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Post by kadee on Feb 20, 2011 7:46:35 GMT -5
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Mad Dawg Wiccan
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Feb 20, 2011 17:46:47 GMT -5
Too bad this study only included pesticides and not bacteria.
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Post by kadee on Feb 20, 2011 20:36:34 GMT -5
patstab, if you think putting porta potties in the fields has done any good....I hate to burst your bubble! I live out here where they grow lots of veggies in the fields...cabbage, greens, sweet corn, squash, melons, tomatoes, bell peppers, egg plant, strawberries and a few more. They have put the potties out there but when the workers are 1/2 mi. away from it without means to get there (transportation) they aren't going to run over to it! They also wouldn't want to loose the time it would take to get there & back from their production (picking). Most of the time they get paid by how much they picked. I really don't see any changes happening in that regard! But the farm owners have now satisfied the new laws/regulations by putting the potties out there!
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Feb 20, 2011 20:45:31 GMT -5
What is worse and causes e coli is when the growers are to cheap to furnish toilets and the workers go in the fields. Do you think they wash their hands afterward also?? Imagine maybe 50 workers, urinating and defecating inthe fields while working. Some countries allow human waste from sewage treatment plants to be used as fertilizer. Bad idea. Also, e coli is often carried in steer manure, a common "organic" fertilizer.
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Post by Apple on Feb 21, 2011 0:58:40 GMT -5
Piles of human waste were often seen on the small orchard I helped swamp in high school. It was disgusting, but k66 is right, they don't want to run to the bathroom because it takes time--they're paid by the bucket.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 21, 2011 11:27:11 GMT -5
I doubt that human defecation is a new problem to farming. I doubt that at any point in history field workers went elsewhere to go to the bathroom and then used an anti-bacterial soap and running water to scrub up before returning to the fields.
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Post by kadee on Feb 21, 2011 12:13:45 GMT -5
MOST, and I didn't say all, "organic" fertilizer is composted! MOST will get hot enough to destroy any germs from MOST diseases.
You're right thyme. It has been going on since the beginning of planted crops! I have not looked this up so I am not sure, but I believe there are several countries that use composted human excrements for fertilizers.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Feb 21, 2011 14:52:19 GMT -5
I really don't see workers pooping in the field as a major health risk to the public. To be so, the contaminant has to be wide spread across the crop. I do know of two instances where this has happened, but I don't remember what the crops were. One was produce from Mexico, where the fields had been fertilized with untreated human sewage. The other was here in the Central Valley, where heavy rain caused runoff from a nearby cattle farm to contaminate some crops.
My only point was I wish the study had included "dirty" foods you are more likely to get bacterial contamination from as well as pesticides.
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Post by kadee on Feb 23, 2011 9:47:59 GMT -5
mad...which is a GOOD reason to use a veggie wash to clean your veggies to get rid of as much as possible of either kind of contamination!
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