Is Obama Intelligent??

[privateinvestor]

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest. But that night it was flying straight into a huge thunderstorm. Turbulence was extreme, and airspeed indicators may not have been functioning properly. Worse, the pilots were incompetent. As the plane threatened to stall they panicked by pointing the nose up, losing speed when they ought to have done the opposite. It was all over in minutes.

Was this the fate of Flight 447, the Air France jet that plunged mysteriously into the Atlantic a couple of years ago? Could be. What I'm talking about here is the Obama presidency.

When it comes to piloting, Barack Obama seems to think he's the political equivalent of Charles Lindbergh, Chuck Yeager and—in a "Fly Me to the Moon" sort of way—Nat King Cole rolled into one. "I think I'm a better speech writer than my speech writers," he reportedly told an aide in 2008. "I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I'll tell you right now that I'm . . . a better political director than my political director."

To read more of this article:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html

[privateinvestor]

We've long been aware that the One is not quite the superior intellect he was sold as. Obama, we were told, was the rare possessor of a mind with the profundity of a Socrates, the breadth of a Goethe, and the penetration of a Newton. An intellect unrivaled on the current American political scene, and possibly without equal in this country's politics since the beginning.

To read more:

www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/how_stupid_is_obama.html

[billisonboard]

Multiple Intelligences

Howard Gardner of Harvard has identified seven distinct intelligences. This theory has emerged from recent cognitive research and "documents the extent to which students possess different kinds of minds and therefore learn, remember, perform, and understand in different ways," according to Gardner (1991). According to this theory, "we are all able to know the world through language, logical-mathematical analysis, spatial representation, musical thinking, the use of the body to solve problems or to make things, an understanding of other individuals, and an understanding of ourselves. Where individuals differ is in the strength of these intelligences - the so-called profile of intelligences -and in the ways in which such intelligences are invoked and combined to carry out different tasks, solve diverse problems, and progress in various domains."
www.tecweb.org/styles/gardner.html

Great work on the issue of Intelligences.

[mmhmm]

P.I., please don't post the entirety of long articles like the one above. Chose a salient paragraph, or paraphrase, then link to the article. That way, those who wish to learn more can do so and those who aren't interested don't have to scroll through a long passage. Thanks.


mmhmm, P&M Moderator

[handyman2]

I totally agree with Gardners assessment. I took college classes under an astro-physicist who was brilliant in his field but could not safely drive a car. His wife drove him to school and back.
However with Obama I don't think it is a matter of intellegence but a matter of a super ego out of control.

[Deleted]

I think Obama is intelligent. That's a far cry from being smarter than everyone else though. Also - being intelligent can be crippling when it comes to making decisions. If you can see a ton of alternatives and how they can all lead down different roads it can be really hard to commit to a particular action.

[zibazinski]

He's clever and that is more important than being intelligent. Scarier as well.

[privateinvestor]

I believe Obama is highly intelligent and this criticism of his intellect may have some credulity but being smart and being a strong leader are not always two attributes that I would ascribe to Obama IMHO

[henryclay]

Is Obama Intelligent??

Wrong question P.I. Yes he is probably "intelligent". The problem with Obama is probably more a question of whether or not he knows anything worthwhile.

[ugonow]

The thread woul be a lot more interesting if the question was is Obama stupid?

[jkapp]

The problem with Obama is his ego always seems to get in the way of his intelligence.

Which is a common problem with certain personalities...the type that go into law fields, medical fields, and science fields. I'm not sure what causes these types of jobs to attract such large egos, or maybe its the higher intelligence that leads to high egos??

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest.

Obama flew one? Obama made one? Oh, one of those misleading attention grabbers.

More proof that conservatives are craptacular with analogies. Just add histrionics. And Aaaahhhh!!!1! OBAMMAAAH IS LEADING US OVER THE CLIFF/ INTO A NOSEDIVE INTO THE SEA!!!! You know, we've been ready to do such a thing since the beginning of 2009, so don't mind my at another "the world will end next year ... next year ... next year" sort of deal.

Obama, we were told...

Mostly by other other conservatives in the same vein. That got old in 2009 (just like we're ready to nosedive any second got old). See also: Obama supposedly being the messiah, or that's what "we've been told" (by other conservatives, of course). How's life in the echo chamber ... ber ... ber?

What else do you expect from American Thinker, a collection of Midwestern Int-e-lekt-u-al opinion piece blogs that rarely, if ever substantiate any of their claims and are a little above chain e-mails in their credibility? If they're self declaring their victories, they're contradicting themselves. Wow, just like here.

