Michigan adjusts Government welfare

[Value Buy]

Mich. governor signs 48-month welfare limit
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FILE - In this April 27, 2011 file photo, Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder delivers an address at a United Way office in Detroit on changes he wants to see in education. On Tuesday, Sept. 6, 2011, Snyder signed legislation creating a four-year lifetime limit for people to receive cash welfare assistance in Michigan. The measure is expected to force 41,000 people off the welfare rolls on Oct. 1, when the next state fiscal year begins. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio, File)By KATHY BARKS HOFFMAN

updated 9/6/2011 10:59:46 PM ET 2011-09-07T02:59:46
Print Font: +-LANSING, Mich. — Gov. Rick Snyder on Tuesday signed into law a stricter, four-year lifetime limit on cash welfare benefits, prompting advocates for the poor to warn that tens of thousands of residents will find themselves without cash assistance on Oct. 1.

Michigan's first-year Republican chief executive said the state will offer exemptions to the limit for those with a disability who can't work, those who care for a disabled spouse or child and those who are 65 or older and don't qualify for Social Security benefits or receive very low benefits.

Some recipients who are the victims of domestic violence also may be temporarily exempted.

"We are returning cash assistance to its original intent as a transitional program to help families while they work toward self-sufficiency," Snyder said in a statement. He noted that the state still will help the poor by offering food stamps, health care coverage through Medicaid, child care and emergency services.

Then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat, signed a bill that created a four-year limit starting in 2007. But that law exempted many welfare recipients, including those whose caseworkers said they were making progress toward finding employment.


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[Value Buy]

Michigan which is broke has finally told their citizens the gravy train has left the station, and it is time to start taking care of yourself. Of course, four years, is sufficient time to still milk the system.

More articles are no longer linked with a url, and state they can not be copied or reproduced, but you are allowed to e-mail them.
Makes absolutely no sense to me. Sounds like mass media is now big brother, replacing the Government in many respects......
Anyway, the entire article is on MSN.COM, or you can go to their political page and find it there.

[cme1201]

Sept 7, 2011 8:16:17 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Michigan which is broke has finally told their citizens the gravy train has left the station, and it is time to start taking care of yourself. Of course, four years, is sufficient time to still milk the system.

More articles are no longer linked with a url, and state they can not be copied or reproduced, but you are allowed to e-mail them.
Makes absolutely no sense to me. Sounds like mass media is now big brother, replacing the Government in many respects......
Anyway, the entire article is on MSN.COM, or you can go to their political page and find it there.

Actually ValueBuy, they are just deciding that they are going to follow the rules applying to TANF 5 years or less in Lifetime assistance, more states need to actually follow the rules.

[Value Buy]

cme1201
What is TANF?
Not familiar with it.

[frep]

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) is is a federal assistance program.

[Tennesseer]

Value Buy-I don't know why you couldn't/wouldn't post the link you twice referenced so here it is:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44416871/ns/politics/?gt1=43001

[swamp]

Interesting. Michigan's unemployment rate is 11%. Not that I think welfare is a valid career choice, but it's going to be pretty difficult to employ these people.

[Value Buy]

Sept 7, 2011 8:35:00 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Value Buy-I don't know why you couldn't/wouldn't post the link you twice referenced so here it is:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44416871/ns/politics/?gt1=43001

Tennesseer,
Thanks
I went back to the article and still do not see any link or url.
Calll me computer illiterate, but I do not see it.

Anyway, pretty eye opening numbers.
It is impossible to provide the kind of services that are being given out, without a massive increase in personal and business income taxes.

[mmhmm]

The url for your article will be found on your command bar, Value Buy. It should be at the top of your page somewhere, and will show something like "http <wherever your article is>.com, etc. You can copy it from there by highlighting it, hitting Ctrl and c (at the same time), then paste it here by hitting Ctrl and v. You can check to see if your command bar is active by looking under View, Toolbars. If it's checked, it's active. If it's not, just click on it.

