Calling kitchen gurus.

[naggie72]

Have approx 11 feet to put in a fridge, wall oven and a pantry (the pantry will be a cabinet) How would you all lay this wall out.

[efco]

Is it a galley kitchen?

[naggie72]

No, but that is the only wall that I am having a problem with. Right now it has a reach in pantry that is way too wide for me, then the fridge then a counter. I want to demo the pantry and use a tall cabinet for the pantry, keep the fridge on that wall and add a wall oven. There will still be room for a counter too.

[The J]

Can the wall oven go near the stove? Can you describe the entire kitchen as it stands now?

[efco]

Is it possible for you to sketch up a layout of your kitchen with dimensions? if you could do that and email it to me, I will be happy to make several designs for you.

[NancysSummerSip]

The classic kitchen layout is a triangular work space, with the big appliances you use the most (sink, stove/oven and fridge) at equal points from the center. The idea is that you have a minimal walk or reach to any of them.

Where you place the pantry depends on what you are storing in it, and what it's constructed from. I would not have a wood pantry near the range, unless there's a lot of insulation around the range. Plus the heat generated from the range will have an effect on whatever food is stored in the pantry.

Naggie, when you say 11 feet, do you mean an 11-foot straight wall, and everything has to be lined up on one wall, or is there space to move things around?

[NancysSummerSip]

OK, sorry for my question....you answered it.

I'd say let EFCO take a look at your layout, since he's an architectural guru-type of guy.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at other practical issues, like where the electrical outlets are (so I don't have to install new ones) and where I can vent the range hood (if you are planning to do that to the outside).

[naggie72]

Great, thanks all. Will try to recreate and get the layout right now to you all.

[Deleted]

They have some great cabinet/pantry systems. Have you checked into the ones that pull out (so you don't have to stand on your head) and swivel, etc? They're pretty sweet. I'll look to see if I can't find a link...

[Deleted]

This is along the lines of what I was talking about

www.slideoutshelvesllc.com/pantry-cabinet.html

But to answer your original question, can you make a mock-up of how you would do it and try walking around, pretending you're working in the kitchen? As mentioned before, the triangle is always a good rule of thumb, and check for clearance of doors - make sure that you don't have the fridge doors banging into the oven, etc.

[NoNamePerson]

Have approx 11 feet to put in a fridge

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Whose foot is missing? Ok, I am feeling silly today but that was the first thing that popped into my scrambled brain

[naggie72]

That is what I am trying to do but I don't know if it will work. I will have to have the fridge, wall oven and pantry all on one wall. I am concerned with the placement of the wall oven so it doesn't affect either the fridge or pantry or the fridge affecting the pantry but I suppose the fridge is insulated so won't affect dry goods in the pantry.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

I'd rather have the fridge next to the pantry than the oven, there'd be less residual heat from the fridge than the oven (but the fridge will still produce some heat).

But if you're looking at putting in a wall oven, you may want to consider putting in 2 ovens. I'd kill for a second oven......

Well, almost!

[olderburgher]

Too little info. We need a sketch and to see where other items are in the kitchen. A role-out pantry is a good idea but there are other potential options to complement it based on the layout and what can be done with it. If you own the place consider moving or removing a wall (landlords might not care for this idea.) Consider an island with cabinets above. When we removed a wall and put in cabinets above an island we put glass doors on both sides of the cabinets to allow light through and to facilitate access when one side of the kitchen was crowded. Consider a lazy-susan for pots, etc. a corner but give us the diagram first.

[naggie72]

Someone tell me how to scan something so I can show you all.

[The J]

Do you have a scanner?

[naggie72]

haah a J,
Yes.

[Malarky]

Without seeing it, I would say:

wall oven-------counter------fridge/pantry. Depending on which way your fridge opens, it would be oriented the other way.
That way when you take something out of the oven or the fridge you have a place to set it down.
Cabinets come in 3" increments when you're trying to figure out how much space that will take. Do you have the sizes for your wall oven and fridge?

[teen persuasion]

As an extension to malarky's plan, you might want a bit of counter on both sides of the oven, for easier access. Any appliance is easier to get at if there is room for door swing, a place for you to stand, etc.

Of course, we are assuming your 11 ft of wall ends on other walls, not turning the corner on more counters.