However with Obama I don't think it is a matter of intellegence but a matter of a super ego out of control.

Except when he compromises all the time. Yep, we're in Conservativia, where it's better to have dozens of attacks that contradict each other and reality than fewer ones that don't. Sometimes it is quality over quantity, folks.

[jkapp]

Aug 9, 2011 12:24:04 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest.

Obama flew one? Obama made one? Oh, one of those misleading attention grabbers.

More proof that conservatives are craptacular with analogies. Just add histrionics. And Aaaahhhh!!!1! OBAMMAAAH IS LEADING US OVER THE CLIFF/ INTO A NOSEDIVE INTO THE SEA!!!! You know, we've been ready to do such a thing since the beginning of 2009, so don't mind my at another "the world will end next year ... next year ... next year" sort of deal.



Mostly by other other conservatives in the same vein. That got old in 2009 (just like we're ready to nosedive any second got old). See also: Obama supposedly being the messiah, or that's what "we've been told" (by other conservatives, of course). How's life in the echo chamber ... ber ... ber?

What else do you expect from American Thinker, a collection of Midwestern Int-e-lekt-u-al opinion piece blogs that rarely, if ever substantiate any of their claims and are a little above chain e-mails in their credibility? If they're self declaring their victories, they're contradicting themselves. Wow, just like here.

However with Obama I don't think it is a matter of intellegence but a matter of a super ego out of control.

Except when he compromises all the time. Yep, we're in Conservativia, where it's better to have dozens of attacks that contradict each other and reality than fewer ones that don't. Sometimes it is quality over quantity, folks.

Right Mkitty, because you're all about quality...

Unfortunately for you, though, constantly spouting "just a few" non-factual anti-conservative far-left talking points over and over again does not make them any more true

[privateinvestor]

Aug 9, 2011 11:45:57 GMT -5 ugonow said:

The thread woul be a lot more interesting if the question was is Obama stupid?

I thought about that as the subject for this OP but the article I quoted doesn't really ask that question but rather asks if he is intelligent??

I would also add that I don't think Obama is stupid but would say he is in a job as our president that he was totally unprepared or equipped for unless he can prove his critics wrong in the next 18 months but that is almost impossible IMHO

Last week was a bad one for Obama and a few more like that and he is in big trouble with the voters who are now beginning to question his leadership judging by the polls and blogs on this subject..

[ameiko]

Aug 9, 2011 12:24:04 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest.

Obama flew one? Obama made one? Oh, one of those misleading attention grabbers.

More proof that conservatives are craptacular with analogies. Just add histrionics. And Aaaahhhh!!!1! OBAMMAAAH IS LEADING US OVER THE CLIFF/ INTO A NOSEDIVE INTO THE SEA!!!! You know, we've been ready to do such a thing since the beginning of 2009, so don't mind my at another "the world will end next year ... next year ... next year" sort of deal.


quote]

It's called an analogy.

[ameiko]

Obama is intelligent.... at least moreso than his many supporters here.

[Don Perignon]

Aug 9, 2011 22:08:37 GMT -5 ameiko said:

Aug 9, 2011 12:24:04 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

The aircraft was large, modern and considered among the world's safest.

It's called an analogy.

But it's an invalid analogy... as was mentioned, the "nosedive" occurred just previous to the last presidential election.
That's how Obama got elected.
Obama's Administration had to level off the plane, which was done, then they had to stabilize it while assessing which critical systems were malfunctioning. It's been touch-and-go "crises level management" since before Obama got into the Oval Office.
The folks who put us into the nosedive keep trying to change the timelines to divert the responsibility, and I think it contemptible.

[Politically_Incorrect12]

I think the President is intelligent, but as other posters have stated that doesn't mean he's a genius or smarter than everybody else.

[Value Buy]

Aug 9, 2011 23:06:08 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

I think the President is intelligent, but as other posterss have stated that doesn't mean he's a genius or smarter than everybody else.

Yes, he is intelligent.
He was a great Community organizer.
Unfortunately, he is in D.C and their are very many intelligent people in the Congress.
Ok, maybe only a couple.......
But the fact of the matter is there are many people there smarter than a community organizer, and they ain't drinkin the kool-aid.

[Value Buy]

On second thought, maybe politicians are just a little harder to organize than the common voter.
Especially any Democrat in D.C. and any Republican.

Yep, over his head.