[mmhmm]

I've got no objection to getting the "lifers" off the government dole. However, with the unemployment rate what it is in Michigan, they'll need to remember those folks and find some manner of dealing with that problem. Those aren't slackers, necessarily. You can't work if you can't find a job.

[pappyjohn99]

They can always join Jimmy Hoffa's Army. Good union Bennies.

[mmhmm]

While I know where you're coming from, pappy, there's nothing to joke about for people who are unemplyed and unable to find a job no matter how hard they try. Many are trying. There just aren't enough jobs. That needs to be rectified, or some other method developed to help these people be productive and support their families. That's really all they want. They shouldn't be lumped in, automatically, with those who'd rather sit on their backsides and collect money for doing nothing.

[luckyme]

Yeah, that's a big problem. It's one thing to expect people to work, but when the unemployment is so high, and doesn't look like it's going to ease up anytime soon, what is accomplished?

[pappyjohn99]

Of course you are right mmhmm. Most people couldn't get out of the house they are in and relocate if there were jobs somewhere else. But this is also a reasonable law that needs to be enforced. Tough times are upon us all. We need to pull together. The current administration squandered away nearly a trillion dollars in the last stimulus propping up his union buds. Public workers got another year on the gravy train and people the may have benefited were left in the lurch. Our president laughed with his buddies at the idea that shovel ready projects aren't so shovel ready. Washington has completely lost it's mind. Even we people that are working are stretched thin. I am curious to see what rabbit our great leader is gonna pull out of his hat on Thursday but I don't have a lot of hope.

[mmhmm]

I think most of us posting agree something must be done about the slackers, pappy. I just hate to see the baby thrown out with the bathwater. Those who are truly looking for work and have been unable to find jobs to support their families must be taken into consideration. These are a part of our badly broken working poor. They'd work if they could find something at which to work!

I'd read the president is going to look to providing programs to put people to work taking care of the very real problems with our infrastructure. This is something that's been overlooked for quite some time now, and things are literally falling apart. The problem with the idea of using those who can work, and need work, to help get us back on track in that regard is ... it requires money to get started. Brings to mind folks like Warren Buffet. Instead of pouring money into BofA, why not pour that money into an account to get these people started bringing our roads, bridges, dams, nuclear plants, and other infrastructure disaster areas back into good condition?

[floridayankee]

Sept 7, 2011 10:13:48 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

While I know where you're coming from, pappy, there's nothing to joke about for people who are unemplyed and unable to find a job no matter how hard they try. Many are trying. There just aren't enough jobs. That needs to be rectified, or some other method developed to help these people be productive and support their families. That's really all they want. They shouldn't be lumped in, automatically, with those who'd rather sit on their backsides and collect money for doing nothing.

There are jobs, but most people would rather collect unemployment than flip a burger or actually...sweat. My own DB is unemployed. He flat out rejected an opening we had in our warehouse that we just filled. Sure it's not a dream job, but it's a job.

He's already a couple months behind on his credit cards and all moved back in with Mom and Dad. Of course they had to move their bedroom set into storage to make way for his BR set that he is sure to tell everyone he paid over $5 grand for...with the credit card of course....after he quit his job to move to a new town with his next ex.

Yet he still bitches about being a victim and blames his money woes on the bad economy and lack of jobs.

[pappyjohn99]

Infrastructure repairs are what we were promised in the last stimulus mmhmm. What we got was a big payout to keep overpaid people in the departments of education, and state bureaucracies instead. There is the old saw about "fool me once". It's mighty hard to trust anyone in Washington.

[handyman2]

I agree with the spirit of the law but with the state of the economy in Michigan I would have waited and waited and waited till Obama's job program put most back to work. Like about 2060.

[zibazinski]

Michigan's economy has been in the toilet for a lot longer than 4 years. These people had plenty of chances to move into training for jobs that are wanted and still needed but chose not to. I have zero sympathy because just like the Katrina "victims" they figured the gubm't tit would never end. "Someone" would save them from themselves and they could continue to sit on their butts and collect. Game over.