35,000 versions of Jesus as a god ? Jesus was a practicing Jewish monotheist, he would not be amused by Christianity. The religion of Jesus became religions about Jesus. I disagree, He would not be amuzed by some "Christians" but Christanity, he would be pleased. Hi Tosh. how are you?
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 24, 2011 7:47:04 GMT -5
Uhm ... no. All you've done so far is declare with no evidence that your God is the only true God, insult every other religion, then criticize the atheist point of view without offering even the smallest rebuttal. If you want to really participate, then that's great, but if you're just going to snipe, then don't whine if you get it handed right back to you. And that is sad. We should all at least listen to others points of view, no matter ours or our belief. IMO. I just skipped over the cat fight and ignored it all. I have no use for old MSN garbage as well.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 24, 2011 8:55:48 GMT -5
Hi Texas, I am well thank you, it is not easy keeping this thread civilized, it seems to be a magnet for settling old scores but the mods are doing a good job.
I have never denied the value in the teachings of Jesus, his martyrdom to goodness and righteousness is still an excellent symbol of humanity at its best.
Peace.
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