[privateinvestor]

Obama's empty-podium presidency

On Monday, as markets plunged and America grappled with a historic credit downgrade, the president failed to offer leadership — and barely managed to even show up

posted on August 9, 2011, at 10:30 AM



theweek.com/bullpen/column/218101/obamas-empty-podium-presidency

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Except when he compromises all the time. Yep, we're in Conservativia, where it's better to have dozens of attacks that contradict each other and reality than fewer ones that don't. Sometimes it is quality over quantity, folks.

Right Mkitty, because you're all about quality...

Wow, a "I know you are, but what am I" sort of comeback; except for flat out insults, that's pretty much the bottom of the comeback totem. BTW, if anyone wants to see what I mean by Conservatives contradicting themselves, just click on my name on the left hand side, go down to my posts, and CTRL-F words like "contradict," "contradicts," "contradicting," etc. Or just wait a little while, I'm sure another Conservative contradiction is on its way.

Unfortunately for you, though, constantly spouting "just a few" non-factual anti-conservative far-left talking points over and over again does not make them any more true

And unfortunately for, you spouting anything does not make it any more true either. I love how you try to counter my supposed "self declared" arguments with your own "self declared" argument. I suggest next time, spend less time putting in smilie emoticons and use that time to actually think. For me, it only took me a couple of seconds to read and figure out how hypocritical and self defeating your argument was.

And if you conservatives want to have me post a lot less, stop making such laughably stupid arguments. Hey, and here's another laughably stupid argument that is only two posts away!

[quoting me]
Obama flew one? Obama made one? Oh, one of those misleading attention grabbers.

More proof that conservatives are craptacular with analogies. [/i][/color]Just add histrionics. And Aaaahhhh!!!1! OBAMMAAAH IS LEADING US OVER THE CLIFF/ INTO A NOSEDIVE INTO THE SEA!!!! You know, we've been ready to do such a thing since the beginning of 2009, so don't mind my at another "the world will end next year ... next year ... next year" sort of deal.

And what's the response?

It's called an analogy.

Say good night, Rosie.

[privateinvestor]

Obama wants frustrated voters to press Congress
By ERICA WERNER, AP
1 hour ago


WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says people are frustrated by the partisanship that has gridlocked Washington and he wants them to tell lawmakers they must compromise for the sake of the country.

The president used his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday to try to position himself on the side of the public and against a Congress with abysmal approval ratings after the bitter fight over increasing the nation's borrowing limit.

Obama's approval ratings aren't so good either. But the president clearly sees a need to direct the public's anger toward Congress or risk being the target himself as the 2012 campaign revs up.

"You've got a right to be frustrated," the president said. "I am. Because you deserve better. I don't think it's too much for you to expect that the people you send to this town start delivering."

"Members of Congress are at home in their districts right now. And if you agree with me — whether you're a Democrat or a Republican or not much of a fan of either — let them know."

The president listed several initiatives he's pushing, including trade deals, improvements to the patent system and extension of a cut in the tax that workers pay to fund Social Security.

"These are all things we can do right now. So let's do them," said Obama, who will repeat his economic message during a three-day Midwestern bus tour beginning Monday.

Republicans used their weekly address to criticize Obama on the economy, particularly government regulations that Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., said burdened businesses and discouraged them from expanding and hiring.

"Clearly, the policies of this administration are not working," said Toomey, one of the lawmakers newly appointed to the congressional panel that's supposed to develop recommendations to cut the debt. "So, what went wrong? Well, a big part of the problem has been job-killing regulations."

Toomey said that America can still thrive, "but first, government has to get out of the way."

xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20110813/US.Obama/

[privateinvestor]

You've got a right to be frustrated," the president said. "I am. Because you deserve better. I don't think it's too much for you to expect that the people you send to this town start delivering."

I fully agree and starting with the leader of our government who just happens to be Barrack Obama and when will he start to deliver?? Obama is frustrated as would be any other weak and incompetent leader...when frustrated always blame somebody else for what went wrong...

[yclept]

Obama appears to be very intelligent, though sometimes it is probably a hindrance rather than an asset. The last President was clearly the stupidest in the country's history, and I would argue the average educational level (and probably I.Q. as well) of the citizenry has declined over the last two generations.

I get the sense that some of his perceived indecision (often interpreted as inability to lead) stems from "over-thinking" situations. He wastes time trying to find a fair and balanced solution. He often seems to make the mistake of acting as if he is dealing with rational, fair, counter-parties, which is not the case. One can assimilate all relevant information about a subject, weigh it properly, present the most logical course of action, and still have to watch idiots try to tear it to pieces. There are an awful lot of stupid people out there who are allowed to vote (witness the pee party) -- trying to compromise with them is a waste of time and effort.

So yes, Obama is highly intelligent. It seems the country is having a hard time adjusting to that after having been lulled to sleep by eight years of that dullard Bush.

Laura: "Come on George, you can do it; it's nuclear:
noo -- klee -- ar"

George: "noo-que-lar"

Laura: "No! There's no such word as 'nucular'
Try again George: noo -- klee -- ar; noo -- klee -- ar"

George: "noo-que-lar"

Laura: "No! You dumb SOB! Okay, George, that's your homework, yet again. Every time you go potty, you practice saying nuclear. When you go beddy-bye, you practice saying nuclear -- no more reading 'My Pet Goat' at night. I know that's a tough book having words as well as pictures, but save finishing it until after you're out of office and can enlist some fourth graders to help you with the big words. In the meanwhile, you really need to practice saying 'nuclear'. "

[privateinvestor]

Aug 13, 2011 10:14:08 GMT -5 @yclept said:

Obama appears to be very intelligent, though sometimes it is probably a hindrance rather than an asset. The last President was clearly the stupidest in the country's history, and I would argue the average educational level (and probably I.Q. as well) of the citizenry has declined over the last two generations.

I get the sense that some of his perceived indecision (often interpreted as inability to lead) stems from "over-thinking" situations. He wastes time trying to find a fair and balanced solution. He often seems to make the mistake of acting as if he is dealing with rational, fair, counter-parties, which is not the case. One can assimilate all relevant information about a subject, weigh it properly, present the most logical course of action, and still have to watch idiots try to tear it to pieces. There are an awful lot of stupid people out there who are allowed to vote (witness the pee party) -- trying to compromise with them is a waste of time and effort.

So yes, Obama is highly intelligent. It seems the country is having a hard time adjusting to that after having been lulled to sleep by eight years of that dullard Bush.

Laura: "Come on George, you can do it; it's nuclear:
noo -- klee -- ar"

George: "noo-que-lar"

Laura: "No! There's no such word as 'nucular'
Try again George: noo -- klee -- ar; noo -- klee -- ar"

George: "noo-que-lar"

Laura: "No! You dumb SOB! Okay, George, that's your homework, yet again. Every time you go potty, you practice saying nuclear. When you go beddy-bye, you practice saying nuclear -- no more reading 'My Pet Goat' at night. I know that's a tough book having words as well as pictures, but save finishing it until after you're out of office and can enlist some fourth graders to help you with the big words. In the meanwhile, you really need to practice saying 'nuclear'. "

yclept this thread and discussion is about President Barack Obama's intelligence and NOT President George W. Bush if you want to lambast him again, pls start a separate thread.

Thanx,

[bubblyandblue]

Some might say ittelagence is relative. The coparison was great.. keep it up yclept. Sp is gratis

"yclept this thread and discussion is about President Barack Obama's intelligence and NOT President George W. Bush if you want to lambast him again, pls start a separate thread.

Thanx,"

[privateinvestor]

Aug 13, 2011 10:42:27 GMT -5 @bubblyandblue said:

Some might say ittelagence is relative. The coparison was great.. keep it up yclept. Sp is gratis

"yclept this thread and discussion is about President Barack Obama's intelligence and NOT President George W. Bush if you want to lambast him again, pls start a separate thread.

Thanx,"

Who did you say was brainwashed bubblyandblue Or how about Pot meet Kettle...

pi- you are someone that "we "used to refer to as 'ate up', which is someone that can not see past what they have been brainwashed to see.


Btw who is "We"....

But back to the subject of this thread..

I wonder if Obama is indeed intelligent enough to cancel his vacation next week to Martha's Vineyard or continue to work on fixing the debt crisis.???Both Wall St and Main St would love to know the answer to that question along with the Repubs in Iowa who are lambasting him for being AWOL again....especially Michele Bachman and Newtie

[bubblyandblue]

If Newtie and Bachman want to play the vacation game to somehow politicaly shove Obama (who they cleary wish to overthrow by any means possible, irregardless of the consequences to the nation) well that's just fine. It's sort of lame - he is not calling any one back from the field because thats what he should do... even though it gives these folks in the opposition time to run for office or potificate their positions while not in congressional meetings.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

Kirk: [hailing Khan] This is Admiral Kirk. We tried it once your way, Khan, are you game for a rematch? Khan, I'm laughing at the "superior intellect."

Khan: Full impulse power!

Joachim: No, sir! You have Genesis! You can have whatever...

Khan: [grabs Joachim in anger] FULL POWER!